Rutgers "Insider" Claims Elite Guys Leaving Both PSU and Iowa

[nearfall2]

west2east “Cael not being loyal is something that I have never heard before. I know and have known many guys who wrestled at Penn st and no one says that. Heck even the Iowa fans who hate everything about Penn st don't mention loyalty”

I have called him disloyal several times. What he did to Bobby Douglas is one of the most disloyal things I’ve ever seen. For those who don’t know he told the AD that he was leaving if he didn’t get to be the head coach. AD didn’t want another Dan Gable situation so he pushed Bobby out and gave the job to that disloyal SOB who quit 3 years later. Bobby was not shy about letting me know how he felt and it wasn’t “loyalty.”

 

[DeangeloVickers]

It’s November.

Not remotely the point. You suggested he can't beat the other guys out for the spot. What proof do you have that's accurate?

 

[west2east]

west2east “Cael not being loyal is something that I have never heard before. I know and have known many guys who wrestled at Penn st and no one says that. Heck even the Iowa fans who hate everything about Penn st don't mention loyalty”

I have called him disloyal several times. What he did to Bobby Douglas is one of the most disloyal things I’ve ever seen. For those who don’t know he told the AD that he was leaving if he didn’t get to be the head coach. AD didn’t want another Dan Gable situation so he pushed Bobby out and gave the job to that disloyal SOB who quit 3 years later. Bobby was not shy about letting me know how he felt and it wasn’t “loyalty.”

I have never heard one of his athletes say that . Obviously people will hate and say what they want and most haven't had direct contact with him . The story from Ames I have heard but haven't confirmed it with anyone. It's just not a word you typically hear associated with Cael in a negative way

 

[ChiPackHawk]

I am so Sorry for being late. I had some oxtail, rice and peas, cabbage, and fried plantains for dinner last night. I actually found it at a new place here in Iowa. It's called Island vybz. If you know where Fin & Feather is, it's across the street in that little strip mall where that hardware store is. I'll be honest, it's just as good, if not BETTER than what I've had while in the Caribbean. When I say the meat falls off the bone....... MELTS in your mouth.

Wait! I digress. Anyway, I started working out with Jerimiah Moody. He's doing personal training, and well, if you've seen me, it's rather obvious that's something I could really benefit from. I just got home like ten minutes ago. IT WAS BRUTAL!! I am so freaking sore. I sat down and of course figured I would enjoy the reading at my desk in the man-cave. But get this: That oxtail started talking back to me. And I mean REALLY started talking. I barely made it to my potty, and when I say it cut loose, it cut LOOSE. Now hears where it gets really bad. I get finished doing the "doo" look over and realize my loving son had stopped by earlier today before practice and relieved himself in MY throne room! I don't know about you, but some things are sacred. and THAT's one of them. I scream to to wife! No answer, damn dog is just sitting there looking at me. He ain't no help! What's a man to do.......

Then it dawned on me. With my pants around my ankles, I hop up and do the little waddle dance to my computer. Thankfully this note from Random was still up. I hit the print button and waddled back to the bathroom closing the door behind me. You see boys and girls, I really have enough crap in my life right now.....

So I printed this and used it for toilet paper. . . . It served it's PERFECT purpose.

Well played!

 

[Gobblin]

Not remotely the point. You suggested he can't beat the other guys out for the spot. What proof do you have that's accurate?

The young man will be given every single opportunity…. At his ideal weight…. Soon.

Now shut up please…. And thank you.

 

[IAChief32]

He cites Carl's disloyalty and gives Suriano and Robert Howard as examples. Suriano ended up going to 3 schools...a talent for sure but if he were a celebrity, would probably want only blue M&Ms in the green room. Robert Howard? Poor kid was injury riddled...just a tough situation but you can't blame Carl for going after replacements. For some of the old timers on BWI, I remember an inside joke about a Rutgers and a cruise liner...this the same guy?

 

[tiltman]

I am so Sorry for being late. I had some oxtail, rice and peas, cabbage, and fried plantains for dinner last night. I actually found it at a new place here in Iowa. It's called Island vybz. If you know where Fin & Feather is, it's across the street in that little strip mall where that hardware store is. I'll be honest, it's just as good, if not BETTER than what I've had while in the Caribbean. When I say the meat falls off the bone....... MELTS in your mouth.

I ate lunch there yesterday. Second time trying it out and it’s been awesome both times! Highly recommend it to everyone.

 

[SPOONER]

not to rag on Tom even more, but I heard the new guys coming in were getting a lot more money than some of the returning AA, even the runner up. Some felt disrespected—-and almost left this summer. They got NIL increased enough to stay, but still not near what new transfers got. Obviously guys talk openly, so things need to be managed better.

Also heard what is probably reliable info that ISUs studs get 75k each. Definitely less than ours.

This is the kind if thing that happens in life at work. It’s often a balancing act but it basically always benefits those who were already there.

Not remotely the point. You suggested he can't beat the other guys out for the spot. What proof do you have that's accurate?

You somehow missed “If” despite it being the very first word in my post.

 

[MilleGinja]

I am so Sorry for being late. I had some oxtail, rice and peas, cabbage, and fried plantains for dinner last night. I actually found it at a new place here in Iowa. It's called Island vybz. If you know where Fin & Feather is, it's across the street in that little strip mall where that hardware store is. I'll be honest, it's just as good, if not BETTER than what I've had while in the Caribbean. When I say the meat falls off the bone....... MELTS in your mouth.

Wait! I digress. Anyway, I started working out with Jerimiah Moody. He's doing personal training, and well, if you've seen me, it's rather obvious that's something I could really benefit from. I just got home like ten minutes ago. IT WAS BRUTAL!! I am so freaking sore. I sat down and of course figured I would enjoy the reading at my desk in the man-cave. But get this: That oxtail started talking back to me. And I mean REALLY started talking. I barely made it to my potty, and when I say it cut loose, it cut LOOSE. Now hears where it gets really bad. I get finished doing the "doo" look over and realize my loving son had stopped by earlier today before practice and relieved himself in MY throne room! I don't know about you, but some things are sacred. and THAT's one of them. I scream to to wife! No answer, damn dog is just sitting there looking at me. He ain't no help! What's a man to do.......

Then it dawned on me. With my pants around my ankles, I hop up and do the little waddle dance to my computer. Thankfully this note from Random was still up. I hit the print button and waddled back to the bathroom closing the door behind me. You see boys and girls, I really have enough crap in my life right now.....

So I printed this and used it for toilet paper. . . . It served it's PERFECT purpose.

Late entry for reply of the year. 🤣

 

[PSU Mike]

He cites Carl's disloyalty and gives Suriano and Robert Howard as examples. Suriano ended up going to 3 schools...a talent for sure but if he were a celebrity, would probably want only blue M&Ms in the green room. Robert Howard? Poor kid was injury riddled...just a tough situation but you can't blame Carl for going after replacements. For some of the old timers on BWI, I remember an inside joke about a Rutgers and a cruise liner...this the same guy?

Yes, but different name.

 

[IAChief32]

I am so Sorry for being late. I had some oxtail, rice and peas, cabbage, and fried plantains for dinner last night. I actually found it at a new place here in Iowa. It's called Island vybz. If you know where Fin & Feather is, it's across the street in that little strip mall where that hardware store is. I'll be honest, it's just as good, if not BETTER than what I've had while in the Caribbean. When I say the meat falls off the bone....... MELTS in your mouth.

Wait! I digress. Anyway, I started working out with Jerimiah Moody. He's doing personal training, and well, if you've seen me, it's rather obvious that's something I could really benefit from. I just got home like ten minutes ago. IT WAS BRUTAL!! I am so freaking sore. I sat down and of course figured I would enjoy the reading at my desk in the man-cave. But get this: That oxtail started talking back to me. And I mean REALLY started talking. I barely made it to my potty, and when I say it cut loose, it cut LOOSE. Now hears where it gets really bad. I get finished doing the "doo" look over and realize my loving son had stopped by earlier today before practice and relieved himself in MY throne room! I don't know about you, but some things are sacred. and THAT's one of them. I scream to to wife! No answer, damn dog is just sitting there looking at me. He ain't no help! What's a man to do.......

Then it dawned on me. With my pants around my ankles, I hop up and do the little waddle dance to my computer. Thankfully this note from Random was still up. I hit the print button and waddled back to the bathroom closing the door behind me. You see boys and girls, I really have enough crap in my life right now.....

So I printed this and used it for toilet paper. . . . It served it's PERFECT purpose.

Ok...this is Dave Chapelle stuff right here. From Caribbean food, to Moody, back to the food, to loose stools into the grand finale.

 

[el dub]

The young man will be given every single opportunity…. At his ideal weight…. Soon.

Now shut up please…. And thank you.

That makes more sense. Thanks. I’m guessing he’s been working on getting down to 174 and they would mean he’d of had to weigh in light at 184 against ISU?

 

[DeangeloVickers]

The young man will be given every single opportunity…. At his ideal weight…. Soon.

Now shut up please…. And thank you.

Pretty sure I'm picking up on some sarcasm here? Just making sure...

 

[DeangeloVickers]

This is the kind if thing that happens in life at work. It’s often a balancing act but it basically always benefits those who were already there.



You somehow missed “If” despite it being the very first word in my post.

And you apparently missed the word "suggested" in my post.
What evidence do you have he's been given ample opportunity to even earn an "if"? From all accounts he hasn't, definitely not in competition.

 

[west2east]

And you apparently missed the word "suggested" in my post.
What evidence do you have he's been given ample opportunity to even earn an "if"? From all accounts he hasn't, definitely not in competition.

Did Gabe cert at 174 or 184? Since you say he wasn't given a chance you gotta know the answer 🤷

 

[SPOONER]

And you apparently missed the word "suggested" in my post.
What evidence do you have he's been given ample opportunity to even earn an "if"? From all accounts he hasn't, definitely not in competition.

I didn't suggest anything other than that it's still very early in the season. Also, more generally speaking, there are going to be come talented guys on the bench. Can't expect all of them will be content to sit.

Gabe has shown well so far. Long way to go. Take a breath. Spare us the drama and indignance.

 

[DeangeloVickers]

Did Gabe cert at 174 or 184? Since you say he wasn't given a chance you gotta know the answer 🤷

What difference does it make other than to point out a flawed plan? Did psu wait until a month into the season to figure out who'd be at 2 key weights then have someone bump up a 10 lb weight class mid season? Sorry but until we start seeing the team everyone is chasing do stuff like this I'll have a problem with it.

 

[DeangeloVickers]

I didn't suggest anything other than that it's still very early in the season. Also, more generally speaking, there are going to be come talented guys on the bench. Can't expect all of them will be content to sit.

Gabe has shown well so far. Long way to go. Take a breath. Spare us the drama and indignance.

If he can't win a spot, what do you expect will happen?

Apologies for thinking this was you suggesting the possibility of him not earning the spot. My point is no one would have any way of knowing.

 

[west2east]

What difference does it make other than to point out a flawed plan? Did psu wait until a month into the season to figure out who'd be at 2 key weights then have someone bump up a 10 lb weight class mid season? Sorry but until we start seeing the team everyone is chasing do stuff like this I'll have a problem with it.

Who at Iowa did that? I believe Gabe was bigger than you think this off season. His dad has said that boy likes to eat.

 

[blubberhawk]

I am not sure why anyone is giving this thread attention (to include me). Iowa is not losing any elite wrestler and the only one with a connection to Rutgers is Ferrari. He isn’t leaving and if he went anywhere — it wouldn’t be Rutgers.

I wouldn’t be surprised if AJ went there next year.

Aj is not leaving the limelight to wrestle at Rutgers. 14,000 in the seats or 400?

 

[PSU Mike]

Aj is not leaving the limelight to wrestle at Rutgers. 14,000 in the seats or 400?

Angelo? Or do you know something we outsiders have long suspected … ?

 

[Random4598375]

I am so Sorry for being late. I had some oxtail, rice and peas, cabbage, and fried plantains for dinner last night. I actually found it at a new place here in Iowa. It's called Island vybz. If you know where Fin & Feather is, it's across the street in that little strip mall where that hardware store is. I'll be honest, it's just as good, if not BETTER than what I've had while in the Caribbean. When I say the meat falls off the bone....... MELTS in your mouth.

Wait! I digress. Anyway, I started working out with Jerimiah Moody. He's doing personal training, and well, if you've seen me, it's rather obvious that's something I could really benefit from. I just got home like ten minutes ago. IT WAS BRUTAL!! I am so freaking sore. I sat down and of course figured I would enjoy the reading at my desk in the man-cave. But get this: That oxtail started talking back to me. And I mean REALLY started talking. I barely made it to my potty, and when I say it cut loose, it cut LOOSE. Now hears where it gets really bad. I get finished doing the "doo" look over and realize my loving son had stopped by earlier today before practice and relieved himself in MY throne room! I don't know about you, but some things are sacred. and THAT's one of them. I scream to to wife! No answer, damn dog is just sitting there looking at me. He ain't no help! What's a man to do.......

Then it dawned on me. With my pants around my ankles, I hop up and do the little waddle dance to my computer. Thankfully this note from Random was still up. I hit the print button and waddled back to the bathroom closing the door behind me. You see boys and girls, I really have enough crap in my life right now.....

So I printed this and used it for toilet paper. . . . It served it's PERFECT purpose.

LOL. Printer paper sounds a little rough.

 

[Jagger712]

There’s plenty of digs you can take at Rutgers but an empty arena is not one of them.

 

[SPOONER]

Apologies for thinking this was you suggesting the possibility of him not earning the spot. My point is no one would have any way of knowing.

Well it is fair to say it’s a possibility, isn’t it? But I certainly don’t know one way or the other. But he’s wrestled in 3 of the 4 duals and done well, and it’s early. He’s getting his shot.

 

[SPOONER]

Aj is not leaving the limelight to wrestle at Rutgers. 14,000 in the seats or 400?

You think Bakersfield is drawing 14K fans? Or are you one of the dolts who still thinks he could end up at Iowa?

 

[sabula]

You think Bakersfield is drawing 14K fans? Or are you one of the dolts who still thinks he could end up at Iowa?

Bakersfield isn't drawing anywhere close to 14,000 or either is Rutgers. Rutgers average attendance for the last few years is between 4,000 and 5,000. Not bad, but not like the Hawks, who lead the country by far every year. So I'm not sure who he was inferring with the 14000 number.

 

[DeangeloVickers]

Who at Iowa did that? I believe Gabe was bigger than you think this off season. His dad has said that boy likes to eat.

It's been discussed in other threads. He may like to eat but he's still a very undersized 184.

Well it is fair to say it’s a possibility, isn’t it? But I certainly don’t know one way or the other. But he’s wrestled in 3 of the 4 duals and done well, and it’s early. He’s getting his shot.

*At a less than his ideal weight class.

 

[DeangeloVickers]

You think Bakersfield is drawing 14K fans? Or are you one of the dolts who still thinks he could end up at Iowa?

He's clearly confusing AJ and Angelo.

 

[west2east]

It's been discussed in other threads. He may like to eat but he's still a very undersized 184.

*At a less than his ideal weight class.

I'm glad you know his ideal weight better than him and his family do. Enjoy your thanksgiving DV

 

[WildTurk]

It's been discussed in other threads. He may like to eat but he's still a very undersized 184.

He is short. But he is not undersized this year.

 

[el dub]

He is short. But he is not undersized this year.

I’m thinking is’s his height that makes him undersized at 184. But he’s so quick, it almost makes up for it.

 

[SPOONER]

It's been discussed in other threads. He may like to eat but he's still a very undersized 184.

*At a less than his ideal weight class.

Might be true. But you’re pushing a narrative that he isn’t getting a fair shake. It’s weird, when his own family clearly doesn’t share your belief.

Kennedy-Brands-Ferrari-Arnold. These guys are all fairly close.

 

[AFHawk86]

Might be true. But you’re pushing a narrative that he isn’t getting a fair shake. It’s weird, when his own family clearly doesn’t share your belief.

Kennedy-Brands-Ferrari-Arnold. These guys are all fairly close.

And if the family did share that belief I don’t think they’re the type to blast it on social media to further stir the pot.

 

[SPOONER]

And if the family did share that belief I don’t think they’re the type to blast it on social media to further stir the pot.

I’m sure they feel good knowing a keyboard crusader has their back.

 

[nu2u]

Kennedy-Brands-Ferrari-Arnold. These guys are all fairly close.

As a more casual fan, I see a big gap between Kennedy and Brands. Brands might take a couple shots the first 5 minutes otherwise he will lock and tie whereas PK is an attack minded machine from the handshake JMO.

 

[AFHawk86]

I’m sure they feel good knowing a keyboard crusader has their back.

I do what I can. Not sure my efforts rise to the level of “crusader” but I appreciate the compliment.

 

[DeangeloVickers]

I'm glad you know his ideal weight better than him and his family do. Enjoy your thanksgiving DV

Him and his family being great human beings and team players still doesn't make him an ideal 184.

 

[MilleGinja]

As a more casual fan, I see a big gap between Kennedy and Brands. Brands might take a couple shots the first 5 minutes otherwise he will lock and tie whereas PK is an attack minded machine from the handshake JMO.

You’re not entirely wrong. I don’t think Brands would have gotten the TF against ISU. But I have more faith in Brands making the podium than PK, simply because he’s done it before.

 

[SPOONER]

As a more casual fan, I see a big gap between Kennedy and Brands. Brands might take a couple shots the first 5 minutes otherwise he will lock and tie whereas PK is an attack minded machine from the handshake JMO.

All well and good but one’s been on the podium and one hasn’t. Not saying you’re wrong. Not by a long shot. But that’s the counterpoint.

I do what I can. Not sure my efforts rise to the level of “crusader” but I appreciate the compliment.

I wasn’t talking about you.

 

[smalls103]

I am so Sorry for being late. I had some oxtail, rice and peas, cabbage, and fried plantains for dinner last night. I actually found it at a new place here in Iowa. It's called Island vybz. If you know where Fin & Feather is, it's across the street in that little strip mall where that hardware store is. I'll be honest, it's just as good, if not BETTER than what I've had while in the Caribbean. When I say the meat falls off the bone....... MELTS in your mouth.

rice and peas is underrated.

you ever have Hoppin' John, Phil?