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This has probably been discussed a bit, but how did Rutgers get all ten into the NCAA? Are they that good as a team? Nothing against them and best of luck (except against Hawks) Probably a bunch of happy parents who don't have to go far to see their kids wrestle.
 
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This has probably been discussed a bit, but how did Rutgers get all ten into the NCAA? Are they that good as a team? Nothing against them and best of luck Probably a bunch of happy parents who don't have to go far to see their kids wrestle.
I believe Nebraska also got all 10 in. Both teams are on the rise and have some tough kids.
 
It's a short train ride from New Brunswick to Penn Station in NYC. They, overall, are very conservative in style. Don't score a lot but don't get out of position often. Ashnault is their best by far, but even he has, imo, had his style muted there. I had season tickets for a couple of years but am not renewing. Overall, I think they wrestled above their level at the BIG's but that's what it's about, isn't it? I would predict a couple of AA for them this year (Ashnault and Perotti) but the larger pool will hurt them at Nationals.
 
Adding Donny Pritzlaff to the coaching staff this off season helped a lot in the practice room and in match preparation . While probably no Champs this year (Ashnault has a very realistic shot at 141) the team is very balanced. RU qualified 9 out of the 10 weight classes and only 125 McCabe needed an at large. RU performed pretty well at the Midlands this season as well. This years incoming class it's best ever, probably a top 5-7 class. Graduating Anthony Perrotti and Billy Smith will be tough to replace, especially Smith.

Enjoy the tourny , NYC should be fun this weekend with both Wrestling and Basketball tourny's in NYC hitting the Big Apple, along with the craziness of St Paddy's Day on Thursday. I'll be there on Friday and maybe Saturday.
 
Rutger's Alumnus here. HU RA RUTGERS RAH! On the banks of the Old Raritan...... Sorry. Glad to see them in the Big Ten. But, still, GO HAWKS!
 
Matter7172.......I was wondering if I might have run into you at Toftrees Resort in SC. Might you have worked there in the 80s??
 
This has probably been discussed a bit, but how did Rutgers get all ten into the NCAA? Are they that good as a team? Nothing against them and best of luck (except against Hawks) Probably a bunch of happy parents who don't have to go far to see their kids wrestle.

They have a nice team. A lot of average to above average guys without much star power. Kind of like a poor man's Nebraska in that regard.
 
NJ is a talent rich state with some of the best NJ High School wrestling programs (Blair, Bergen Catholic). Now that RU has joined the Big 10, hired Don Pritzlaff to the staff, and plans on the table to improve build new wrestling facilities , the Trend for Rutgeers is looking good. This year they have an excellent class coming in (Win Magazine had it as #3,not sure if that has changed). NJ has an avid wrestling following as witnessed by the 40,000 fans who turnout every year to watch it's NJ State Championships at years end in Atlantic City. Fan support for the Rutgers program is building quickly, I think in the top 10 in the NCAA (too early to do a search).

Will the program ever reach the stature of Iowa, Penn St and a handful of others ? No, very doubtful, but it is definitely becoming a top 10-15 program as witnessed by it's 5th place showing in the Big 10 tourny, attendence and recruiting level, all with a dump of a wrestling room.
 
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Matter7172.....then your not your name's sake! Actually Andy was working with myself and a friend of mine trying to get a dogsled race there. Bummer was he left before we could get it approved.
 
NJ is a talent rich state with some of the best NJ High School wrestling programs (Blair, Bergen Catholic). Now that RU has joined the Big 10, hired Don Pritzlaff to the staff, and plans on the table to improve build new wrestling facilities , the Trend for Rutgeers is looking good. This year they have an excellent class coming in (Win Magazine had it as #3,not sure if that has changed). NJ has an avid wrestling following as witnessed by the 40,000 fans who turnout every year to watch it's NJ State Championships at years end in Atlantic City. Fan support for the Rutgers program is building quickly, I think in the top 10 in the NCAA (too early to do a search).

Will the program ever reach the stature of Iowa, Penn St and a handful of others ? No, very doubtful, but it is definitely becoming a top 10-15 program as witnessed by it's 5th place showing in the Big 10 tourny, attendence and recruiting level, all with a dump of a wrestling room.

You're correct that NJ has become a very strong HS wrestling state, but I'm not sure where BC or Blair come into the picture. They don't have a starter on the team from either school, and most of their kids wrestled for their local public school; including Ashnault. If anything, the private schools are going to put negative pressure on Rutger's recruiting of elite in-state talent, because parents sending their kids to BC, Blair, Delbarton, etc are generally doing so specifically to either get their kids into an Ivy or to an elite wrestling school.

imo the real story in NJ is the proliferation of quality wrestling clubs, and the fact that the high-density of the state allows most kids to have multiple options for clubs. Apex, Iron Horse, Olympic, Scorpions; I know in North Jersey most kids have half a dozen quality clubs within 30 minutes of their home. I also think that putting all kids into a single group at states helps, because every single kid knows they have to be pretty damn elite if they want to place at states. When you have three of four state champions in your state, the pressure for kids to train hard 12 months out of the year isn't as high.

That said, I think the fact that Rutgers was able to qualify 10 guys for Nationals says something good about Rutgers, and also points out how amazing it is to Iowa fans that the Hawks aren't able to consistently field ten competitive wrestlers.
 
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You're correct that NJ has become a very strong HS wrestling state, but I'm not sure where BC or Blair come into the picture. They don't have a starter on the team from either school, and most of their kids wrestled for their local public school; including Ashnault. If anything, the private schools are going to put negative pressure on Rutger's recruiting of elite in-state talent, because parents sending their kids to BC, Blair, Delbarton, etc are generally doing so specifically to either get their kids into an Ivy or to an elite wrestling school.

imo the real story in NJ is the proliferation of quality wrestling clubs, and the fact that the high-density of the state allows most kids to have multiple options for clubs. Apex, Iron Horse, Olympic, Scorpions; I know in North Jersey most kids have half a dozen quality clubs within 30 minutes of their home. I also think that putting all kids into a single group at states helps, because every single kid knows they have to be pretty damn elite if they want to place at states. When you have three of four state champions in your state, the pressure for kids to train hard 12 months out of the year isn't as high.

That said, I think the fact that Rutgers was able to qualify 10 guys for Nationals says something good about Rutgers, and also points out how amazing it is to Iowa fans that the Hawks aren't able to consistently field ten competitive wrestlers.

3 of RU's incoming class are coming from the privates, Grello and Mulligan both from Bergen Catholic and Correntti from Holy Cross, all ranked nationally , Mario Mason of Blair wrestled for RU recently, Also hearing Mason Manville of Wyoming Sem & Blair might be switching his commitment to Rutgers( just a rumor). RU becoming a member of the Big 10 has changed the perception of Rutgers among the elite HS wrestlers in NJ. Having Pritzlaff on staff helps as well.

NJ has always been a strong Wrestling state, RU never focused on wrestling until recently. I agree wrestling down to 1 champ makes the NJ Tourny very strong and interesting. Last year NJ had the 3rd most NCAA medalists behind only Pennsylvania and Ohio .
 
You're correct that NJ has become a very strong HS wrestling state, but I'm not sure where BC or Blair come into the picture. They don't have a starter on the team from either school, and most of their kids wrestled for their local public school; including Ashnault. If anything, the private schools are going to put negative pressure on Rutger's recruiting of elite in-state talent, because parents sending their kids to BC, Blair, Delbarton, etc are generally doing so specifically to either get their kids into an Ivy or to an elite wrestling school.

imo the real story in NJ is the proliferation of quality wrestling clubs, and the fact that the high-density of the state allows most kids to have multiple options for clubs. Apex, Iron Horse, Olympic, Scorpions; I know in North Jersey most kids have half a dozen quality clubs within 30 minutes of their home. I also think that putting all kids into a single group of states helps, because every single kid knows they have to be pretty damn elite if they want to place at states. When you have three of four state champions in your state, the pressure for kids to train hard 12 months out of the year isn't as high.

That said, I think the fact that Rutgers was able to qualify 10 guys for Nationals says something good about Rutgers, and also points out how amazing it is to Iowa fans that the Hawks aren't able to consistently field ten competitive wrestlers.
3 of RU's incoming class are coming from the privates, Grello and Mulligan both from Bergen Catholic and Correntti from Holy Cross. All ranked nationally , Also hearing Mason Manville of Wyoming Sem & Blair might be switching his commitment to Rutgers( just a rumor). RU becoming a member of the Big 10 has changed the perception of Rutgers among the elite HS wrestlers in NJ. Having Pritzlaff on staff helps as well.

NJ has always been a strong Wrestling state, RU never focused on wrestling until recently.

I know Rutgers always gets some decent recruits from private schools, but a)that doesn't account for their current success, because their current success has come mainly from public school kids, b)the private schools aren't creating top wrestlers, they're accumulating them, and c) I believe kids who attend elite wrestling private schools are going to be less likely to attend Rutgers than attend either an Ivy-type school or an elite wrestling school such as Penn State. That's why their parents are sending them to schools like BC and Delbarton -- to get their kids national exposure.

It's a fine point; but I don't see that the centralizing of talent to a handful of private schools has done, or is going to do, anything positive for Rutgers.
 
NJ is a talent rich state with some of the best NJ High School wrestling programs (Blair, Bergen Catholic). Now that RU has joined the Big 10, hired Don Pritzlaff to the staff, and plans on the table to improve build new wrestling facilities , the Trend for Rutgeers is looking good. This year they have an excellent class coming in (Win Magazine had it as #3,not sure if that has changed). NJ has an avid wrestling following as witnessed by the 40,000 fans who turnout every year to watch it's NJ State Championships at years end in Atlantic City. Fan support for the Rutgers program is building quickly, I think in the top 10 in the NCAA (too early to do a search).

Will the program ever reach the stature of Iowa, Penn St and a handful of others ? No, very doubtful, but it is definitely becoming a top 10-15 program as witnessed by it's 5th place showing in the Big 10 tourny, attendence and recruiting level, all with a dump of a wrestling room.

NJ has some talent!
Who remembers the Burroughs / Molinaro 125lb state final? Really!
 
When I was in High School I watched a wrestler from Westfield HS win NJ States. Chris Campbell. I think he went on to do ok in college. :)

Saw Steve Mocco dominate in HS as well.

Hated seeing Suriano go to PSU, I truly think he will be a 4x. AA
 
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