Snyder v. Sadulaev

[pablow]

Hyped a bit IMO. Sadulaev is NOT a 97 KG wrestler and his results show this - that's an almost 25 pound jump. As I understand this, his move to 97 is temporary - he eats like a pig for a year and then goes 92 KG. He's an underdog and Snyder should win this.

 

[MSU158]

It is still very important to point out that he had a much tougher half of the bracket and was not scored upon.

He is absolutely the best wrestler in Paris. Is he that undersized that he is vulnerable? Maybe. But, saying Snyder should win is definitely a stretch!

 

[PinsNpints]

I agree w Pablo

 

[Exo]

It is still very important to point out that he had a much tougher half of the bracket and was not scored upon.

He is absolutely the best wrestler in Paris. Is he that undersized that he is vulnerable? Maybe. But, saying Snyder should win is definitely a stretch!

I agree with this mostly. Sadulaev, Snyder and Yazdani are probably the best entered in this tournament IMO. The weight jump is not to be ignored though. Look how Snyder wins many of his matches, overwhelming strength. Sadulaev is so good with using his opponents momentum against them.

This should be great.

 

[crablegs1]

I agree with this mostly. Sadulaev, Snyder and Yazdani are probably the best entered in this tournament IMO. The weight jump is not to be ignored though. Look how Snyder wins many of his matches, overwhelming strength. Sadulaev is so good with using his opponents momentum against them.

This should be great.

I think Aliyev, Akgul, and Burroughs all deserve to be on that level too. All have 3 world level golds including Olympic.

You bring up Yazdani, but he jumped 20+ pounds at a lighter weight and still dominated. Sadulaev is the favorite, but it is really a toss up match and I'm taking Snyder.

 

[DirkTang1]

It is still very important to point out that he had a much tougher half of the bracket and was not scored upon.

He is absolutely the best wrestler in Paris. Is he that undersized that he is vulnerable? Maybe. But, saying Snyder should win is definitely a stretch!

This might be the one and only time I actually agree with you

 

[MSU158]

This might be the one and only time I actually agree with you

Don't let that bother you. Even a broken watch is correct twice a day!

 

[rossel 33]

Hyped a bit IMO. Sadulaev is NOT a 97 KG wrestler and his results show this - that's an almost 25 pound jump. As I understand this, his move to 97 is temporary - he eats like a pig for a year and then goes 92 KG. He's an underdog and Snyder should win this.

nice call.... looked like Snyder was able to overpower Sadulaev at the end. Two great wrestlers.

 

[MSU158]

What a great match. I still come away from that believing Sadulaev is the best pure wrestler there is right now, but Snyder isn't far behind and his size and pace proved to be a bit too much at the end. Great performance by Snyder to help Team USA win it all!

 

[Exo]

What a great match. I still come away from that believing Sadulaev is the best pure wrestler there is right now, but Snyder isn't far behind and his size and pace proved to be a bit too much at the end. Great performance by Snyder to help Team USA win it all!

Really?? Sadulaev did not look smaller than Snyder from my vantage point. I think that match just showed who the best wrestler in the world is.

 

[MSU158]

Really?? Sadulaev did not look smaller than Snyder from my vantage point. I think that match just showed who the best wrestler in the world is.

Are you kidding me? I guarantee Sads was giving up 15lbs to the field. Trust me, I am not knocking Snyder, he deserved to win, but you will see Sads at 92kg as soon as the weight class begins.

 

[crablegs1]

No way. Sadulaev pushed Snyder around the whole match. It was gas tank at the end, not strength. Same way Snyder beat Gadisov.

 

[Sett1997]

What a great match. I still come away from that believing Sadulaev is the best pure wrestler there is right now, but Snyder isn't far behind and his size and pace proved to be a bit too much at the end. Great performance by Snyder to help Team USA win it all!

? Lol

 

[MSU158]

No way. Sadulaev pushed Snyder around the whole match. It was gas tank at the end, not strength. Same way Snyder beat Gadisov.

I didn't see any pushing around at all. In fact Snyder was all head pressure throughout. What did happen to make it look like Sads was pushing Snyder was how quick he was to change angles to shift his opponents momentum. The gas tank was simply a byproduct of the weight difference.

Again, Sads and Snyder are the 2 best current Senior level wrestlers, I would just be truly surprised if Sads was over 215 at the start of that match and Snyder gets right back to 230 or so pretty quick after weigh ins.

 

[AFHawk86]

MSU - We voted and you're wrong.

 

[Sett1997]

Best in the world just got second place MSU.
Just giving you a hard time.

 

[LaxHawk174]

Sadulaev is my favorite non-American wrestler, I think he's the best technician in the world, but Snyders furious pace gassed him in the end. Snyder may have been slightly bigger, but I think Sad has grown into the weight more since Russian nationals and he looked pretty good. It was good to see he couldn't get anything going from Par terre, if he had gotten a gut that might have sealed the deal.

I agree that Sadulaev will be at 92kg next year, and I think he'll continue winning titles at that weight. But man what a freakin historic day for Snyder. Winning that match, against such a high quality (not to mention undefeated) opponent, last match of the tournament, with the team title on the line. Took the pressure of all USA on his shoulders and won. Gutsy performance, that match lived up to all of the hype.

 

[Sett1997]

I didn't see any pushing around at all. In fact Snyder was all head pressure throughout. What did happen to make it look like Sads was pushing Snyder was how quick he was to change angles to shift his opponents momentum. The gas tank was simply a byproduct of the weight difference.

Again, Sads and Snyder are the 2 best current Senior level wrestlers, I would just be truly surprised if Sads was over 215 at the start of that match and Snyder gets right back to 230 or so pretty quick after weigh ins.

That Burroughs guy is pretty good too.

 

[MSU158]

That Burroughs guy is pretty good too.

No doubt, his legacy eclipses both guys. I was simply talking about current ability. That Burroughs has lost a step and still won it all tells u all you need to know about how good he was in his prime!

 

[MSU158]

MSU - We voted and you're wrong.

You aren't the 1st and most assuredly won't be the last. Would love to see someone list their actual weights.

 

[Gobblin]

I think Snyder has an extremely good chance to go down as the greatest American wrestler of all time.

 

[HoundedHawk]

What a great match. Flo had it but I can't find it now.

 

[DirkTang1]

I think Snyder has an extremely good chance to go down as the greatest American wrestler of all time.

He will be the greatest of all time if he competes into his thirties

 

[Bulldog/Hawkeye]

Are you saying he weighed in 15 pounds lighter than the competition? That would basically mean he wasn't cutting anything to make 86 or has put on no weight since moving up a weight class a year ago. Hard to believe either of those would be true

 

[MSU158]

The weigh classes are 24.5 lbs apart. Do I believe he weighed in near 213.5? Yeah. Do I believe he was anywhere close to 230? Not a chance.

 

[Sett1997]

Look at Sudaleav look at Snyder after the push out at 5:15. Lol. Sudalaev had not yielded even one point the whole tournnament until Snyder. Reminded me immediately of this.

 

[horraybeer]

The weigh classes are 24.5 lbs apart. Do I believe he weighed in near 213.5? Yeah. Do I believe he was anywhere close to 230? Not a chance.

So what. He entered 96kg and lost to the better man today.

 

[pablow]

No way. Sadulaev pushed Snyder around the whole match. It was gas tank at the end, not strength. Same way Snyder beat Gadisov.

MSU - We voted and you're wrong.

No way. Sadulaev pushed Snyder around the whole match. It was gas tank at the end, not strength. Same way Snyder beat Gadisov.

Here are Snyder's own words, quoted in the Washington Post yesterday. BTW, these remarks are pure class and reflect very well on Snyder -

“I am a happy man. I would have been happy with that performance, even if I lost. I wrestled really hard,” Snyder said. “He felt smaller. I felt stronger than him. That is what made him tired. He was definitely smaller for the weight class.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/spor...178cf3524eb_story.html?utm_term=.f7a6c7a59ed2​

 

[WWDMHawkeye]

Here are Snyder's own words, quoted in the Washington Post yesterday. BTW, these remarks are pure class and reflect very well on Snyder -

“I am a happy man. I would have been happy with that performance, even if I lost. I wrestled really hard,” Snyder said. “He felt smaller. I felt stronger than him. That is what made him tired. He was definitely smaller for the weight class.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/spor...178cf3524eb_story.html?utm_term=.f7a6c7a59ed2​

Nothing but massive respect for Kyle. Dude is as classy as classy gets. Just a phenomenal representative of the USA, as is Jordan, of course. For that matter, I couldn't be prouder of how all of our USA guys fought and displayed grace in victory and in defeat. Hard to believe Logan and Zain had tough outings well short of their capability (but not for lack of effort and fight -- just one of those days) and we still won the thing. Had we been firing on all cylinders, it wouldn't have been close. Mad props to every member of Team USA, and their coaches.

 

[MSU158]

Great match and a great win by an even greater man. Character is often missing in today's society. How many people would have acknowledged an opponent's disadvantage like that?

Regardless of the size disparity, he earned the win. But, to show the respect to Sadulaev that he did there is what truly makes him a Champion.

 

[StParis]

Go Bucks!

 

[Sett1997]

The weigh classes are 24.5 lbs apart. Do I believe he weighed in near 213.5? Yeah. Do I believe he was anywhere close to 230? Not a chance.

97 kg is 213.8 lbs, pretty sure you can't weigh in at 230lb. And compete.

 

[AFHawk86]

97 kg is 213.4 lbs, pretty sure you cant weigh in at 230lb. And compete.

It's a Russian thing

 

[Wrestlerneverdiesasacatfan]

I think Snyder has an extremely good chance to go down as the greatest American wrestler of all time.

Snyder has two world and an Olympic gold while still in college? Amazing!

 

[MSU158]

97 kg is 213.8 lbs, pretty sure you can't weigh in at 230lb. And compete.

You really got me there. It's not like wrestlers can actually get back to a more natural weight by the time they step on the mat or, in the case of a smaller guy, stay at their already natural weight.

 

[DayHawk18]

You really got me there. It's not like wrestlers can actually get back to a more natural weight by the time they step on the mat or, in the case of a smaller guy, stay at their already natural weight.

That's impossible! You're stupid MSU. Snyder weighs 213 year round despite what he weighs in at for NCAA events. Sadulaev the same. In fact, he's not really a man because he cut weight to make 86kg. No real man ever cuts weight.

 

[theIowaHawk]

I think Snyder has an extremely good chance to go down as the greatest American wrestler of all time.

Amazing to see, even during Burroughs run.

Still quite possible to peak early.

 

[Grip220]

Snyder has an incredible gas tank and seems to really get his second wind when the other guys hit the wall.. He sometimes looks like he is really sucking wind but does not get to the point where he is completely gased.. its great to watch him keep the pressure on late for his size its very difficult

 

[Mattski]

I only wish Snyder would have been a Hawk.

 

[el dub]

Amazing to see, even during Burroughs run.

Still quite possible to peak early.

Peak early? Like, after a few world and Olympic titles?