Should Iowa public schools be FORCED to allow private school kids to participate in their extracurriculars and sports?
- Thread starter torbee
- Start date
NOPE. Take it up with the dipshit Republicans in the Iowa government who have destroyed this state.
Bellevue. Private school will be allowed to play football with the public school this coming year also.
Are you sure? No transportation costs or umpire/refs or a straight up payment. Bellevue also shares sports with Maquoketa.
Bellevue went to Maquoketa for softball last year. Going to Marquette Catholic this coming year. Easton Valley has been playing softball at Marquette the last few years, not sure if that’s ending or both are going to play with Marquette.
Yes. These schools have come to an agreement that is beneficial for both. One school is not paying for the other (Bellevue is not receiving funding from Marquette for football). I think that was the topic of discuss.
All of that money goes to categoricals: PD, TSS, and TLC. Not a cent of it can be spent on infrastructure, transportation, or extracurriculars.But they do get funding for that student (approximately $1,205 per student). Certainly enough to cover the costs to accept the kid into that sport.
Iowa is now paying for more than 27,000 students to attend private schools. Here's why:
This is the final year of the ESA program's income restrictions. Next year, the program will be open to all Iowa families, regardless of wealth.www.desmoinesregister.com
So no, that's certainly not enough to cover the cost of accepting the kid to play a sport.
Last edited:
But that doesn’t align with their argument. Only private kids are getting tax dollars and only private kids are playing at public schools.
Our local public school operates like this:
1. A home school or private student in grades k-8 may participate in any extracurricular at our K-8 programs.
2. A student who wishes to participate in HS activities must be enrolled at least half time and follow all academic and behavioral rules.
We are a bit unique in our area (in Indiana) but it has served us well. While we disagree with the voucher system in our state, we believe it is in the best interest of our community to operate this way.
Public school students from other districts can’t participate at any level.
1. A home school or private student in grades k-8 may participate in any extracurricular at our K-8 programs.
2. A student who wishes to participate in HS activities must be enrolled at least half time and follow all academic and behavioral rules.
We are a bit unique in our area (in Indiana) but it has served us well. While we disagree with the voucher system in our state, we believe it is in the best interest of our community to operate this way.
Public school students from other districts can’t participate at any level.
I already answered that. My original post said it "can" add considerable costs, I didn't say it always would add considerable costs. Every school district has a different financial situation, it should be up to them whether they willingly take on additional responsibility.
In Iowa sometimes public schools combine for sports only, does that not happen in Indiana? My old school has their own teams for everything, but wrestling which they offer in conjunction with a neighboring school district.
Not always. The home schooled state champion XC runner and DI athlete was kicked off the public high school team his senior season because he didn't want to listen to his coach. He had his own personal running coach and refused to work out with the team. HS Coach sent him packing and cut him. Guy couldn't compete his senior season anymore other than national, open meets. Some of these kids are entitled pain in the asses with no social skills.
I don’t know of any who do. I’m not even sure the state athletic association has rules addressing it.
In non-sports activities it does happen.
Exactly, part of parental choice should be if they want their kid to play in organized sports. If it's important enough then they'll choose the public schools. If the education in private is so much better then they can forgo sports. Seems to ring true with the fundamentals of choice.
You didn’t answer it. You said having more kids can add equipment expense. You never explained how changing a class size can add extra expense. In fact I’m the one who mentioned it could cost more in paint to paint a bigger field. You never once mentioned how it can cost more moving from 8 man to 11 man football.
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you. Sorry you missed the point.
Exactly, it doesn’t cost a school any more money to play 11 man class A football than it does 8 man football with 1 or 2 extra kids.
"Some of these kids are entitled pain in the asses with no social skills."
That's not confined to just homeschoolers.
Why would it be only 1 or 2 extra kids? I they allow private school A to play football at public school B all high school students at private A could choose to play football for public school B.
The point is that the public school is receiving tax dollars for that kid.
And if private school A doesn’t have an athletic program and we are talking about a public school playing 8 man football. I’m guessing it won’t be too many additional kids added to the football team. Nevertheless, you continue to avoid telling me why changing a class size from 8 man to 11 man costs more. You don’t pay a fee to be a certain size school in athletics or any extra curricular activity.
The cost to outfit a football player is probably over $1000 per player. Eleven man football also means more coaches. Your guess of how many additional athletes they would be responsible for is just that, a guess. Small school budgets are tight and every dollar matters.
Haha you just keep avoiding the question that you stated. And as I mentioned, most schools already have equipment each year that isn’t used. But yea I guess if 5-10 additional kids are added to the team, that would increase expenses but not because they are now in a different class like you claimed.
Most of the increased cost would have to do with more players. There is also a possibility that transportation costs would increase due to changing districts and classes.
You are never going to agree with me no matter how many possible cost increases I point out. I'm done, you can pat yourself on the back for believing you are right.
And none of that money covers the increased cost of the kid participating in the sport, which was your whole point and the point of the entire thread.
Get the students to read and do math at grade level and they would earn more respect.
You don't approve of tax dollars paying for private education yet you defended Biden's tax payer college loan payoff scam, weird.
Several years ago in my hometown the parochial school did not offer football. Before one season, the schools held a joint meeting about allowing the private school kids to participate with the “public school.” There was a large contingent of private school kids who attended and had a strong desire to play football. I think their parents were surprised to see such strong interest. The private school offered football to its students a year later. (Suddenly $$ was not an issue!)
My Iowa hometown allowed kids from the Catholic school to compete in football, wrestling and swimming for years because the Catholics didn't offer those sports. This has been the case for more than 30 years. About a decade ago, the public school had one season where they only had a handful of girls out for softball, so they asked if the girls from public could play that summer at the Catholic school under their colors. A bunch of the Catholic school parents with daughters on the team had a fit and so the private school told public to kick rocks.
The public school in the end took the high road and continues to let their kids come over and play for their teams today.
Last edited:
We had guys that wrestled for Waukee when Van Meter didn't have a program.
I think public schools kids going to another public school for a sport they don’t have access to is fine.
When a private school kids does it, I think a fee should be paid. They get plenty of free money now in Iowa because of that stupid voucher system.
When a private school kids does it, I think a fee should be paid. They get plenty of free money now in Iowa because of that stupid voucher system.
Which are all provided by the public school.
My girls went to an all-girls Catholic High School in Seattle. That was a choice and if you choose a school without sports that's on you.
Schools will pop up with no intention of having sports teams.
If I were a public school coach those kids would never see the field as they would be an affront to my livelihood.
Latest posts
-
Who Could Be Iowa MBB's Next Commit? + Two Priority Visitors Scheduled- Latest: chesapeake bay dog
-
-
-
-