If he doesn't make the Final 4 he's fired right?
He's 45 years old. He's got a lot of P4 head coaching in his future.Where would he go? What would happen to him without the 5 stars and Nil? Probably end up like Fickell. 👍
If this were his first loss to Michigan in a while, I'd say he's safe still.If he doesn't make the Final 4 he's fired right?
Chip Kelly without Scott Frost is nothing.He's 45 years old. He's got a lot of P4 head coaching in his future.
Chip Kelly's reputation really took a hit today, too. WTF?
He can’t win with 40 plus four and five star guys. How does he win with two and three star guys and the occasional four or five stars?Good lord, if he is canned, Iowa should pay Kirk whatever it needs to get Kirk down the road. Ryan Day is a good coach.
If he doesn't make the Final 4 he's fired right?
They lost today partially because of special team, Will Howard is not a great QB. Add Parker, and Woods to that staff and OSU wins by 20+. I bet he'd still recruit well at Iowa.He can’t win with 40 plus four and five star guys. How does he win with two and three star guys and the occasional four or five stars?
I will say, Day can’t be blamed for the terrible qb play and bad kicking but it’s his responsibility as HC.
I think at least, if not win the CFP. 4 straight loses to Michigan, (this a year a 6-5 Michigan team) 4 years no B1G championships, 3-7 record against other top 5 tanked teams.If he doesn't make the Final 4 he's fired right?
Is he? I'm not being critical. I'm saying based on the talent he has available? Losing record to Michigan. (this year a 6-5 Michigan team). 3-7 against other top 5 ranked teams. Zero B1G championships last 4 years. I mean he's a good coach I guess, but is he REALLY an upgrade over the coaches at the top 7 or 8 other conference schools as HC? Based on what?Good lord, if he is canned, Iowa should pay Kirk whatever it needs to get Kirk down the road. Ryan Day is a good coach.
Lets be fair here. Is Kirk not blamed for poor QB play or other positions? Was Howard the best guy THEY could get? How many QB's have transferred out of OSU in the last 4 years? Did he keep the right ones?He can’t win with 40 plus four and five star guys. How does he win with two and three star guys and the occasional four or five stars?
I will say, Day can’t be blamed for the terrible qb play and bad kicking but it’s his responsibility as HC.
Thats an assumption, nothing more.....They lost today partially because of special team, Will Howard is not a great QB. Add Parker, and Woods to that staff and OSU wins by 20+. I bet he'd still recruit well at Iowa.
Especially after being favored by 20 points. He's just a CHOKE job in big gamesMight even need a Championship appearance. Losing 4 straight to Michigan might as well be a Class A felony if you're OSU's head coach.
During the game they kept saying 23.5 pt favorites. I don't know, I don't really follow betting lines. Just thought that was a crazy line for an OSU vs M game.....Ohio State was a 20.5 point favorite today.
They are now 10-2, won't play in the B1G title game, and essentially are the 3rd best team in the B1G.
They have spent $20M in NIL on this roster.
National Championship or bust, imo.
Michigan 13-10 Ohio State (Nov 30, 2024) Final Score - ESPN
Game summary of the Michigan Wolverines vs. Ohio State Buckeyes NCAAF game, final score 13-10, from November 30, 2024 on ESPN.www.espn.com
you don't have to follow them, that is where the betting line nets 50/50 wagering. Nothing more.During the game they kept saying 23.5 pt favorites. I don't know, I don't really follow betting lines. Just thought that was a crazy line for an OSU vs M game.....
How about John Day?He’s no longer Ryan Day. He’s now Ryan Cooper.
All head coaches are. The difference is there are certain expectations that must be met at tOSU vs Iowa. Either you win at tOSU or you are gone for not winning B1G titles or playing for a national championship. Add in, beating Michigan.Let’s be fair here. Is Kirk not blamed for poor QB play or other positions? Was Howard the best guy THEY could get? How many QB's have transferred out of OSU in the last 4 years? Did he keep the right ones?
Na, OSU should have paid Cam Ward, and he would have gone there.Lets be fair here. Is Kirk not blamed for poor QB play or other positions? Was Howard the best guy THEY could get? How many QB's have transferred out of OSU in the last 4 years? Did he keep the right ones?
I'm not disagreeing, thats my point. Poster says that Day should not be too blame for Howards play? Really? He has access to players no one else can get. So he is responsible...All head coaches are. The difference is there are certain expectations that must be met at tOSU vs Iowa. Either you win at tOSU or you are gone for not winning B1G titles or playing for a national championship. Add in, beating Michigan.
At Iowa, KF has done a good job but hasn’t won a B1G title since 2004 and is in no jeopardy of losing his job or experienced any heat at all. I wish Iowa had pursued Kyle McCord after last season or Ty Thompson but KF was committed to Cade McNamara which proved to be a mistake. tOSU qb room is deep and good. Just amazed they thought Will Howard was the answer to their need.
Exactly, which is why he is responsible for their QB play....Na, OSU should have paid Cam Ward, and he would have gone there.
Good lord, if he is canned, Iowa should pay Kirk whatever it needs to get Kirk down the road. Ryan Day is a good coach.
Ryan Day would run Iowa Football into the ground.Good lord, if he is canned, Iowa should pay Kirk whatever it needs to get Kirk down the road. Ryan Day is a good coach.
???. I know that. I was simply saying the broadcast guys said the line was 23.5 not 20.5you don't have to follow them, that is where the betting line nets 50/50 wagering. Nothing more.
This sentence contradicts itself.Day can’t be blamed for the terrible qb play and bad kicking but it’s his responsibility as HC.
Is this the Nebbie board?If he doesn't make the Final 4 he's fired right?
you asked if Ward was the best guy THEY could get. Their NIL did not want to pay Cam Ward according to the rumors. I don't have direct evidence of this, but that was the word that Miami outbid them.Exactly, which is why he is responsible for their QB play....
No, I asked if Howard was the best guy they could get. He was okay at KSU but not sure they couldn't have done better, and thats without going back the last three years and looking at the QB's that have left OSU, and who's on their roster now. Would Rourke at Indiana, Brosmer at Minnesota, or Gabriel at Oregon have been better? They all transferred in this year, and OSU has the war chest supposedly. Basically is it Day's responsibility for their QB play. Yes he is....you asked if Ward was the best guy THEY could get. Their NIL did not want to pay Cam Ward according to the rumors. I don't have direct evidence of this, but that was the word that Miami outbid them.
Who left that would have been better than Howard? The only one I could say is Ewers, and there is no argument that OSU got the better of that with Stroud.No, I asked if Howard was the best guy they could get. He was okay at KSU but not sure they couldn't have done better, ad thats without going back the last three years and looking at the QB's that have left OSU, and who's on their roster now. Basically is it Day's responsibility for their QB play. Yes he is....
As I said I don't know. Would Gabriel at Oregon, Rourke at Indiana, or Brosmer at Minn. been better at OSU the Howard?Who left that would have been better than Howard? The only one I could say is Ewers, and there is no argument that OSU got the better of that with Stroud.
Has Ferentz won an outright Big Ten title ?All head coaches are. The difference is there are certain expectations that must be met at tOSU vs Iowa. Either you win at tOSU or you are gone for not winning B1G titles or playing for a national championship. Add in, beating Michigan.
At Iowa, KF has done a good job but hasn’t won a B1G title since 2004 and is in no jeopardy of losing his job or experienced any heat at all. I wish Iowa had pursued Kyle McCord after last season or Ty Thompson but KF was committed to Cade McNamara which proved to be a mistake. tOSU qb room is deep and good. Just amazed they thought Will Howard was the answer to their need.
They tried to land Gabriel and he turned them down, Brosmer and Rourke haven't really proven themselves, but maybe. I'll say they tried to get Gabriel and Ward, NIL failed them. Hell OSU was lucky to hang onto Smith after Miami made a late charge. I would say they should have turned to a backup QB at some point, and that is on Day.As I said I don't know. Would Gabriel at Oregon, Rourke at Indiana, or Brosmer at Minn. been better at OSU the Howard?
No, but 2002 is as close as can be claimed. No conference losses and no championship game.Has Ferentz won an outright Big Ten title ?