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RFK Jr for HHS

I'm still waiting on a lib to explain to me why children need 3 doses of the hepatitis b vaccine before they're a year old (or why an infant might contract hepatitis b at all..). They won't even accept a conversation that the risks may far exceed the rewards in these cases. Feet dug in.

here’s the thing, i’m not a doctor or scientist so why would i go around trying to act like i know the answer to this.

there are too many things going on in life that are more pressing than me learning the science behind every vaccine so yeah i listen to scientists and experts. if that makes me a sheep then so be it but i would rather rely on experts for some things than worry about researching every mundane aspect of life
 
Except that person is highly qualified....

After graduating from Harvard College and Tulane University School of Medicine, ADM Levine completed her training in Pediatrics and Adolescent Medicine at the Mt. Sinai Medical Center in New York City. As a physician, she focused on the intersection between mental and physical health, treating children, adolescents, and young adults. ADM Levine was a Professor of Pediatrics and Psychiatry at the Penn State College of Medicine. Her previous posts included: Vice-Chair for Clinical Affairs for the Department of Pediatrics, and Chief of the Division of Adolescent Medicine and Eating Disorders at the Penn State Hershey Medical Center.
Thousands graduate from med school and practice every year, that doesn't make them remotely qualified to lead HHS as this person clearly wasn't. Had he stayed a man, he'd have had 0.0% chance if getting the job. Not to mention obese and sickly people have no business leading the nation in the area of "health".
 
Everyone on here slandering RFK probably got at least 1 covid "vaccine" & thinks that the government has their best interest in mind when making decisions. Lol ****ing mad lunatics
First of all, myocarditis after vaccination for the most part appears to be transient, and these patients recover. In comparison, getting COVID could lead to more severe, more prolonged myocarditis. Secondly, there are ways to reduce the risk for myocarditis, like spacing apart the first and second dose. And now that we have seen enough of these cases, doctors are learning how to treat these events when they do occur. And it’s also important to emphasize that instances of myocarditis have not been seen after the booster doses. So it’s mostly confined to the second dose of the primary series, and we shouldn’t be expecting these things to occur for future booster doses. And if the COVID boosters become like an annual flu vaccine, we wouldn’t expect myocarditis to occur because they are spaced so far apart. -YALE SCHOOL OF MEDICINE.

The risks of myocarditis have been shown to be worse post covid infection that from the vaccine. The infection also opens up damage to other organs.
 
You forget the best part. Supposed health nut has been using steroids for decades. Granted it might be in a low dosage under Dr. supervision. It’s still something that is in no way healthy for your body.
i think that was generally covered under wack job.

That said, i agree with you completely re; roids. But the history of roids is really kind of interesting - in their earlier days, people tried them for everything, and they seemed to 'work' for a lot of things and were viewed as a sort of miracle drug. i just use them when i get p ivy.
 
Thousands graduate from med school and practice every year, that doesn't make them remotely qualified to lead HHS as this person clearly wasn't. Had he stayed a man, he'd have had 0.0% chance if getting the job. Not to mention obese and sickly people have no business leading the nation in the area of "health".
big difference between the bolded and having a doctor, that went to medical school and "knows things" in charge of HHS.
We've gotten so stupid in this country that that average moron thinks they know more than the expert. Just because this loon is a contrarian doesn't mean he's qualified.
 
here’s the thing, i’m not a doctor or scientist so why would i go around trying to act like i know the answer to this.

there are too many things going on in life that are more pressing than me learning the science behind every vaccine so yeah i listen to scientists and experts. if that makes me a sheep then so be it but i would rather rely on experts for some things than worry about researching every mundane aspect of life
You're at least getting closer to realizing a huge part of the problem... how do you remove the multi trillion dollar influence pharma has on all of this?
Most Americans just want to know that the safety of what we're putting in our and our kid's bodies isn't influenced by those profiting off it. Bc right now that's not the case and it hasn't been for decades.
 
You're at least getting closer to realizing a huge part of the problem... how do you remove the multi trillion dollar influence pharma has on all of this?
Most Americans just want to know that the safety of what we're putting in our and our kid's bodies isn't influenced by those profiting off it. Bc right now that's not the case and it hasn't been for decades.
you should be far more worried about the effects of social media/phones on kids brains than ANYTHING else. If we were really concerned about kids, we would ban all smartphones until they are 18. Have a phone for calling/texting that's about it.
We've created such a nanny state for our kids that we are afraid to let them loose outside to explore and make mistakes. This is thousands of times worse for kids than vaccines.
 
You're at least getting closer to realizing a huge part of the problem... how do you remove the multi trillion dollar influence pharma has on all of this?
Most Americans just want to know that the safety of what we're putting in our and our kid's bodies isn't influenced by those profiting off it. Bc right now that's not the case and it hasn't been for decades.

go back in time and have the Supreme Court fix the citizens united decision. big pharma’s influence has dramatically increased thanks to this. you are delusional if you think republicans are going to fix big pharma because they take as much money from them as anyone.

the point is that the information politicians like Kennedy push versus what scientists at the hhs and the cdc put out is not equal. career civil servants and university researchers aren’t the ones lining their pockets no matter how much you want to vilify them.
 
go back in time and have the Supreme Court fix the citizens united decision. big pharma’s influence has dramatically increased thanks to this. you are delusional if you think republicans are going to fix big pharma because they take as much money from them as anyone.

the point is that the information politicians like Kennedy push versus what scientists at the hhs and the cdc put out is not equal. career civil servants and university researchers aren’t the ones lining their pockets no matter how much you want to vilify them.
wait, what?

Citizens United was in 2010.

The Medicare drug benefit occurred before 2010...they had plenty of influence then.
The IRA drug pricesetting regulations provisions (anathema to phrma for a good 40 years) were enacted after 2010...which might lead one to suggest that they have less influence now.
 
you should be far more worried about the effects of social media/phones on kids brains than ANYTHING else. If we were really concerned about kids, we would ban all smartphones until they are 18. Have a phone for calling/texting that's about it.
We've created such a nanny state for our kids that we are afraid to let them loose outside to explore and make mistakes. This is thousands of times worse for kids than vaccines.
These things don't need to be mutually exclusive.
I'm less concerned with vaccines as I am food and pesticides.
But pharma's influence on what we're told to accept as fact and settled science is huge.
 
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I don't have the time to go through five pages, but has someone brought up the beautiful part of all this?: He's pro-choice...

 
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wait, what?

Citizens United was in 2010.

The Medicare drug benefit occurred before 2010...they had plenty of influence then.
The IRA drug pricesetting regulations provisions (anathema to phrma for a good 40 years) were enacted after 2010...which might lead one to suggest that they have less influence now.

we are talking about aspects of the pharma industry. price setting is different than influencing the information sphere
 
we are talking about aspects of the pharma industry. price setting is different than influencing the information sphere
ok then...but phrma has been heavily engaged in dtc advertising since well before 2010...

Some other post 2010 things: authorization for biosimilars pathway (ie, competition)

Pricing setting is different. It is also everything to a pharma company.

Look, i don't deny pharma's influence. But it's hardly a function of citizens united.
 
here’s the thing, i’m not a doctor or scientist so why would i go around trying to act like i know the answer to this.

there are too many things going on in life that are more pressing than me learning the science behind every vaccine so yeah i listen to scientists and experts. if that makes me a sheep then so be it but i would rather rely on experts for some things than worry about researching every mundane aspect of life
So why should my child be mandated to take it to attend government school? Why are the pediatricians being enriched by pharma to the point that many won't accept child patients that aren't 100% compliant with the vax schedule big pharma wrote?
 
So what is the summation of ones that have been tested vs not? Where is that data?
So that's essentially what had been asked of the CDC, here is a summary of what was asked of them, and their response.
 
So that's essentially what had been asked of the CDC, here is a summary of what was asked of them, and their response.
That has to be the dumbest thing I've read in a long time. Are there studies showing they DON'T cause any other malady?
 
That has to be the dumbest thing I've read in a long time. Are there studies showing they DON'T cause any other malady?
When you have a web page that says "Vaccines do not Cause Autism", you would think you'd be able to back it up, right?
 
Everyone on here slandering RFK probably got at least 1 covid "vaccine" & thinks that the government has their best interest in mind when making decisions. Lol ****ing mad lunatics

I got 7 covid vaccines and am feeling great.

I also had no side effects except a slightly sore arm.
 
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I see this thread has been overrun by the anti vax nuts that know more than the actual experts.


Should have seen that coming.
Okay Mr expert, why does a one year old need 3 vaccine shots for hepatitis B?
 
Everyone on here slandering RFK probably got at least 1 covid "vaccine" & thinks that the government has their best interest in mind when making decisions. Lol ****ing mad lunatics
And as i posted earlier, Ethel made damn sure her little Bobby got HIS polio shots.
I grew up back in the day when polio was a real scare and the disease had real consequences. My Mom took us to a big Armory to stand in line for the jab.
Let him talk about our poor diets or the processed food we consume. Don’t let him talk to anyone about unvaccinated kids getting to sit next to my kid in school.
Food dyes - yes. Bags of processed potato chips in lunch every day? You bet.
Autism from a long approved vaccine? BS
 
I see this thread has been overrun by the anti vax nuts that know more than the actual experts.


Should have seen that coming.
The experts never entered the debate, remember? RFK wanted to debate 6 of them at the same time and none of them showed up. Hundreds of thousands of dollars were offered to have anyone enter a debate with RFK and the "actual experts" all pussied out. That should've told you something right there. But I guess it didn't.
 
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And as i posted earlier, Ethel made damn sure her little Bobby got HIS polio shots.
I grew up back in the day when polio was a real scare and the disease had real consequences. My Mom took us to a big Armory to stand in line for the jab.
Let him talk about our poor diets or the processed food we consume. Don’t let him talk to anyone about unvaccinated kids getting to sit next to my kid in school.
Food dyes - yes. Bags of processed potato chips in lunch every day? You bet.
Autism from a long approved vaccine? BS
There's a big difference between a polio vaccine and a hep b vaccination... being against one doesn't mean being against all. Kennedy doesn't want to get rid of vaccines in general, that's pure nonsense.

If your kid was vaccinated why would you care if he was sitting next to someone unvaccinated btw? Are you not confident in the injection you gave your child to protect them??
 
The experts never entered the debate, remember? RFK wanted to debate 6 of them at the same time and none of them showed up. Hundreds of thousands of dollars were offered to have anyone enter a debate with RFK and the "actual experts" all pussied out. That should've told you something right there. But I guess it didn't.
Remember when joe Rogan asked Peter hotep to come onto his podcast for as many hours as he wanted to debate the topic with kennedy? Hotep cowered out IMMEDIATELY.
 
Remember when joe Rogan asked Peter hotep to come onto his podcast for as many hours as he wanted to debate the topic with kennedy? Hotep cowered out IMMEDIATELY.
Yes, the "experts" never show. Despite the public health "emergency" of the growing number of parents opting out of the schedule, and the chance to slam dunk RFK's "misinformation" into oblivion. Gosh Scruddy, I wonder why that is.
 
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