Oregon St Predictions/Thoughts

[blcoach80]

Would be stupid not to redshirt Ferrari. Idc who goes 74 or 84 between Arnold and Brands but I hope it’s figured out by now. Would make no sense to wait for SS, let whoever is going 84 get as big as possible and not cut to 74 at all this year.

Why would it be stupid to not RS Angelo? What if he is the best 184lber this year and wants to go? I agree that next year he has an easier path and could be even better, but maybe he feels he can win it all this year too. Maybe he gets banged up in the next 4 years and can't wrestle. The days of auto redshirting guys are over. I actually wish Gabe would have went at 184 last year for my own selfish reasons, but he and the coaches didn't feel that was right for him. I think a lot more thought and discussion with the coaches and families goes into this than people realize.

 

[Ilhawk135]

Why would it be stupid to not RS Angelo? What if he is the best 184lber this year and wants to go? I agree that next year he has an easier path and could be even better, but maybe he feels he can win it all this year too. Maybe he gets banged up in the next 4 years and can't wrestle. The days of auto redshirting guys are over. I actually wish Gabe would have went at 184 last year for my own selfish reasons, but he and the coaches didn't feel that was right for him. I think a lot more thought and discussion with the coaches and families goes into this than people realize.

I agree, they should have gone with Arnold at 84 last year but that’s because we had Riggins there and I loved his effort but he was simply too small to be competitive. Also 84 wasn’t super deep last year. But this is a different situation, even if Angelo is better than Arnold or brands it’s not going to be by much more likely than not this year. Unless he’s blowing them out in the room and there’s gonna be a big point differential from them at nationals it would be dumb to do. Ferrari isn’t even a good sized 84 yet, give him a year to grow into the weight.

 

[blcoach80]

I agree, they should have gone with Arnold at 84 last year but that’s because we had Riggins there and I loved his effort but he was simply too small to be competitive. Also 84 wasn’t super deep last year. But this is a different situation, even if Angelo is better than Arnold or brands it’s not going to be by much more likely than not this year. Unless he’s blowing them out in the room and there’s gonna be a big point differential from them at nationals it would be dumb to do. Ferrari isn’t even a good sized 84 yet, give him a year to grow into the weight.

For sure this is different than last year at 184. I think Gabe probably AAs last year, but was not going to be a champ at 184. 174/184 both have two absolute hammers this year. Angelo can absolutely be a champ next year, but the question is can he hang with CStar and Keck this year? If so and he wants to go, I don't know how you RS him. The fact of the matter is these are the discussions/arguments we have all wanted to be having for a few years now. Stockpile talent and let the wrestlers decide who goes where on the mat.