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No, if you read again, that's where I started.
I've received all corroborating information from:
Studies ✅
Info from doctors ✅
Science ✅
Anyone who's been following along knows that I've posted all of these, many times from many sources.
Sorry, you said "99% of the people in the US believe in vaccines". Maybe you should define what you mean by "believe in" first.
And you base that on…feelings? A f’n chiropractor? And if you truly don’t care…stfu and don’t get vaccinated.
No, people need to be properly educated, and regulators are encroaching with mandates on unsafe products.
So which vaccines would you tell parents that they should forgo and let their kids get sick? List them.
This seems like a bit of a stretch.
I breathe air all day, it comes in contact with my skin, I even swallow some. But if you inject it into your vein you can die immediately.
Things can react very differently when swallowed vs injected.
Absolutely. Joe and Tarheel try to convince me ingestion and injection should be treated the same w/o any science to back it up. Then they claim science is on their side. Pretty incredible.
This is the survey that came to mind when you posted the 99% comment:
Poll: 83 percent of Americans believe vaccines are safe
This poll comes as a record number of measles cases are being reported across the U.S.,
www.politico.com
I suppose this is the answer to your question if you're looking for US data:
- 93% of children received the third dose of the DTaP vaccine,
- 92% received the third dose of polio-containing vaccine,
- 95% received the second dose of meningococcal virus vaccine,
- 92% received the third dose of hepatitis B vaccine,
- 91% received the third dose of Haemophilus influenzae type b vaccine and
- 64% of girls and 60% of boys had received their final dose of HPV vaccine by age 15 years.
New data suggest that childhood vaccination rates in the United States are relatively stable despite substantial declines in many regions.
Public and Scientists’ Views on Science and Society
The public and scientists express strikingly different views about science-related issues, yet both groups agree that K-12 STEM education in America falls behind other nations.
www.pewresearch.org
And you try to claim that the beyond minuscule amount that is injected would have a far more devastating effect than the far, far greater amount that would be absorbed into the blood stream from decade after decade of natural exposure. And you have nothing upon which to base it. Not. One. Thing.
Just like you had nothing with thimerosal. But that didn’t stop you from scaring people with lies.
And when you finally give up on aluminum…just like you gave up on thimerosal…you’ll latch onto something else. You’re full of shit. Completely.
Speaking of Stretch Armstrong…what happens if you inject 4.4 milligrams of air into your muscle?
That’s where vaccines go.
FTR, that’s 0.0044 grams. That’s the total amount of aluminum salts found in ALL the vaccines on the infant schedule over their first six months. For perspective, a fifth of a teaspoon of water has a mass of one gram.
0.0044 grams. In the muscle. Total. To find the amount in any single vaccine would require another zero.
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There has been a big discussion as to whether it is necessary to aspirate prior to injecting an IM shot due to the risk of injecting the vaccine IV. Sometimes the needle will hit a vein and if/when it does it may cause more severe adverse events.
It is possible that aluminum is equally bad when it hits the vein.
To aspirate or not to aspirate? Considerations for the COVID-19 vaccines
Syringe aspiration when vaccinating intramuscularly was not recommended before the pandemic due to the lack of conclusive evidence that it provides any benefit. However, in vivo evidence suggests that intravenous injection of mRNA vaccine can potentially ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Now you're just going down rabbit holes of completely different mechanisms of action.
Aluminum you eat DOES end up in your cells. Which isn't different from injection, or inhalation of dust with Al particles in how you get systemic exposure.
Go back and REREAD that Al adjuvants have been used for 100 years. Get back to me AFTER you've read that paper and all the cited publications of source material.
This paper is showing you that vaccines are SAFE, spud.There has been a big discussion as to whether it is necessary to aspirate prior to injecting an IM shot due to the risk of injecting the vaccine IV. Sometimes the needle will hit a vein and if/when it does it may cause more severe adverse events.
It is possible that aluminum is equally bad when it hits the vein.
To aspirate or not to aspirate? Considerations for the COVID-19 vaccines
Syringe aspiration when vaccinating intramuscularly was not recommended before the pandemic due to the lack of conclusive evidence that it provides any benefit. However, in vivo evidence suggests that intravenous injection of mRNA vaccine can potentially ...
Now we're on to "surveys"
Not "safety data".
Know what biases those surveys against safety? Idiots like YOU.
One more time: DOCTORS and PEDIATRICIANS vaccinate their OWN children.
I think you have me confused with someone else. I joined this party after people started talking about aluminum so I was always on aluminum. When I got here on day 1 I was flooded with a bunch of mmr/thimersal studies to prove vaccines didn't cause autism. At first I didn't know what to do with them. Now I do.
You're such a liar. I think they might still be hiring for the FB "fact" checking team.
Joe is the biggest liar of all, and he loves to scare people. Becuase COVID's not really scary unless you're overflowing your Hoveround at Walmart or 80 years old.
I posted a survey, then uptake data from UNICEF. The safety data is in other posts. Try to follow along.
Well yeah, I think people should know that when they vaccinate there is a risk of potential harm, and it's not 1 in a million. Checks and balances.
Not all doctors vaccinate their own children. And doctors have a half day of vaccines in their schooling.
This paper was not analyzing the safety of vaccines. It was analyzing whether you should aspirate prior to injecting the vaccine or not.
In general, hospitals in the usa had gone away from aspirating in recent years. This article shows that aspirating prior to injecting may decrease the risk of certain adverse events.
Joe and Tarheel have to get their positive vaccine post every now and then, that doesn't make sense. Their thinking is that way when passersby check in they think things are under control, when in reality they have no answers to the important damning information in the several posts prior.
Lol…the only “damning information” here is that asshats like you get to spread total bullshit.
You mean the intravenous injection of 0.000x grams of aluminum salts? That will be cleaned out of your system by healthy kidneys?There has been a big discussion as to whether it is necessary to aspirate prior to injecting an IM shot due to the risk of injecting the vaccine IV. Sometimes the needle will hit a vein and if/when it does it may cause more severe adverse events.
It is possible that aluminum is equally bad when it hits the vein.
To aspirate or not to aspirate? Considerations for the COVID-19 vaccines
Syringe aspiration when vaccinating intramuscularly was not recommended before the pandemic due to the lack of conclusive evidence that it provides any benefit. However, in vivo evidence suggests that intravenous injection of mRNA vaccine can potentially ...
What if they don't have healthy kidneys?
I am pro vaccine, but I am open to more study on the effects of vaccines in young kids. If something (like aluminum) is shown to cause adverse effects, then let's address it.
As far as the covid and influenza vaccines, I do not believe these are a big enough risk to young healthy people to warrant needing a vaccine. The research proves this. Unfortunately, it is easier and better financially (for big pharma) to recommend the vaccine for all instead of just high risk groups. The cdc website emphasizes the vaccine for high risk groups.
Very few physicians care enough to make a big deal about whether young healthy people take the flu vaccine or not. It doesn't have major side effects and therefore the risk is low. But low risk does not mean it is doing anything.
90% of all influenza deaths are 65+, 50-70% of influenza hospitalizations are 65+. The majority of young people who do die or require hospitalization have co-morbidities.
The influenza vaccine is only 20-60% effective on any given year.
Covid is on par with these influenza numbers from what I have seen in my own experience. Research will prove this in the future. A 35 yo with no comorbidities has a 0.02% risk of hospitalization from covid. A 40 yo has a 0.04% risk of hospitalization. Covid is very mild for most young healthy people and is very treatable unless you are a high risk individual.
You are welcome to have a different opinion as to whether young people should take the vaccine, but I personally believe 0.04% is an acceptable level of risk. Especially since the vaccine does not prevent covid. But lets not pretend that young healthy people are at significant risk of serious illness from covid, nor should we pretend that the vaccine is overly effective for young healthy people.
Look up the absolute risk reduction for the covid vaccine for young people. It is abysmally low.
I know. And that's not "safety data" nor "science".
That is LITERALLY in the disclosure handouts and paper you sign, acknowledging those risks, when you get a vaccine.
Weird take....because you rarely seem to post any actual medical journal articles about vaccine safety here.
It's mostly memes, Youtube videos and unqualified Quacks.
Who cares if it's safe when it doesn't do anything?
This highlights the problem I have with mass recommending vaccines. The risk varies dramatically for covid and influenza between differentage groups and should be addressed accordingly.
Influenza and covid vaccines are different than most vaccines because they don't stop you from getting sick. We should treat these like every other medical treatment and tell people their risk of hospitalization/death, then tell them how much the vaccine will reduce their risk. Leave it to the individual to make an informed decision on their own healthcare.
I belive people deserve to make these informed decisions rather than leave the decision in the hand of the governmental agencies and drug companies. As I said before, most doctors don't think for themselves when it comes to vaccines. They simply follow the guidelines.
Where are you getting information "it doesn't do anything"?
That is not what the data reflect.
I have zero problem with studying anything. I will push back against anti-vaxxers like nbh all f’n day. ANY study that demonstrates the safety of aluminum adjuvants in vaccines will be summarily dismissed as being paid for by “Big Pharma”. He spreads baseless bullshit and puts the health of children at risk all over the world. As for Covid, don’t get the vaccine.
