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SC denies Trump's petition to stop sentencing

What would you do if you were in his shoes? Accept a BS trial? Can you name the additional factor that turned the expired misdemeanors into a felony? Please cite the jury instructions for the added crime.

This was, by far, the worst government case of the 4 Trump was fighting. If the crime was so egregious, why is there no penalty?

And for all of the legal scholars out there, the SCOTUS ruling wasn't about the merits. They don't want to rule on something having no penalty until it goes through the federal court system on appeal. That will likely take 2 - 3 years.

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Do you think he made hush money payments to porn stars?
Yes.
Do you think he concealed those payments to protect his image and candidacy?
No. I believe he paid her hush money to protect himself from Melania. I dont think he falsely recorded the entries in the ledger. What he he supposed to put? Hush money? Next, he didn't make those ledger entries. Slime ball Cohen did.

This crime was turned magically into a felony from a misdemeanor. That is the 'crime'.
 
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I adore my wife and kids. Not a President.

However, you hate him so much you can taste it. You ever have any intrusive thoughts of harming others? Do you wish him or others dead?
You, not me, adore a multiple convicted felon and confirmed sexual abuser. You gotta live with the world seeing that. Not me.
 
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Yes.

No. I believe he paid her hush money to protect himself from Melania. I dont think he falsely recorder the entries in the ledger. What he he supposed to put? Hush money? Next, he didn't make those ledger entries. Slime ball Cohen did.

This crime was turned magically into a felony from a misdemeanor. That is the 'crime'.
LOL - the money shouldn't have come from a campaign account then.

You're a rube if you think the only reason he had the books cooked was to keep Melania from finding out.

You prove again that Trump supporters have no basis of argument against the crimes being committed.

At least you do acknowledge that Trump committed 34 crimes of false financial accounting. Explain why that, by itself, doesn't negate your support.
 
LOL - the money shouldn't have come from a campaign account then.

You're a rube if you think the only reason he had the books cooked was to keep Melania from finding out.

You prove again that Trump supporters have no basis of argument against the crimes being committed.

At least you do acknowledge that Trump committed 34 crimes of false financial accounting. Explain why that, by itself, doesn't negate your support.
And he committed those financial crimes to cover up his disgusting actions with a porno prostitute so the world wouldn't find out his wife cheating ways. Pretty much a double whammy of disgusting and criminal actions. Felon and sexual abuser president... so sad.
 
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I don't worship any man. He wasn't convicted of rape and his 'felony' convictions are certain to be overturned. This trial was fraught with errors and will soon be proved as such. In fact, I'm glad he gets sentenced so he can appeal it.

You certainly can see that the way the crime in this case was turned into a felony was created from whole cloth? If you can't see that that decision or strategy is questionable you and I can't discuss this like men.

Why are you so certain the conviction will be overturned?
 
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Why are you so certain the conviction will be overturned?
Cause that's the only slim thread the supporters of the felon have to clutch to. Can't argue he didn't screw the porno prostitute or try to hide the money used for it.
 
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Seems anticlimactic

Trump sentenced: President-elect Donald Trumphas been sentenced to unconditional discharge forhis conviction last year on 34 charges of business fraud related to hush money payment to Stormy Daniels during the 2016 presidential campaign.

• What the sentence means: Unconditional discharge means Trump will not be imprisoned, fined or face probation, but his conviction still stands, and he will enter office as a convicted felon. Prosecutors had recommended the sentence, saying in court Friday, “we must be respectful of the office of the presidency” and Trump’s pending inauguration.

 
Or as a confirmed sexual abuser. McD has standards.
Imagine being a father and your daughter brings home a convicted felon who was found liable for sexual assault and also found liable for financial fraud. And has kids from three different women and cheated on all of them. You would kick that douche out of your house immediately.
 
Imagine being a father and your daughter brings home a convicted felon who was found liable for sexual assault and also found liable for financial fraud. And has kids from three different women and cheated on all of them. You would kick that douche out of your house immediately.
The maga crowd would love him. Birds of a feather and all.
 
Imagine being a father and your daughter brings home a convicted felon who was found liable for sexual assault and also found liable for financial fraud. And has kids from three different women and cheated on all of them. You would kick that douche out of your house immediately.

...but now imagine you're a Republican...
 
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None. The only thing that comes of this is the headline and the "stain" on his legacy. That's part of the reason I think he'll pursue having it expunged. He's smart enough to know the history books will make that a key point if he allows it to stand.
Are you sure about this?
 
From his campaign fund, which constitutes an in-kind donation and is a crime. I'm sorry you don't get it but them's the rules dork.
Uh no. It wasn't from his campaign funds. It was paid by the Trump Organization. Whether this payment could be counted as a campaign expenditure is what is debated. So being generous to you, your claims are false at worst, debatable at best.

Sorry you dont get it.

"Former FEC chair Bradley Smith told us he sees evidence from Daniels that places this outside the realm of the campaign."

 
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You can't even get a job at McDonalds as a convicted felon. But somehow the highest office in the land is ok?
Because the felony charges were BS. Voters know this.

You know who doesn't? Leftists. You all are going to continue to make the same mistakes over and over and lose elections over and over.

Majorities:
Senate. House. Presidency. SCOTUS. Governorships. Repeat it. Over and over until it sinks in.
 
Because the felony charges were BS. Voters know this.

You know who doesn't? Leftists. You all are going to continue to make the same mistakes over and over and lose elections over and over.

Majorities:
Senate. House. Presidency. SCOTUS. Governorships. Repeat it. Over and over until it sinks in.

I haven’t paid as much attention to this case as you have. What are the grounds to overturn the conviction?
 
Numerous. Rather than type them myself I'll refer you to my legal department.


 
Numerous. Rather than type them myself I'll refer you to my legal department.


And none of those are "he didn't do it". LOL at your lame defense.
 
And none of those are "he didn't do it". LOL at your lame defense.
IMO he didn't do it. He paid hush money. He is allowed to. This prosecution was rejected by the DOJ, prior NY DA's etc.

Merchan was able to engineer a conviction so hats off to him. But this will be reversed. It's only a matter of time. I respect the jury's decision as Merchan really left them no choice. But ultimately, all cases can be appealed if grounds exist. That will tell the true tale.

The only thing that will matter once it is, is that it was reversed. At least to normal people. You will still refer to him as a convicted felon no matter the facts because when he is, you will question the legitimacy of that court but find legitimacy in this one. Weird.
 
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What would you do if you were in his shoes? Accept a BS trial? Can you name the additional factor that turned the expired misdemeanors into a felony? Please cite the jury instructions for the added crime.

This was, by far, the worst government case of the 4 Trump was fighting. If the crime was so egregious, why is there no penalty?

And for all of the legal scholars out there, the SCOTUS ruling wasn't about the merits. They don't want to rule on something having no penalty until it goes through the federal court system on appeal. That will likely take 2 - 3 years.
I can't be the only person that finds it hilarious that someone with the word "finance", in their handle doesn't understand you can't use business funds to pay off a woman you cheated on your wife with, tell your subordinates to lie and call it legal fees, and coordinate extra payments to cover the taxes the guy who paid the hush money incurred.
Is that standard high level business guy finance now?
 
And yet The Dimwits couldn't beat him. What does that say about you? Oh right, it's the majority of the country's fault.
 
IMO he didn't do it. He paid hush money. He is allowed to. This prosecution was rejected by the DOJ, prior NY DA's etc.

Merchan was able to engineer a conviction so hats off to him. But this will be reversed. It's only a matter of time. I respect the jury's decision as Merchan really left them no choice. But ultimately, all cases can be appealed if grounds exist. That will tell the true tale.

The only thing that will matter once it is, is that it was reversed. At least to normal people. You will still refer to him as a convicted felon no matter the facts because when he is, you will question the legitimacy of that court but find legitimacy in this one. Weird.
That's more lame than previous. I didn't think you could, but you topped your own idiocy.

So you have no issue with a presidential candidate paying hush money and then covering it up?

You are exactly who Trump was talking about.
 
Good for you. I am surprised that Trump appealed.
The lead is buried in this house testimony, but if the "expert" being questioned here is correct...appeal is kind of a no brainer. I hadn't seen this before I said what I said, but it aligns:

 
That's more lame than previous. I didn't think you could, but you topped your own idiocy.

So you have no issue with a presidential candidate paying hush money and then covering it up?

You are exactly who Trump was talking about.
No I do not take issue with paying hush money. What did you want him to list it as? Hush money? I don't see the cover up. I do see his desire to keep things from coming out, true or not, that would upset his wife.

I do take issue with taking millions of dollars from foreign concerns particularly those that are enemies of the US. That seems way more worthy of investigation and prosecution to me.
 
No I do not take issue with paying hush money. What did you want him to list it as? Hush money? I don't see the cover up. I do see his desire to keep things from coming out, true or not, that would upset his wife.

I do take issue with taking millions of dollars from foreign concerns particularly those that are enemies of the US. That seems way more worthy of investigation and prosecution to me.
It's easier to say you are okay that Trump broke the law. Actually, you did just say that.
 
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