SIAP: Wieskamp testing NBA waters
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his reply was about ALL players getting evaluated....
Joe Wieskamp, NBA Draft prospect.... See Kevin Huerter.
Get a grip folks because Joe could be gone, it just takes one team.
Get a grip folks because Joe could be gone, it just takes one team.
yes and I responded to that later in the thread. Is everyone just drinking today?
Not to discount your point, but Kevin played two years in college at Maryland.
IMO - Joe is going to be in the NBA one day, but I think he's a year or two away.
I was surprised to find myself wanting to trade THT for Wieskamp by the end of the season.
Obviously the decision is no brainer now that THT has entered the draft and JW will probably be in college for at least 3 years.
Will be interesting to compare their professional careers someday.
Joey W is our most talented and best player. Much more complete game than any other Hawk, and everyone knows I love Jobu.
This is a very smart move but makes me worry he might not stick around after next season. The kid is a natural 2 in the NBA.
This is a very smart move but makes me worry he might not stick around after next season. The kid is a natural 2 in the NBA.
Huerter is the natural comp for Joe, but having watched him this season in the NBA,
I just he is more explosive off the floor with more quicks ...including release of his shot.
I like Joe but I need to see how he performs next year under the pressure of being the focus of opponents defensive game plans like TC was this year.
I just he is more explosive off the floor with more quicks ...including release of his shot.
I like Joe but I need to see how he performs next year under the pressure of being the focus of opponents defensive game plans like TC was this year.
Fran may indeed be encouraging some of his players to test the NBA draft, but I've yet to see a dramatic increase in any one facet of an Iowa player that had the same evaluation.
The NBA game is so far from the college game that I'm not sure whether it is truly a positive or a hindrance to a player getting this NBA evaluation. So far, nothing in past or present players progress do I see a direct correlation between going through this evaluation or just the normal summer on campus training.
Moss, and Cook from our present team really didn't show dramatic increases in any area of their game and in some respect regressed in other areas.
If I remember, Jok was another Iowa player that went through this process along with maybe White or Marble Jr. but none of those three made the NBA and only White was drafted and that was in the second round and that basically meant very little.
I'm going on record that unless someone can show me unequivocally that the process of having an NBA evaluation helps a player become better at the college level, it's a wast of time, that could be better used practicing for the next season with your teammates.
I’m worried that these evaluations are completely skewed on what would make them better pro players, which as we know puts minimmal emphasis on defense and encourages an ability to create your own shot. This might lead some players to ignore their college coaches for their own personal gain and hurt the team.
Joe will take the feedback and use it, but the nature of his game is SO team and WINNING oriented that I’m not worried abt it hurting the team.
Others might be a concern, but I feel Joe will be mature and benefit from it.
Others might be a concern, but I feel Joe will be mature and benefit from it.
Joe seems extremely level-headed. He knows there is things he needs to improve on to take that next step, which I’m sure is why he’s getting the evaluation.
I'd rather he stay and help Iowa win a national championship.....
Maybe I’ve missed it, but exactly how does this process work? How is he given feedback? Does he workout in a gym for an hour and some scouts pop in and out and say “work on that shot a little more.” Is it more extensive feedback/evaluation? Will he get same extent of feedback not really being on the NBA radar at this point?
Answers to those questions determines whether it’s actially a good thing for Weiskamp. I’ve seen others say it’s a good thing but never explain the process as to why it’s a good thing
Answers to those questions determines whether it’s actially a good thing for Weiskamp. I’ve seen others say it’s a good thing but never explain the process as to why it’s a good thing
Jok and Horner has a thread on Twitter about this. Jok said assuming there are a couple interested teams, each will fly him out to work out for them.
According to people on here - the workouts are all about being a more selfish player and never playing defense. Because that's what the NBA looks for doesn't it?
I obtained the NBA evaluations for Cook and Moss last year. Those reports were identical. This is what it said:
1. Run faster
2. Jump higher
3. Rebound better
4. Dribble better
5. Shoot better
That's the process.
1. Run faster
2. Jump higher
3. Rebound better
4. Dribble better
5. Shoot better
That's the process.
People were mad at Cook for trying to play like a guard and having terrible results.
If Joe starts trying to hog the ball and turning it over a bunch then we have a similar situation.
Yeah, I don't know if people really have a hard time understanding this or if they are intentionally being stubborn.
To nitpick, Devyn Marble was a 2nd round draft pick and had a couple "cups of tea" in the NBA:
On June 26, 2014, Marble was selected with the 56th overall pick in the 2014 NBA draft by the Denver Nuggets.[3] He was later traded to the Orlando Magic on draft night.[4][5] He later joined the Magic for the 2014 NBA Summer League[6] before signing his rookie scale contract with the team on July 24.[7] During his rookie season, he was assigned multiple times to the Erie BayHawks of the NBA Development League.[8]
On November 30, 2015, Marble was reassigned to the Erie BayHawks.[9] He was recalled on December 23,[10] reassigned on January 1, 2016,[11] and recalled again on January 18.[12]
On July 15, 2016, Marble was traded, along with a 2020 second round draft pick, to the Los Angeles Clippers in exchange for C. J. Wilcox and cash considerations. He was subsequently waived by the Clippers upon being acquired by the team.[13]
The kid seems really into improving himself and being a team player. Unless he is ever projected as a lottery pick (unlikely), I don't see him jumping to the NBA early, certainly not before he completes his Jr. year.
Joe will play four years for Iowa,... and it won't be because other options aren't available...
