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Rutgers "Insider" Claims Elite Guys Leaving Both PSU and Iowa

I’m thinking is’s his height that makes him undersized at 184. But he’s so quick, it almost makes up for it.
I'm telling you fellas, I didn't like what I saw in person at Bellarmine. That 184 pounder had that long solid body many of you have mentioned as a potential Kryptonite and Gabe didn't have much of an answer for it. What I saw shocked the piss out of me, though I know it was still very early, and made me think what others have already said. I'd love to see them all pick their ideal weight for SS, and may the best two men win...and be our reps at 174 and 184, respectively.
 
You’re not entirely wrong. I don’t think Brands would have gotten the TF against ISU. But I have more faith in Brands making the podium than PK, simply because he’s done it before.
I used to think like that but not based on what I've seen so far this year. His zero offense until the last minute strategy has been scouted and scouted again. Currently I think he's a 2-2 at best. Perhaps PK learned from last year and will keep the foot on the peddle. Anyhow, this, what I've seen so far, is definitely not the Nelson Brands I was selling my soul on over the summer.
 
Carl and loyalty do not mix. Ask Beard, Barraclough, or Jenkins, Iowa State I mean I can go on and on. He will sell his soul to win all he cares about is winning and doesn’t care how he gets there. One of my all time favorite moments at NCAA’s was Jenkins pinning Taylor. That one backfired in his face.
I will be shocked if anyone on the roster now leaves. Angelo maybe because of his dad is a possibility I guess but he does like it here.
 
Carl and loyalty do not mix. Ask Beard, Barraclough, or Jenkins, Iowa State I mean I can go on and on. He will sell his soul to win all he cares about is winning and doesn’t care how he gets there. One of my all time favorite moments at NCAA’s was Jenkins pinning Taylor. That one backfired in his face.
I will be shocked if anyone on the roster now leaves. Angelo maybe because of his dad is a possibility I guess but he does like it here.
Now we know how far a human can insert his head …
 
not to rag on Tom even more, but I heard the new guys coming in were getting a lot more money than some of the returning AA, even the runner up. Some felt disrespected—-and almost left this summer. They got NIL increased enough to stay, but still not near what new transfers got. Obviously guys talk openly, so things need to be managed better.

Also heard what is probably reliable info that ISUs studs get 75k each. Definitely less than ours.
The new transfers are all 3x All Americans. That is why they got more. Drake is a 1x AA, Nelson is a 1x AA, and Caliendo became a 2x AA at Iowa with someone just as good (Kennedy) sitting in the wings. Not sure who has the right to complain here. I think the guys that complained, Siebrecht, Rhodes, and Glazier all left.
 
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Carl and loyalty do not mix. Ask Beard, Barraclough, or Jenkins, Iowa State I mean I can go on and on. He will sell his soul to win all he cares about is winning and doesn’t care how he gets there. One of my all time favorite moments at NCAA’s was Jenkins pinning Taylor. That one backfired in his face.
I will be shocked if anyone on the roster now leaves. Angelo maybe because of his dad is a possibility I guess but he does like it here.
This is pretty tone deaf. Every coach recruits over. Every coach in every sport at every level.
 
I used to think like that but not based on what I've seen so far this year. His zero offense until the last minute strategy has been scouted and scouted again. Currently I think he's a 2-2 at best. Perhaps PK learned from last year and will keep the foot on the peddle. Anyhow, this, what I've seen so far, is definitely not the Nelson Brands I was selling my soul on over the summer.
I seem to recall similar comments made about Warnerov every regular season. Some dudes just show up in the post season, and some don’t.
 
I am so Sorry for being late. I had some oxtail, rice and peas, cabbage, and fried plantains for dinner last night. I actually found it at a new place here in Iowa. It's called Island vybz. If you know where Fin & Feather is, it's across the street in that little strip mall where that hardware store is. I'll be honest, it's just as good, if not BETTER than what I've had while in the Caribbean. When I say the meat falls off the bone....... MELTS in your mouth.

Wait! I digress. Anyway, I started working out with Jerimiah Moody. He's doing personal training, and well, if you've seen me, it's rather obvious that's something I could really benefit from. I just got home like ten minutes ago. IT WAS BRUTAL!! I am so freaking sore. I sat down and of course figured I would enjoy the reading at my desk in the man-cave. But get this: That oxtail started talking back to me. And I mean REALLY started talking. I barely made it to my potty, and when I say it cut loose, it cut LOOSE. Now hears where it gets really bad. I get finished doing the "doo" look over and realize my loving son had stopped by earlier today before practice and relieved himself in MY throne room! I don't know about you, but some things are sacred. and THAT's one of them. I scream to to wife! No answer, damn dog is just sitting there looking at me. He ain't no help! What's a man to do.......

Then it dawned on me. With my pants around my ankles, I hop up and do the little waddle dance to my computer. Thankfully this note from Random was still up. I hit the print button and waddled back to the bathroom closing the door behind me. You see boys and girls, I really have enough crap in my life right now.....

So I printed this and used it for toilet paper. . . . It served its PERFECT purpose.
I don’t think I’ve ever been this interested in a man telling a story about taking a shit before! The last sentence was perfect! Well played sir!
 
Carl and loyalty do not mix. Ask Beard, Barraclough, or Jenkins, Iowa State I mean I can go on and on. He will sell his soul to win all he cares about is winning and doesn’t care how he gets there. One of my all time favorite moments at NCAA’s was Jenkins pinning Taylor. That one backfired in his face.
I will be shocked if anyone on the roster now leaves. Angelo maybe because of his dad is a possibility I guess but he does like it here.
A coaches job is to put the best players on a team, if you want a participation trophy go coach T-Ball, what about Brands bringing in Buchanan when you had a very good Glazier? How about Caliendo coming in and putting Kennedy on the bench? It’s funny how you only see what you want to see
 
A coaches job is to put the best players on a team, if you want a participation trophy go coach T-Ball, what about Brands bringing in Buchanan when you had a very good Glazier? How about Caliendo coming in and putting Kennedy on the bench? It’s funny how you only see what you want to see
This is true and I also like it. If a wrestler is not getting the job done, bring another guy. The one "being recruited over" still has the opportunity to win/keep his spot. That is life and certainly wrestling - competition.
 
A coaches job is to put the best players on a team, if you want a participation trophy go coach T-Ball, what about Brands bringing in Buchanan when you had a very good Glazier? How about Caliendo coming in and putting Kennedy on the bench? It’s funny how you only see what you want to see
Brands knew Glazier was having a great run as a room guy last fall, but the old Glazier came out in the big ten finals and the NCAA tournament. He would have been recruited over last year if AJ wouldn’t have imploded after beating Glazier at the SS. He shouldn’t have been surprised when Tom went for it when another guy of AJ’s ability became available. Too bad he doesn’t have 3 years of eligibility like AJ .
 
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Brands knew Glazier was having a great run as a room guy last fall, but the old Glazier came out in the big ten finals and the NCAA tournament. He would have been recruited over last year if AJ wouldn’t have imploded after beating Glazier at the SS. He shouldn’t have been surprised when Tom went for it when another guy of AJ’s ability became available. Too bad he doesn’t have 3 years of eligibility like AJ .
Buchanan is nowhere near AJ’s ability. For a guy who was all over AJ last year, that’s a really weird comparison to make.

Buchanan got absolutely smashed by Brooks last year. As much as I find AJ a terrible human being, he’d never get demolished like that. 197 was pretty weak outside of Hidlay and Brooks last year. No one else was even close to their level. Buchanan took 3rd, sure, but this happened along the way:

 
Brands knew Glazier was having a great run as a room guy last fall, but the old Glazier came out in the big ten finals and the NCAA tournament. He would have been recruited over last year if AJ wouldn’t have imploded after beating Glazier at the SS. He shouldn’t have been surprised when Tom went for it when another guy of AJ’s ability became available. Too bad he doesn’t have 3 years of eligibility like AJ .
Maybe that’s true, but if you go back and read through some of these posts going into nationals last year, many of you were predicting him as an All-American.
 
Maybe that’s true, but if you go back and read through some of these posts going into nationals last year, many of you were predicting him as an All-American.
What’s your point? Based on how he was wrestling at the time, Glazier had a shot at getting to All-American. He didn’t get the job done. Us predicting/hoping he would make it isn’t the same thing as him being a consistently All-American caliber wrestler
 
What’s your point? Based on how he was wrestling at the time, Glazier had a shot at getting to All-American. He didn’t get the job done. Us predicting/hoping he would make it isn’t the same thing as him being a consistently All-American caliber wrestler
What’s my point? Ummm, you call him a “room guy” once he fails at nationals yet going into nationals he was expected to AA……how many times do “room” guys AA? Can’t have it both ways
 
What’s my point? Ummm, you call him a “room guy” once he fails at nationals yet going into nationals he was expected to AA……how many times do “room” guys AA? Can’t have it both ways
When room guys can't live up to expectations, whoseever those are , because they are actually room guys, they don't AA. See how easy it is? Thought you could have understood that.
 
Buchanan is nowhere near AJ’s ability. For a guy who was all over AJ last year, that’s a really weird comparison to make.

Buchanan got absolutely smashed by Brooks last year. As much as I find AJ a terrible human being, he’d never get demolished like that. 197 was pretty weak outside of Hidlay and Brooks last year. No one else was even close to their level. Buchanan took 3rd, sure, but this happened along the way:

Brooks is probably a top 5 wrestler of all time. If not for an awful brain fart in the semis he quite likely wins a gold medal this year. A lot of great guys have been wrecked by him over the years.
If and when they meet Buchanan is going to give AJ all he can handle.
 
You guys are arguing just to argue.

Glazier came into the season last year as a fifth-year non-starter with a 9-7 career record.

I call that a room guy.

He surprised everyone by going into Big Tens with a 21-1 record, and into NCAAs as a #7 seed with a 24-2 record.

I call that a potential AA.

He lost in the first round to the #26 seed, then beat #23 and lost to #9 in the wrestle backs. In other words, he wrestled below his seed.

Flo has him at #11 now.

So he was a room guy for four years who had a good season as a starter heading into NCAAs but didn't perform well.

And in his sixth year he's again a fringe AA, at least according to Flo.

I don't think there's anything controversial about the above. Why are we arguing again?
 
You guys are arguing just to argue.

Glazier came into the season last year as a fifth-year non-starter with a 9-7 career record.

I call that a room guy.

He surprised everyone by going into Big Tens with a 21-1 record, and into NCAAs as a #7 seed with a 24-2 record.

I call that a potential AA.

He lost in the first round to the #26 seed, then beat #23 and lost to #9 in the wrestle backs. In other words, he wrestled below his seed.

Flo has him at #11 now.

So he was a room guy for four years who had a good season as a starter heading into NCAAs but didn't perform well.

And in his sixth year he's again a fringe AA, at least according to Flo.

I don't think there's anything controversial about the above. Why are we arguing again?
Because they like our guys.
 
The new transfers are all 3x All Americans. That is why they got more. Drake is a 1x AA, Nelson is a 1x AA, and Caliendo became a 2x AA at Iowa with someone just as good (Kennedy) sitting in the wings. Not sure who has the right to complain here. I think the guys that complained, Siebrecht, Rhodes, and Glazier all left.
A never have AAed (PK) is as good as a 2 X AA (Caliendo)? Dang, that is an interesting use of rationalization and subjectivity.
 
A never have AAed (PK) is as good as a 2 X AA (Caliendo)? Dang, that is an interesting use of rationalization and subjectivity.
Why can’t Kennedy be almost as good? If Caliendo is better that doesn’t mean that Kennedy could not have AA’ed last year. Barraclough would have likely AA last year and could be considered “almost as good” as Kasak. I think you understand the point he was making but you just want to feel smart today so you decided to post.
 
Apparently Glazier thought he was an upgrade too.
To be fair, if I were Glazier I would presumably think I could beat Buchanan. ("I was seeded above him, had one bad tourney, learned from it, and I'm ready to be in the finals my senior year, maybe even slip past AJ--again.")

But the fact that Buchanan was brought in as an upgrade tells me my confidence in myself is not shared by my coach, and even if I beat him am I still going to potentially ride the pine my senior year? No thanks. I'll transfer to a program that needs me and believes in me.

Now, hopefully that's Glazier's mindset. Personally, my money is on Buchanan
 
To be fair, if I were Glazier I would presumably think I could beat Buchanan. ("I was seeded above him, had one bad tourney, learned from it, and I'm ready to be in the finals my senior year, maybe even slip past AJ--again.")

But the fact that Buchanan was brought in as an upgrade tells me my confidence in myself is not shared by my coach, and even if I beat him am I still going to potentially ride the pine my senior year? No thanks. I'll transfer to a program that needs me and believes in me.

Now, hopefully that's Glazier's mindset. Personally, my money is on Buchanan
Hopefully Zach can AA this year like he should have last year. What was Buchanan seeded last year? Must of had a bad regular season. The way Buchanan is wrestling now, I like his chances against AJ. How well AJ does in the cliff keen will tell us a lot. Zach didn’t slip by AJ last year until the fight after the match, and this time AJ won’t be so rusty and won’t be coming fresh off a big weight cut. I haven’t seen Zach Elam yet this year, he looking like a legit contender?
 
Hopefully Zach can AA this year like he should have last year. What was Buchanan seeded last year? Must of had a bad regular season. The way Buchanan is wrestling now, I like his chances against AJ. How well AJ does in the cliff keen will tell us a lot. Zach didn’t slip by AJ last year until the fight after the match, and this time AJ won’t be so rusty and won’t be coming fresh off a big weight cut. I haven’t seen Zach Elam yet this year, he looking like a legit contender?
Buchanan was the #8 seed he lost to Sloan and Elam during the regular season. He majored Little at NCAAs. Little beat Glazier. Glazier got handled today by Salazar Minnesota 8-1
 
if you don't believe buchanan is an upgrade over glazier then you don't know wrestling
I 100% believe Buchanan is a large upgrade over Glazier, I’m not arguing that. This whole thing goes back to Spooner bashing Cael and his loyalty about recruiting over other guys. I don’t blame brands at all for bringing him in. Go back and read the beginning.
 
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