Some things I deeply believe about this election

[Jerome Silberman]

I really don't think it's smart to look at "bad" here much different than law might think about bad. It seem like a mess or argument to make otherwise.

My point with Huey is that it's a deleterious to the party to project out that attitude into the politicosphere. (Think deplorables)

I think allowing morally corrupt billionaires to shift the standard of ethic in leadership to be lowered to the most basic understanding of the law is one of the most damaging things anyone could do, and anyone that helps it along(knowingly or othewise) is likely deplorable and should not be trusted to play the game honestly. It's 2024 Assman, and GOP voters have given us Trump 3x in a row. This isn't an accident.

 

[WDSMHAWK]

... Because that attitude cost the party votes

So f'cking dumb. If someone uses the excuse of "I was going to vote Dem but they said mean things about Trump supporters so I changed my mind" then they were never serious about voting Dem in the first place

 

[Jerome Silberman]

So f'cking dumb. If someone uses the excuse of "I was going to vote Dem but they said mean things about Trump supporters so I changed my mind,: then they were never serious about voting Dem in the first place

 

[SoonerBeAHawk]

You can't logic yourself out of the truth. You're going to vote for a despicable man that has contempt for the system he lies and says he loves. You're a sucker, and it sucks.

It has nothing to do with a single Democrat, liberal or conservative. He is what you want, and that is pathetic. Therefore I have no respect for you, and I do not feel bad about it in the slightest.

I don't know you.

Maybe you're just a little too overzealous in your approach to politics. Maybe in day-to-day life you're ok, can't say I have no respect for you just yet.

Anyway, haven't you ever heard someone like Bill Maher let on that a lot of Trump voters don't like him either? Win or lose, I'll be glad he won't be running in 2028 (he won't even be on the ballots so don't start ... ).

But right now it's either his policies or Kamala's (she was always the last person in the room) ruinous policies of the last four years.

There are people who can't afford basic necessities now. If they say "Hey, I was better off four years ago" and vote for Trump, do you also have no respect for them?

 

[Jerome Silberman]

I don't know you.

Maybe you're just a little too overzealous in your approach to politics. Maybe in day-to-day life you're ok, can't say I have no respect for you just yet.

Anyway, haven't you ever heard someone like Bill Maher let on that a lot of Trump voters don't like him either. Win or lose, I'll be glad he won't be running in 2028 (he won't even be on the ballots so don't start ... ).

But right now it's either his policies or Kamala's (she was always the last person in the room) ruinous policies of the last four years.

There are people who can't afford basic necessities now. If they say "Hey, I was better off four years ago" and vote for Trump, do you also have no respect for them?

Zero.

 

[SoonerBeAHawk]

Zero.

I gave you a like for going ahead and outing yourself.

 

[Phenomenally Frantastic]

I don’t think for a second that she’d govern like some super woke leftist candidate but she absolutely has not explained herself in any way how she’s changed. And that let’s people run wild if she won’t explain herself.

Not even for a second?

That’s who she is. She’s a San Fran extremist sociopath with horrible policies and horrible ideas. She hasn’t changed.

 

[nelly02]

Well, a lot of human garbage does seem to be getting dumped here. When ICE starts apprehending doctors, lawyers, engineers, financial professionals, etc. en masse at the southern border, I’ll reassess my position.

This may be the stupidest most racist post in the history of this board and that's saying a lot

 

[Phenomenally Frantastic]

Which McDonalds location did Kamala work at?

Why won’t she say? Anyone? Anyone?

Bueller?

 

[nelly02]

He’s a piece of shit. Policy versus policy though, some people will like his versus hers

What policy is it that you like? His hate for certain groups of people? His "concept of a Healthcare plan"? His non built wall that Mexico didn't pay for?

And if you are going to say anything related to the economy the facts have been born out that the dems continually trounce the Rs in basically all metrics you can measure it by. Clinton, Obama and now Biden have all had to come into shit economies brought on by Rs and for some reason you morons want to create another mess.

Lastly even if your premise was true and Republicans had some kind of a decent plan they've shown over and over and over they can't implement anything. Shown by what I said earlier in this post about trump and looking at this current R ran house which is the least productive house in history.

You all just need to start admitting you vote with your feelings because the facts certainly don't align with your opinions.

 

[Hock-I]

Just to level set, I have already voted for Harris and I expect Trump to win. This also isn’t some sad boy post due to that, it’s a result of some stuff that occurred between posters on this board.

1. Voting for Trump doesn’t make you a bad person. Voting for Harris doesn’t make you a bad person. I know many people who will be voting all kinds of different ways and I’m lucky to have them in my life. People make the calculus about who they are voting for based on a lot of things and some things are very heavily weighted. I know a lot of people who are appalled by Trump’s behavior but they sincerely pro-life, it’s their #1 issue by a mile, so they are voting for Trump. It’s that simple for them. It doesn’t make them evil. You might disagree with that position completely but people are allowed to make their own choices in our society and if you want them on your team, it’s your responsibility to convince them.
2. Just because you vote for Trump or Harris, doesn’t mean you agree 100% with them or the positions of their party. You might want to put that on the opposite group, but it’s wrong and you should stop.
3. If you’re reading this, you’re probably paying more attention to politics than 99% of the people you know. We’ve probably all had the experience of a guy at a sporting event complaining about some nuance that’s happening on the field incessantly and it’s annoying. You’re thinking, this is just weird how this guy can’t let stuff go. That’s how most people think of us.
4. I think Harris has done a very poor job explaining to the electorate how her positions have changed since 2019. I don’t think for a second that she’d govern like some super woke leftist candidate but she absolutely has not explained herself in any way how she’s changed. And that let’s people run wild if she won’t explain herself.
5. I am not afraid of the next 4 years regardless of what happens. I’m incredibly blessed socially and financially. But I understand WHY there are those that are and I do my best to be respectful of that, even though I fail.

Anyway, I could go on, but man politics is just uglier than I can remember it right now, Americans seem to actually hate each other, and I can’t stand how it has effected people even in my social circle. Peace out and enjoy your weekend.

Well said. As you can see from the responses, there are a lot of people who lead absolutely miserable lives and whatever person occupies a position in government greatly impacts that.

 

[HROT]

Well said. As you can see from the responses, there are a lot of people who lead absolutely miserable lives and whatever person occupies a position in government greatly impacts that.

Says the guy in the group dominated by FJB and Joe and the Hoe gotta go, unironically

 

[pjhawk]

1. I am not afraid of the next 4 years regardless of what happens. I’m incredibly blessed socially and financially. But I understand WHY there are those that are and I do my best to be respectful of that, even though I fail.

Anyway, I could go on, but man politics is just uglier than I can remember it right now, Americans seem to actually hate each other, and I can’t stand how it has effected people even in my social circle. Peace out and enjoy your weekend.

I consider this to be one of the all-time worst wannabe "saavy" "sophisticated" but is actually "vapid" "naive" "stupid" posts I've ever seen here.

It will not age well at all if Trump wins.

And people like you that are smug and self-satisfied and arrogant about how secure your position is in the old world of the post WW2 and current political economy of the country and think you're untouchable deserve absolutely everything coming to you with a 2nd Trump administration and what happens to the country as a result of it.

Trump becoming President again burns it all down. If you can't see that, you haven't been paying attention or you're an idiot.

 

[EasyHawk]

What does it say when people support a felon and sexual abuser, likely pedophile drug addict who disparages veterans and POWs and worships dictators and is banned from running a charity because he and his family stole from it. And is apparently so bad at selecting a cabinet that he now says all of his former people were horrible. Never in our nation’s history would a person like him have a shot.

 

[waterboy4582]

OK, OK, voting for Trump doesn't make you a bad person.

But it sure signifies that you are a bad person.

This attitude is why Trump even has a chance.

 

[Phenomenally Frantastic]

This anti-1st Amendment statement should be immediately disqualifying for Kamala.

How can she swear an Oath to protect the Constitution when she CLEARLY does not believe in it?

She is plainly advocating against the Constitution here. Indisputable.

 

[Hock-I]

Says the guy in the group dominated by FJB and Joe and the Hoe gotta go, unironically

Just like the OP, I have preferences, but I do not froth at the mouth that the world’s going to end if either party gets in. I will occasionally debate a topic and share why I think one sides opinion is superior to the other, but then I move on. In no way am I going to let one party determine my happiness in life. It’s very obvious that many here, on both sides of the aisle, daily lives are impacted immensely by whomever occupies the White House.

 

[Sullivan]

He. Has. No. Actual. Policy.

Now if you’re for Project 2025 and believe that’s going to be good for us then you’re pro-authoritarianism. I don’t know how independent thinkers could investigate Project 2025 and then choose it.

Did you really fall for the Project 25 fake news?

With the exception of a few D extremist, that never gained much traction.

 

[DooBi]

What?

Looks like reborn forgot to switch to his other handle before posting. Lol good lord what a lonely life people must live if having multiple handles arguing against themselves is what gets them off.

 

[Phenomenally Frantastic]

He. Has. No. Actual. Policy.

Now if you’re for Project 2025 and believe that’s going to be good for us then you’re pro-authoritarianism. I don’t know how independent thinkers could investigate Project 2025 and then choose it.

Well one policy is to create D.O.G.E., nominate Musk to run it and whack federal partisans by 50%.

Get a real job you leeches on the ass of America.

Then “Surprise!” a balanced budget for the first time since the 1990s.

Inflation craters, recession risk ends, Fed cuts rates, roaring 20s.

This policy alone is enough to vote for Trump.

 

[Phenomenally Frantastic]

All government agents…prepare to hear:

“What have you gotten done this week?”

Quite a lot if Musk runs DOGE.

 

[pjhawk]

This attitude is why Trump even has a chance.

iT's aLWaYs tHe LiBerAl's fAuLT. Perfect one sentence definition of Murc's Law. Libs are the only ones with agency in our political system.

You did it to yourself liberals! You're the reason the Republican party turned into a degenerate corrupt cult of personality. With your smug condescension, you're looking down your nose at the salt of the earth blah blah blah!

 

[waterboy4582]

iT's aLWaYs tHe LiBerAl's fAuLT. Perfect one sentence definition of Murc's Law. Libs are the only ones with agency in our political system.

You did it to yourself liberals! You're the reason the Republican party turned into a degenerate corrupt cult of personality. With your smug condescension, you're looking down your nose at the salt of the earth blah blah blah!

Did I include the word liberals?

 

[Phenomenally Frantastic]

Far Right MAGA

 

[Phenomenally Frantastic]

 

[pjhawk]

Did I include the word liberals?

You didn't have to dude.

Anybody using the "attitude of other people towards people like me" excuse to vote for Trump is completely full of shit and likely a totally committed MAGA.

 

[pjhawk]

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Boy, Elon is making sure to flood the zone even on obscure sports boards in the last week of the election. Probably time to put Phenom on ignore, bullshit deluge incoming.

 

[BioHawk]

So f'cking dumb. If someone uses the excuse of "I was going to vote Dem but they said mean things about Trump supporters so I changed my mind" then they were never serious about voting Dem in the first place

That really is one of the better, "I know Trump is evil and voting for him makes me evil but I don't want to be so I'll desperately find ANY excuse to make it look like I actually don't like what I'm voting for even though I really want these things to happen" justifications out there. So, you are going to vote for a terrible bully who openly makes fun of people and says terrible things about people because someone else said terrible things about that guy? Come on.

 

[MikeyHawk]

Sure it does. Even if you are a single issue voter on abortion, you can vote for some other pro life candidate or leave the presidential race blank.

There's no excuse to vote for someone as bad as Trump - unless you are also a bad person.

I get it that some people think Kamala is also awful. It's amazing how quickly that happened. From Kamala who? to the worst ever in 3 months despite, according to her detractors, not taking any positions on any issues. How does that happen?

But the same principle applies. Don't vote for her if she isn't acceptable. But don't vote for the other unacceptable candidate, either.

Have some standards.

Why do you care how someone votes? what you believe is what others should believe?

are you making comments to those are voting for Kamala because they view Trump as unacceptable?

You are such a simpleton

In a free country with elections, seems to me that they should vote how they want. Who cares what you think?

 

[BioHawk]

Boy, Elon is making sure to flood the zone even on obscure sports boards in the last week of the election. Probably time to put Phenom on ignore, bullshit deluge incoming.

This site isn't as obscure as you might think, particularly if you are trying to reach Iowa voters. The last 4 or 5 elections have really had a bunch of campaigning targeting this site. The last 3 (including this one) have had foreign operatives doing this. Remember Nat Algren? It usually is pretty obvious who they are and after the election they disappear never to be heard from again.

 

[MikeyHawk]

Trump has no policy beyond enriching himself and revenge. Only pieces of shit would support this

What is interesting over the last 8 years, is that people like you and Tom Paris are the primary reason why people vote for Trump. I know you will never understand that, but, it is the case

 

[MikeyHawk]

So f'cking dumb. If someone uses the excuse of "I was going to vote Dem but they said mean things about Trump supporters so I changed my mind" then they were never serious about voting Dem in the first place

Not true at all, but, guessing it makes you feel better about your vote. Your ilk wants to claim superiority and proclaim everyone dumb that doesn't agree with you. I know you will disagree, which is why people view those like you that way. I know it is hard to believe, but, not everyone thinks like you or has the same beliefs as you.

 

[Jerome Silberman]

What is interesting over the last 8 years, is that people like you and Tom Paris are the primary reason why people vote for Trump. I know you will never understand that, but, it is the case

 

[pjhawk]

What is interesting over the last 8 years, is that people like you and Tom Paris are the primary reason why people vote for Trump. I know you will never understand that, but, it is the case

Here it is again! Nobody who votes for Trump has any agency. They were driven to it! What else could they do?!? It's all the libs fault!

Shut up libs if you want to win elections! Shut up shut up shut up!%!!

Meanwhile, Trump, the most vulgar, name-calling candidate in the history of the country gets a complete free pass.

They're just such comprehensively, completely full of shit people.

 

[ClarindaA's]

You're speaking to a racist. There is no joy there.

A culturalist, in that i think some cultures are less valuable in what they provide and produce than others. Not completely race based as race and culture mix. I don’t like woke or MAGA zealots. This is a hold your nose election for both sides. If you are being honest.

 

[Huey Grey]

What is interesting over the last 8 years, is that people like you and Tom Paris are the primary reason why people vote for Trump. I know you will never understand that, but, it is the case

Yep. We're to blame. Trump can shit his pants, rape women, try to overthrow the government. But the real problem is pointing out all this corruption.

 

[ClarindaA's]

Trump has no policy beyond enriching himself and revenge. Only pieces of shit would support this

Border will be stricter, hopefully illegals with a violent history get deported, we can recover from his next 4 years after that.

 

[gohawks50]

What is interesting over the last 8 years, is that people like you and Tom Paris are the primary reason why people vote for Trump. I know you will never understand that, but, it is the case

Trump says much worse things about liberals, Democrats, immigrants, etc. everyday, if you don't like the things Huey and Tom say, how are you okay with Trump? Why does Trump get your vote when he is even worse?

 

[gohawks50]

Border will be stricter, hopefully illegals with a violent history get deported, we can recover from his next 4 years after that.

So are you voting for Trump, then?

 

[ClarindaA's]

Trump says much worse things about liberals, Democrats, immigrants, etc. everyday, if you don't like the things Huey and Tom say, how are you okay with Trump? Why does Trump get your vote when he is even worse?

If Trump voters who aren’t MAGA are honest, it’s the border, the giveaways…but even more, they identify with what used to be normal, women playing women’s sports, no pushback on cultural norms. The campaign and entire Republican Party floats ideas dealing with trans in sports, shutting down the border, etc…and when their is pushback, it pains the democrats as weird and not something the voters feels comfortable with. Just my 2 cents