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SC denies Trump's petition to stop sentencing

He hasn't appealed the verdict yet haus. He cannot until he's sentenced.

Today he was trying to prevent Merchan sentencing him for the conviction by the jury.
It's also quite telling that Gus the Dimwit is very interested in how the appeal and the sentencing are handled, not that he's been found guilty and will be sentenced Friday of multiple felonies for covering up payment to multiple porn prostitutes to hide the sex he had with them. I'd be embarrassed about that if I was Gus the Dimwit.
 
The "Merchan verdict" - what are you talking about? The jury rendered the verdict, not Merchan. And remember, the jury was approved by both the prosecution and Trump's defens team. How about just accepting the fact that your guy is officially a convicted felon. And what an everlasting legacy for Trump - the first convicted felon to serve as president!
Don't forget, the first convicted felon AND the first confirmed sexual abuser. He's got a two-fer going on his crimes!
 
I know he was convicted by the jury. You missed my point.

He can appeal the conviction and if he wins on appeal he isn't a convicted felon That's what I meant when I said ‘Because if he isn't convicted he isn't a convicted felon.’ in answer to your question I replied to In addition to the rest I said.

If his convictions are so sure to be overturned and his sentencing is such a good thing so that can happen, why has he fought tooth and nail to keep it from happening?’

Right now he is a convicted felon. If he wins on appeal he is no longer a convicted felon. Make sense? A prior conviction overturned on appeal is no longer a conviction. But yes it is one now. Even before sentencing.

But……He cannot appeal the conviction to the appeals court until he is sentenced. That is why that part matters.

More to come.
 
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Here is your original post before you tried to edit away your stupidity. FTR.

‘He's already been convicted dimwit, read the news, listen to the news, that's what the judge did after the trial... they convicted him of 34 felonies and he's going to be sentenced tomorrow. You're telling me he's going to be sentenced for something he wasn't convicted of? Again, how stupid are you? What do you think they were appealing? Conviction.”

Wrong. Go away. You're not up to this.
 
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Here is your original post before you tried to edit away your stupidity. FTR.

‘He's already been convicted dimwit, read the news, listen to the news, that's what the judge did after the trial... they convicted him of 34 felonies and he's going to be sentenced tomorrow. You're telling me he's going to be sentenced for something he wasn't convicted of? Again, how stupid are you? What do you think they were appealing? Conviction.”

Wrong. Go away. You're not up to this.
Why do you carry so much water for Trump? The guy is a douchbag. He is old as dirt. He has lied, cheated and schemed his entire life. He was handed his wealth from the work of others.

I can at least kind of understand why someone would vote for his policies while acknowledging what a POS he is (I mean they are dumbf*ck policies…but hey we are a nation of dumbf*cks so it is sort of understandable). But to support him beyond that? I just don’t get it. He is a pathetic conman and yet here you are gobbling his dick in post after post as if he will actually do something for you. You are nothing to him and your life won’t be remarkably better as a result of his presidency. Why the cult-like support for a dirtbag?

I guess you get to claim a victory over the libtards…so there’s that I suppose. If that is truly so important to you I suggest you seriously examine your priorities.
 
You still haven't answered my question counselor.

Did you, or did you not, imply that Fran wasn't playing Thelwell against Nebraska because he was black? Instead of the real reason, he was injured. You have an aversion to facts it seems.

Next, I am recently convinced that you're a legal lightweight. There is zero chance that the Trump verdict isn't ultimately reversed on appeal if it is heard. Zero. I'll bet you an entire month of posting if you're willing. Frankly, I don't care if you are an attorney. Any attorney that thinks that the Merchan verdict and trial wasn't full, being fair, potentially of reversible error isn't being honest. But you're an attorney so no real surprise there. Not exactly a profession known for character or candor.
Jesus, you are dumb. Every post reads like it was written by a seventh grader.
 
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Why do you carry so much water for Trump? The guy is a douchbag. He is old as dirt. He has lied, cheated and schemed his entire life. He was handed his wealth from the work of others.

I can at least kind of understand why someone would vote for his policies while acknowledging what a POS he is (I mean they are dumbf*ck policies…but hey we are a nation of dumbf*cks so it is sort of understandable). But to support him beyond that? I just don’t get it. He is a pathetic conman and yet here you are gobbling his dick in post after post as if he will actually do something for you. You are nothing to him and your life won’t be remarkably better as a result of his presidency. Why the cult-like support for a dirtbag?

I guess you get to claim a victory over the libtards…so there’s that I suppose. If that is truly so important to you I suggest you seriously examine your priorities.
Because I am a purveyor of facts. People on here seem to feel they are entitled to their own truth. When I am confronted with posts that don't get it, state things that are untrue or outright lies it pisses me off. Sabula had zero idea what he was talking about.

Sure, Trump and my politics agree. But I also know that he has been persecuted, prosecuted, lied about, attacked, accused of treason and all sorts of things and this is simply because he has won. Unfairly targeted IMO. You may disagree. You are entitled to that for sure. I also know that a majority of 2024 voters voted him President and so many leftists on here hate every one of them, Their fellow Americans. Neighbors. Family. When over half of those that voted in 2024 voted for him, there is a pretty good chance those people are your doctor, pastor, daycare provider, banker, mechanic etc. Are they all 'gobbling his dick'? I think not.

It wasn't that long ago oh so many in the liberal intelligentsia told us he'd never be President. Yet he was, and will be again. The left hates him. HATES him. This has caused them to do, and say, almost anything to discredit him. Up to an including things that politicians on the left have also done, or have been accused of, yet no truly similar investigations or prosecutions have occurred. From Biden classified data handling, family corruption, to Hillary to Hunter and on and on.

I am for fairness and facts. Period.

Is Trump a narcissist? Yes. Is he slimy especially in respect to women? Yes. Would I want him in my family? Probably not. But I do think, perhaps sadly, that we can have such a person as President successfully. In fact, Id suggest the mere fact one runs for President requires a bit of narcissism. Just look at Obama. Dude thinks he is all the f that. He just happens to be a whole lot smoother. That is the only difference IMO. Both are soaking in self love.
 
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Jesus, you are dumb. Every post reads like it was written by a seventh grader.
Yeah sure Huey. If you don't mind, I'll take that opinion for what it's worth. I mean, just read your post. Is that seriously the best you can do?
 
Gus seems like the type to shoot up an elementary school or synagogue
And you seem like the type to ask someone to give up their seat and move to the back of the bus so you can sit amongst your people up front. You know, the ones that 'look like you'.
 
I don't worship any man. He wasn't convicted of rape and his 'felony' convictions are certain to be overturned. This trial was fraught with errors and will soon be proved as such. In fact, I'm glad he gets sentenced so he can appeal it.

You certainly can see that the way the crime in this case was turned into a felony was created from whole cloth? If you can't see that that decision or strategy is questionable you and I can't discuss this like men.
You should talk to your therapist about your hero worship of a rapist and convicted felon. You have some issues to work out.
 
Oh look another mouth breather that doesn’t understand basic legal concepts. BAU. Fear not dim one. If the classified documents case ever gets to see its day in court, the Dumb One’s status as a convicted felon will be undeniable, even to you, because that will be a slam dunk.
 
Prediction: he'll win on appeal. This is going nowhere, even if it's a fun talking point for a while.
 
Because I am a purveyor of facts. People on here seem to feel they are entitled to their own truth. When I am confronted with posts that don't get it, state things that are untrue or outright lies it pisses me off. Sabula had zero idea what he was talking about.

Sure, Trump and my politics agree. But I also know that he has been persecuted, prosecuted, lied about, attacked, accused of treason and all sorts of things and this is simply because he has won. Unfairly targeted IMO. You may disagree. You are entitled to that for sure. I also know that a majority of 2024 voters voted him President and so many leftists on here hate every one of them, Their fellow Americans. Neighbors. Family. When over half of those that voted in 2024 voted for him, there is a pretty good chance those people are your doctor, pastor, daycare provider, banker, mechanic etc. Are they all 'gobbling his dick'? I think not.

It wasn't that long ago oh so many in the liberal intelligentsia told us he'd never be President. Yet he was, and will be again. The left hates him. HATES him. This has caused them to do, and say, almost anything to discredit him. Up to an including things that politicians on the left have also done, or have been accused of, yet no truly similar investigations or prosecutions have occurred. From Biden classified data handling, family corruption, to Hillary to Hunter and on and on.

I am for fairness and facts. Period.

Is Trump a narcissist? Yes. Is he slimy especially in respect to women? Yes. Would I want him in my family? Probably not. But I do think, perhaps sadly, that we can have such a person as President successfully. In fact, Id suggest the mere fact one runs for President requires a bit of narcissism. Just look at Obama. Dude thinks he is all the f that. He just happens to be a whole lot smoother. That is the only difference IMO. Both are soaking in self love.
First thanks for the well intentioned response - I disagree with much of what you wrote (your point on narcissism is spot on), but appreciate that you did so without much snark - gave you a like for your effort.

Second, I appreciate you want facts, but many of your posts are factually incorrect. So I’m left to think that you have fallen prey to the same issue you are charging the leftists with. You are seeing what you want to see - I suppose because of the types of media you consume and a bit of cognitive bias based on your conservative leanings.
 
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Gus seems like the type to shoot up an elementary school or synagogue
I take some solace that as long as he/they, and a few others, are figuratively shooting this place up they aren't out killing kids or shooting up a shopping mall.
 
Because I am a purveyor of facts. People on here seem to feel they are entitled to their own truth. When I am confronted with posts that don't get it, state things that are untrue or outright lies it pisses me off. Sabula had zero idea what he was talking about.

Sure, Trump and my politics agree. But I also know that he has been persecuted, prosecuted, lied about, attacked, accused of treason and all sorts of things and this is simply because he has won. Unfairly targeted IMO. You may disagree. You are entitled to that for sure. I also know that a majority of 2024 voters voted him President and so many leftists on here hate every one of them, Their fellow Americans. Neighbors. Family. When over half of those that voted in 2024 voted for him, there is a pretty good chance those people are your doctor, pastor, daycare provider, banker, mechanic etc. Are they all 'gobbling his dick'? I think not.

It wasn't that long ago oh so many in the liberal intelligentsia told us he'd never be President. Yet he was, and will be again. The left hates him. HATES him. This has caused them to do, and say, almost anything to discredit him. Up to an including things that politicians on the left have also done, or have been accused of, yet no truly similar investigations or prosecutions have occurred. From Biden classified data handling, family corruption, to Hillary to Hunter and on and on.

I am for fairness and facts. Period.

Is Trump a narcissist? Yes. Is he slimy especially in respect to women? Yes. Would I want him in my family? Probably not. But I do think, perhaps sadly, that we can have such a person as President successfully. In fact, Id suggest the mere fact one runs for President requires a bit of narcissism. Just look at Obama. Dude thinks he is all the f that. He just happens to be a whole lot smoother. That is the only difference IMO. Both are soaking in self love.
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Prediction: he'll win on appeal. This is going nowhere, even if it's a fun talking point for a while.
He might win on appeal purely because he is the POTUS. Legally he's a loser. Losers commit fraud and get convicted for it.
 
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Dipshit @sabula was making factually untrue statements. Saying Trump had already appealed the conviction etc. You'd need to read those posts if you haven't. He did realize his error, that I replied to, and edited his factually incorrect post but still made untrue statements.

Certain things are subject to opinion. Others are not. The SCOUTS ruling yesterday had nothing to do with Trump appealing his conviction he was merely appealing the decision of the NYSC not halt his sentencing. Trump asked the SCOTUS to halt stay the sentencing. Yet post after post @sabula claimed I didn't know what I was talking about. Maddening.

You can disagree with things subject to opinion. I certainly have.

If you can point to a factual falsehood I have written I'll look into it and correct it if warranted. Good luck.
 
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Because I am a purveyor of facts. People on here seem to feel they are entitled to their own truth. When I am confronted with posts that don't get it, state things that are untrue or outright lies it pisses me off. Sabula had zero idea what he was talking about.

Sure, Trump and my politics agree. But I also know that he has been persecuted, prosecuted, lied about, attacked, accused of treason and all sorts of things and this is simply because he has won. Unfairly targeted IMO. You may disagree. You are entitled to that for sure. I also know that a majority of 2024 voters voted him President and so many leftists on here hate every one of them, Their fellow Americans. Neighbors. Family. When over half of those that voted in 2024 voted for him, there is a pretty good chance those people are your doctor, pastor, daycare provider, banker, mechanic etc. Are they all 'gobbling his dick'? I think not.

It wasn't that long ago oh so many in the liberal intelligentsia told us he'd never be President. Yet he was, and will be again. The left hates him. HATES him. This has caused them to do, and say, almost anything to discredit him. Up to an including things that politicians on the left have also done, or have been accused of, yet no truly similar investigations or prosecutions have occurred. From Biden classified data handling, family corruption, to Hillary to Hunter and on and on.

I am for fairness and facts. Period.

Is Trump a narcissist? Yes. Is he slimy especially in respect to women? Yes. Would I want him in my family? Probably not. But I do think, perhaps sadly, that we can have such a person as President successfully. In fact, Id suggest the mere fact one runs for President requires a bit of narcissism. Just look at Obama. Dude thinks he is all the f that. He just happens to be a whole lot smoother. That is the only difference IMO. Both are soaking in self love.
obvious lie, you like facts. Trump has lied more than any president ever. That is an indisputable fact. The sheer volume is unmatched.
That is what you like. Don't confuse that by calling yourself a lover of facts.
 
From the article:

There are a number of possible grounds for an appeal of the case, but it will likely be difficult to overturn the ruling, legal experts told ABC News.
I disagree. Other have disagreed as well. Here are more, but on the record, unlike the 'legal experts' referenced above. Anonymous sources can't or shouldn't count as actual opinion. This is often, in my experience, the reporter himself or herself adding opinion to what should be a fact piece. Like the oft used 'some people say' primer to a question.

Highlighted below. The Canadian White Knight pummels the reporter:



But I digress. Back to the topic....

“There’s a very good chance this could be reversed” Jonathan Turley

Source link:

Jonathan Turley Criticizes New York Court’s Handling Of Trump Case, Predicts Appeal

 
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I disagree. Other have disagreed as well. Here are more, but on the record, unlike the 'legal experts' referenced above. Anonymous sources can't or shouldn't count as actual opinion. This is often, in my experience, the reporter himself or herself adding opinion to what should be a fact piece. Like the oft used 'some people say' primer to a question.

Highlighted below. The Canadian White Knight pummels the reporter:



But I digress. Back to the topic....

“There’s a very good chance this could be reversed” Jonathan Turley

Source link:

Jonathan Turley Criticizes New York Court’s Handling Of Trump Case, Predicts Appeal

LOL!

Jonathan Turley!
 
Dipshit @sabula was making factually untrue statements. Saying Trump had already appealed the conviction etc. You'd need to read those posts if you haven't. He did realize his error, that I replied to, and edited his factually incorrect post but still made untrue statements.

Certain things are subject to opinion. Others are not. The SCOUTS ruling yesterday had nothing to do with Trump appealing his conviction he was merely appealing the decision of the NYSC not halt his sentencing. Trump asked the SCOTUS to halt stay the sentencing. Yet post after post @sabula claimed I didn't know what I was talking about. Maddening.

You can disagree with things subject to opinion. I certainly have.

If you can point to a factual falsehood I have written I'll look into it and correct it if warranted. Good luck.
The truth? Convicted felon. Confirmed sexual abuser. There's your truth dipwad. Wonderful man you adore there.
 
The truth? Convicted felon. Confirmed sexual abuser. There's your truth dipwad. Wonderful man you adore there.
I adore my wife and kids. Not a President.

However, you hate him so much you can taste it. You ever have any intrusive thoughts of harming others? Do you wish him or others dead?
 
Prediction: he'll win on appeal. This is going nowhere, even if it's a fun talking point for a while.

Won't matter,.. Convicted or not, Trump will always carry the "convicted felon" tag with the left...
 
I disagree. Other have disagreed as well. Here are more, but on the record, unlike the 'legal experts' referenced above. Anonymous sources can't or shouldn't count as actual opinion. This is often, in my experience, the reporter himself or herself adding opinion to what should be a fact piece. Like the oft used 'some people say' primer to a question.

Highlighted below. The Canadian White Knight pummels the reporter:



But I digress. Back to the topic....

“There’s a very good chance this could be reversed” Jonathan Turley

Source link:

Jonathan Turley Criticizes New York Court’s Handling Of Trump Case, Predicts Appeal

What grounds do you think this should be reversed?
 
If his convictions are so sure to be overturned and his sentencing is such a good thing so that can happen, why has he fought tooth and nail to keep it from happening?
What would you do if you were in his shoes? Accept a BS trial? Can you name the additional factor that turned the expired misdemeanors into a felony? Please cite the jury instructions for the added crime.

This was, by far, the worst government case of the 4 Trump was fighting. If the crime was so egregious, why is there no penalty?

And for all of the legal scholars out there, the SCOTUS ruling wasn't about the merits. They don't want to rule on something having no penalty until it goes through the federal court system on appeal. That will likely take 2 - 3 years.
 
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He was convicted months ago. He is a convicted felon. Only Trump has people lining up to shout from the rooftops he isn't convicted after a jury finds him guilty of a crime. I don't care at all about semantics on whether or not a particular state calls them a felon before or after sentencing. A guilty verdict means you are convicted.

Just for shits and giggles, here is what AI has to say on the matter:

AI Overview
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Yes, a guilty verdict in New York State is considered a conviction before sentencing. The judge will sentence the defendant after a guilty verdict, whether the conviction came from a trial or a guilty plea.

Explanation
  • A guilty verdict means the defendant is convicted of a crime.

  • The judge will then sentence the defendant, which is the punishment for the crime.

  • The judge can consider many factors when determining the sentence, including the defendant's criminal history.

  • The judge can impose many types of sentences, including incarceration, probation, fines, community service, and more.
Your post is factually and legally incorrect per NY law. Your AI source is worth what you paid for it.

It doesn't matter now because the judge has imposed the sentence.
 
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