I want to simply go into the Medicare law and remove the age 65 requirement. But I'm not King yet. In a democracy, you must please a lot of stake holders. To do that you get very complex laws that bribe them. The tyranny you unwittingly support is certainly more efficient, but I'll happily deal with complexity to avoid it.
You say that like you have multiple historical examples to support this. I would like to hear them please.
The Roman Republic was never a democracy, it was always an oligarchic republic, so that would seem to shift your complaints on to that form of government. Athens lost because it lost a war. You're not off to a great start. Why don't you break these down for us.
Not necessarily. In Rome the power was with the nobility. It was a republic of the powerful landowners. It didn't fail because it gave more power to the Oligarchs who had ruled for hundreds of years. It failed because the oligarchs had a fight amongst themselves and the winner didn't want to share.
You are arguing against your own position. You gave me Rome as an example of a republic that went wrong when the oligarchs too over. I'm pointing out it was always that way, the people never had equal representation in Rome. Feel free to take your example off the board. That's why I told you that you were off to a poor start with your analysis.
Except that it turned your argument on its head. You claimed the oligarchic system in Rome was a republic then ran away from it. If you don't grant that Rome was an oligarchy, you don't have any business making any claims about the topic as you clearly know very little about Rome. Rome also shows that a republic can indeed be a republic of just the oligarchs. The same model was repeated many times from Venice to England to the original conception for America. The idea that land owners or stakeholders should be the interests represented in a republic is very old. For a guy that likes to talk about politics and philosophies you never seem to know the basics.
It was the example you gave me to prove your point. I did tell you from the start your example was bad. Now we know that's because your knowledge on the topic is bad. BAU.
I feel no compunction to further rub your nose in your error. The truth is constitutional republics are such a new concept it's hard to find any that have failed by internal means. Conceptually your point makes sense but empirically it is hard to back up.
I'm saying you are prioritizing money over lives. This isn't vague to anyone who is following the arguments. The criticism of public sector is its cost. The criticism of private is their cost cutting. I prioritize a costly but safe system over tossing this service to the trials of the market and putting lives at risk to save a buck.
They probably don't if they are making widgets. But here we are contemplating a private air control system failing. That puts lives in danger. When a thing is very important, it should not be subject to the rigors of the market. Public safety is a legitimate and proper state function they do better because the profit motive is removed.
Ponder a bit about how air traffic control issues might lead to deaths. Ponder how government unconcerned with profit might mandate staffing levels and arrival frequency that prioritize public safety. Then ponder how a profit motive might move both of those away from safety. You shouldn't require such constant hand holding.
A struggling business is the scenario we are pondering. A struggling private business squeezes the margins to remain in business. A public air control system never has to compromise safety. These are really basic points. You lost the train of the thread again. What you call vague is really just me not repeating every point already made.
You're still struggling to follow along. The scenario in this thread was a company that had the contract and was struggling. Not one that was struggling without a contract. No one thinks a company without a contract is risking anyone's safety.
Its rather elementary. We are discussing which entity runs the system best, private or public. Therefore both entities are assumed to be actually running the air traffic system for this discussion which necessitates they would have the contract.
And calling lots of the private call lines, gets you just about the same. People with accents that may know what you're asking but you can't understand their answers , or people without accents who can't seem to understand what you're asking, or if they do don't know the answers.
