Should Iowa public schools be FORCED to allow private school kids to participate in their extracurriculars and sports?
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$2900 per kid per year or whatever we pay to cover their public school taxpayer scholarship.
There are some weird voucher rules, but I’ve been here 18 years and certainly haven’t seen anything here remotely like what’s going on in Iowa, so that certainly changes the equation. I was just pointing out that the mechanism is the same…..but it’s clear what the legislature in Iowa is doing.
I’ll also add that most of the private schools out here are way more Dowling-like than those small private schools that don’t have much to offer. The kids around here I know using those rules are mostly in small, public, specialty magnet schools vs. private/charter. One of my youngest’s baseball teammates is at a language immersion school that is straight academics, so he gets to try out to play ball at the neighborhood middle school.
Seems vindictive. I thought you were about the kids.
They paid their own way to mater dei. Not my tax dollars.
I don’t think private school kids should be able to play for free….a reasonable fee seems fair.
Don’t see why the kids should be punished.
Yeah, in the 80’s they just gave it all to the public schools so the private schools didn’t have money for sports teams and had to play with the public schools. 😉
FWIW, I don’t really care about the topic as my kids will go to the small public school in my town. My brothers kids do go to Cedar Rapids Xavier but he has plenty of money to pay for them to go there. Plus I don’t think Xavier kids share any sports with the public schools but I could be wrong. I know they have a football, basketball and baseball team which is all they care about.
Wait, wait let me play the stupid left game for once. It’s only a little bit of money and only a few kids at private schools that have to play sports at public schools so why is it such a big deal.
Playing right into the left playbook.
This shit, private school kids participating in public school events, is already occurring.
I believe a girl that is home schooled near Mid Prairie, Wellman, won State cross country multiple times a couple years ago.
Could be wrong on some details.
I believe a girl that is home schooled near Mid Prairie, Wellman, won State cross country multiple times a couple years ago.
Could be wrong on some details.
Honest to goodness, I coach high school sports and I had no idea this wasn't already a rule. I've never heard of a kid being denied an opportunity to play as long as their school doesn't have enough to participate on their own.
One man's "punished" is another's difficult budgetary decision.
It would be irresponsible for an administrator to accept potential higher unnecessary costs while their year-to-year resources have been placed in doubt by recent education reforms and the reality of a shrinking student base.
That’s why I think they should pay a fee. If you already have a football team a private school kid paying a fee would actually help financially.
Sure, but that's not the solution being put forth by the ruling party, nor does it address the underlying budgetary issues.
The state doesn't just give money to public schools, there are strings attached which private schools don't have to meet.
More students participating in athletics at a public school means more equipment needs, more staff needs, more transportation needs, BEDS concerns, insurance costs, etc. It's not free.
A law for this isn’t needed. It’s already allowed and has been happening for years. Kids from private schools play tennis, bowling, swimming, etc., at the area public schools when those activities aren’t offered.
If a public school didn’t want to allow it, that’s fine. Those kids would just pick a different public school that does allow it, or transfer to that public school if it’s important enough to them.
If a public school didn’t want to allow it, that’s fine. Those kids would just pick a different public school that does allow it, or transfer to that public school if it’s important enough to them.
I be curious how many kids at a private school in Iowa are playing sports at a public school. I don’t know of any private high schools where this is the case. Then again I don’t pay that much attention to private schools.
City High would certainly have fewer State Champions without private school students.
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Lol. You hypocrites think it's fair for these families to pay property taxes to support your shitty public schools then have to pay for their own kids' private education as well.
As long as we're throwing out crazy ideas in this thread is there any way we can pass a law allowing a person to waive their voting rights in exchange for becoming 100% tax exempt?
Cuz I'd be all over that shit.
I have no idea and I'm not opposed to them being able to participate. My disagreement is with the state requiring public schools to take additional athletes when asked. Public schools should be able to refuse additional student athletes if it is in their district's best interest.
I agree with this by the way. In most cases it is in the best interest of the public school to accept them. Where it is not, they shouldn’t be forced to do so.
The homeschooled kids in our area got to play sports at our school. Only 1 was good enough to actually play, though. Dude was a beast. Pretty sure he was illiterate but could do like 40 pull ups.
Pretty sure you are correct about the XC runner. But why does it matter if private/home schooled kids get to participate with public school kids?
There is nothing wrong with that. I assume City High was happy to welcome the additional athletes, the issue is should public schools be forced to do so. Would you be OK with your private school being required to take athletes from a nearby small school that no longer could afford to offer a certain extra curricular activity?
The governor wanted school choice. Schools choosing to offer more programs than private schools are offering their students a stronger educational experience. Current private school in our town doesn’t have music or sports. Parents have the right to choose what experience is best for their kids. Seems this is what the governor wanted. Schools offering a program to keep their students and even attract others.
Exactly. Guessing it more so happens in a smaller community where the public school doesn’t care because they have enough money anyway and are glad to have another kid on the team.
The public schools in the bigger cities are the ones hurting with the voucher system but the private schools in bigger cities have their own sports teams.
Seems like a lot of bitching about nothing.
This is the way. If the state education system is going to be run based on have and have-not communities then so should extra curricular activities. Both way will ultimately cause major damage to small rural districts, with one being a faster track.
Should a small school have to take kids that open enroll that bumps them up a class in sports? Happen to my school my junior and senior year. We both teams that were a class above us in non district play and would have stream rolled the class below us that we should have been in. Instead we got put in a district with aplington Parkersburg back in their hay day. 20+ years later, does it really fvcking matter, it’s high school sports.
Maybe, unless your school district is the one being forced to take on addition expense and responsibility. If it's not a problem, why are Iowa Republicans considering it?
It doesn't really, unless they don't think they can afford it and you'd have to read a lot of school board meeting minutes to know all about that.
School boards can either accept or deny any individual's open enrollment. Jumping up from 8 man to 11 man football can add considerable cost to the district.
