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Soldier Salute Session #4

Anyways, I’m starting to wonder if Lee didn’t want to wrestle at all and the coaches made him.

Explains the “I’m done” reaction.

And the “He wanted this” actually is “You wanted this”.
Kinda refutes Spencer’s claim that it’s his decision when he wrestles
 
I’ve seen him recently say Tomasello was unathletic and a bad wrestler. Others as well but I can’t remember all of them. But several comments similar to that.

Was very surprised.
This post is a lie and never happened. If you have a link share it. You won't, because it didn't happen. What is your point and end goal here telling this lie? You will find a post when Spencer was interviewed live on ESPN after he defeated Tomasello at nationals and he said, I love that man. We go way back; he used to practice with me when I was younger. He's a great person, great champion etc. It was a classy interview. In another interview, I heard, he talked about the close personal friendship they have with each other, and he tells a story about working out with him at the Olympic Training Center. You picked the wrong guy to lie about. Who are you HawkMachine? It's easy to hide behind a screen name and post negative shit. Stand up and be accountable if you're going to call someone out and lie about them. This is a forum; many opinions are espoused. Some are informed and some are idiotic, some comments are made in fun and jest and I often find good information. I love it when I can't be somewhere, and someone is providing updates. That's a public forum and it's great. When I take exception is when someone wants to lie, and you sir just lied in a big way and that is total bull shit.
 
I have none. I’ll say this though, I find it strange and a bit disrespectful that it seems Spencer makes it a point in interviews this year to let everyone know that he’s calling the shots and will wrestle when he decides to wrestle. None of you find that odd?
Did you ever think he's helping the program. If something goes wrong, if he reinjures his knee against ISU; the haters would have a field day. If it's Spencer's call given coming back from double knee surgery; it provides some support to the decision.
 
This post is a lie and never happened. If you have a link share it. You won't, because it didn't happen. What is your point and end goal here telling this lie? You will find a post when Spencer was interviewed live on ESPN after he defeated Tomasello at nationals and he said, I love that man. We go way back; he used to practice with me when I was younger. He's a great person, great champion etc. It was a classy interview. In another interview, I heard, he talked about the close personal friendship they have with each other, and he tells a story about working out with him at the Olympic Training Center. You picked the wrong guy to lie about. Who are you HawkMachine? It's easy to hide behind a screen name and post negative shit. Stand up and be accountable if you're going to call someone out and lie about them. This is a forum; many opinions are espoused. Some are informed and some are idiotic, some comments are made in fun and jest and I often find good information. I love it when I can't be somewhere, and someone is providing updates. That's a public forum and it's great. When I take exception is when someone wants to lie, and you sir just lied in a big way and that is total bull shit.
Put money on it?

How about a cool grand?
 
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If one doesn’t Monday Morning QB the result of the match, ignores the fact that Spencer went 7 minutes in the semis against a guy Ayala would beat, then ignore the positives from there, this is a good point.
What positives?!? My God…
 
Yes, you state that something has changed with Spencer. You talk about his recent comments and when challenged you bring up one potential comment that he recently made. Your words. This is false. Did you watch the post Soldier Salute Interview? Did you listen? How can you critique that interview? You won't comment on that, because it doesn't fit the narrative you're trying to make. He was super complimentary of Drake...

if you are talking about a post from around 3-YEARS ago, when he was talking about his style (NATO); wow you are reaching and exaggerating. They are good friends and they go back and forth. Spencer jokes with him about poking him in the eyes and being a dirty wrestler as well... Nato gives as good as he takes in the back and forth. This is an ongoing banter.... This is from 3-years ago. Not recent and you won't find anything else about anyone else. So, yes, put your money on it. You said something has changed and he has made several recent negative comments-- Your full of fecal matter and attempted to exaggerate and lie--to make a point and to show a young man in a negative light all the while HIDING BEHIND A SCREEN NAME. There are not several recent examples. Nothing has changed. Check out the post Soldier Salute Interview.... Get a life. If you want to be negative show some accountability yourself.
 
This post is a lie and never happened. If you have a link share it. You won't, because it didn't happen. What is your point and end goal here telling this lie? You will find a post when Spencer was interviewed live on ESPN after he defeated Tomasello at nationals and he said, I love that man. We go way back; he used to practice with me when I was younger. He's a great person, great champion etc. It was a classy interview. In another interview, I heard, he talked about the close personal friendship they have with each other, and he tells a story about working out with him at the Olympic Training Center. You picked the wrong guy to lie about. Who are you HawkMachine? It's easy to hide behind a screen name and post negative shit. Stand up and be accountable if you're going to call someone out and lie about them. This is a forum; many opinions are espoused. Some are informed and some are idiotic, some comments are made in fun and jest and I often find good information. I love it when I can't be somewhere, and someone is providing updates. That's a public forum and it's great. When I take exception is when someone wants to lie, and you sir just lied in a big way and that is total bull shit.
I think he's another psu troll.
 
I’m not sure if I want to give credit to Brands for the perfect “Troll Job” or not. If he did what I think he may have done I think Tom is f***** brilliant!

“Ok Spencer, you run the show, you like to tell everyone YOU decide when you’ll wrestle. Ok then, sending Drake out there. You decide if you’ll wrestle him or not”.

Like I said, I haven’t decided if Tom played his cards like that or not. If he did, that sure as hell is one way to show the rest of the team who really runs the show around there. And in the future, don’t ever think you’ll decide the way I do things here.
 
I agree.

Coach Brands has said that wrestlers may not understand how much they can compete with an injury. May've even talked to first significant injury. Along that line, I was extending this concern from view of the wrestlers' uncertainty to reinjury of a similarly recovering teammate, rather than from any consideration of actual medical clearances and associated physical ability / actual risk.

Others here have speculated the importance of avoiding a plethora of finals MFFs.
Results don’t have to be the cause. Two teammates wrestled. There were emotions. BFD.

I can imagine a situation where DL (and his family?) have no idea as to the true abilities of SL due to injuries. I can imagine a parent feeling like an athlete is getting treated differently than their family member.

Points were made last night. Bars were set. Finally.
 
Crazy thread with so many comments about Lee being a d*ck which he is the exact opposite of. Everything I have read or seen from him is a highly motivated, confident yet humble individual. I could speculate on what happened but won't because I have no idea what actually went down. I have confidence in our coaching staff 100 percent.
 
Crazy thread with so many comments about Lee being a d*ck which he is the exact opposite of. Everything I have read or seen from him is a highly motivated, confident yet humble individual. I could speculate on what happened but won't because I have no idea what actually went down. I have confidence in our coaching staff 100 percent.
Agreed.
 
What positives?!? My God…

Lol We already did this last night.

Season 9 No GIF by The Office
 
This is getting funny.

Strangers telling me what I didn’t hear coming from Spencer’s mouth.

Well, back to watching the bowl game.

Go Hawks.
 
This is getting funny.

Strangers telling me what I didn’t hear coming from Spencer’s mouth.

Well, back to watching the bowl game.

Go Hawks.
The only thing "funny" is that you're unwilling to provide any evidence of your alleged claim. In fact, you try to spin it to make us do the research and provide the evidence for you instead.

That's ****ing lazy.

Also, what's more likely: you're the ONLY one that heard it and 1000's are wrong or you simply misheard it in the 1st place?
 
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If this is similar to 2 fb players getting into it on the sideline, coaches will iron it out. I will agree with Gobblin that the coaches could have made a call, but we’ve wanted the fur to fly in years past at midlands and never coddled a hawk on the losing side in the finals with a teammate. SLee needs to improve his gas tank and confidence in his knees. I think he got some of that.
And I know that Gobblin knows full well the punishment that goes on in the room with smaller guys being forced to wrestle up. It’s humiliating for a reason. Metcalf used to punish MM. I’m calling a winning troll effort by Gobblin or else he needs a sponsor and a gps tracker to keep him away from the 21 and over section of any store.
 
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I’m done I’m here but will add, none of what happened really matters if I were to be honest. I only talk about it because I’m bored. Spencer will be gone in 3 months and coach will still be there doing what he thinks is right to lead his team. He’s one of the best out there and that’s really all that matters. I still think Brands played his hand here with an eye on the future and having the next crop buy into trusting him and believing in “his way” of doing things. Yes, I know I speculate… so be it

Hope yin’s have a great and fruitful New Year!
 
This is getting funny.

Strangers telling me what I didn’t hear coming from Spencer’s mouth.

Well, back to watching the bowl game.

Go Hawks.

Anonymously talk shit about a beloved Hawkeye on an Iowa board.

Make a wild claim that no one backs you on.

Refuse to present evidence to support said claim.

Say everyone else is the problem.

That’s truly amazing stuff.
 
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