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Even if all of this is true… you’re saying this 0.000036% chance of death is scarier than the death rate of unvaccinated people catching covid… which is undoubtedly higher than that.
I'm just bringing up VAERS to show that deaths due to the vaccines likely happens. Also, as I've said before I believe those #s are under-reported. It may not be great evidence, but does help to prove my point that "Many people aren't", from earlier in the discussion that people were questioning.
 
If you HAVE data on vaccines causing deaths at rates you claim, post it.
Here is Edward Dowd's group's data:

Children's Health Defense is an American 501(c)(3) nonprofit activist group mainly known for anti-vaccine disinformation and has been identified as one of the main sources of misinformation on vaccines
Yep, post another "misinformation" claim on the website, rather than the content being presented. The WHO said the "misinformation" is actually not misinformation, btw.
 
I never said that I believed it was completely useless, but I guess you do. I think the good majority of those numbers are legit, and I think there's a good chance the numbers are under-reported.

I thought I made it clear that the excess mortality data supported those ideas.

Truthfully, I might actually agree with you to an extent, but the awesome part about it is that I never claimed to be all that. All I try to do is keep it real and keep proving that people with your position on vaccine safety talk big but at the end of the day really have zero ground to stand on by posting things like this for example:
and this:
Damning information, with no good response. It happens in every thread. Thanks guys for helping prove my points!
The Siri/Plotkin interview was amazing. Poor, badgered Stanley was so flustered he couldn't even remember that there was no clinical safety study done on the MMR jab he helped develop.

Freaking clown show.
 
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The Siri/Plotkin interview was amazing
It's why we don't do "medical science" and "vaccine science" based on "interviews"
We do it in scientific papers and research papers.

Because lots of smart scientists aren't terribly great at interviews (and also give weak, but scientifically interesting presentations at conferences).
 
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It's why we don't do "medical science" and "vaccine science" based on "interviews"
We do it in scientific papers and research papers.

Because lots of smart scientists aren't terribly great at interviews (and also give weak, but scientifically interesting presentations at conferences).
Uhhh, they didn't 'do' the science before they marketed the product. Plotkin tried to stall and deflect but couldn't. Clown show.
 
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It's why we don't do "medical science" and "vaccine science" based on "interviews"
We do it in scientific papers and research papers.

Because lots of smart scientists aren't terribly great at interviews (and also give weak, but scientifically interesting presentations at conferences).
That's ridiculous. Scientists can answer questions just like anyone else.
 
No

It's how "science" works.
No

That's how Joe's debate world works in his own mind.

Here, the reality is the right questions got asked to the right person/people but they didn't get answered how Joe likes them answered.
 
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No

It's how "science" works.
This is shoddy, fraudulent, low powered, short duration, no inert placebo controlled science riddled with conflicts of interest.
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This is shoddy, fraudulent,
Says who?

The physicians who administer these vaccines recommend them for their own children.
Like 95% of them.

And most of those physicians vaccinate for ADDITIONAL diseases, on top of the recommended ones.

Because they don't listen to "Youtube debates" and "gotchas". They READ medical journals.
 
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The physicians who administer these vaccines recommend them for their own children.
Like 95% of them.
But as we've discussed, apparently MDs get a half day's worth of vaccines in all their schooling so how were they supposed to know the safety science sucked?
 
I thought you were still looking for a #. Maybe next time start with specifying which question you want answered. There are so many unanswered questions that I post that I just leave open, you're a little more on the pushy side.

The reports of young athletes with heart problems/blood clots/dropping dead absolutely picked up after the vaccine roll out. If you believe it happened as frequently before the vaccine rollout then post your data.
 
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I thought you were still looking for a #. Maybe next time start with specifying which question you want answered. There are so many unanswered questions that I post that I just leave open, you're a little more on the pushy side.

The reports of young athletes with heart problems/blood clots/dropping dead absolutely picked up after the vaccine roll out. If you believe it happened as frequently before the vaccine rollout then post your data.
Or just answer the questions as they are asked instead of deflecting. Which is what you are doing here. Still didn’t answer, and now you want others to do the work for you. You are beyond absurd. If you make a claim, prepare to do your own work. I understand the desire to avoid these types of questions.
 
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