Something we should all be able to agree about....

[Jimmy McGill]

It is moronic that we are aware:

The United States and New Zealand are the only two countries that allow pharmaceutical companies to directly advertise prescription drugs to the public:

We are paying to advertise the things we need to purchase. Cycle of idiocy

 

[goldmom]

It is moronic that we are aware:

The United States and New Zealand are the only two countries that allow pharmaceutical companies to directly advertise prescription drugs to the public:

We are paying to advertise the things we need to purchase. Cycle of idiocy

The budget for these ads in the US is enormous.
Think of how that money could be spent just a little more wisely.

 

[DirtyJohns97]

 

[OutbackBowl2017]

It is moronic that we are aware:

The United States and New Zealand are the only two countries that allow pharmaceutical companies to directly advertise prescription drugs to the public:

We are paying to advertise the things we need to purchase. Cycle of idiocy

You SOB. I thought you were going to say boobs over a$$ w/ pics……leaving disappointed.

Now me, depends which way they are walking.

 

[WadeLookingbill]

 

[Aardvark86]

When the fda developed its dtc broadcast guidance, it was under substantial first amendment litigation pressure. On top of that, at the time there was decent data to suggest that awareness of treatment options actually had positive intended and unintended health benefits.

The problem with their solution is/was they tried to make broadcast ads Just like print ads, with a full recitation of significant risks and side effects. The result has been that the fair balance disclosure has just become noise, and all consumers focus on is the images. For that reason I’m of the view they’re no longer really defensible, but for the nasty first amendment problem.

 

[GOHOX69]

You're 4 fat chicks removed 😉 but she is the og.

 

[fredjr82]

Hypocrisy that alcohol and tobacco can't run these ads but big pharma can. What happened to the "Mountains win again!!" Busch Lite commercials theme song

 

[Jimmy McGill]

Who needs Mexican drug cartels when we have big pharm

 

[JWolf74]

The budget for these ads in the US is enormous.
Think of how that money could be spent just a little more wisely.

And here's the thing.... We already know about those meds. You don't have to "ask your doctor about X". All it does is lead to longer conversations that take away time from discussing the actual topics of the visit.

Not to mention most of those drugs require a prior auth and failure of cheaper options first.

 

[St. Louis Hawk]

^ Office visits would be better spent asking why I am seeking medical advice from an M1er.

 

[hawkdave007]

It is moronic that we are aware:

The United States and New Zealand are the only two countries that allow pharmaceutical companies to directly advertise prescription drugs to the public:

We are paying to advertise the things we need to purchase. Cycle of idiocy

The budget for these ads in the US is enormous.
Think of how that money could be spent just a little more wisely.

Ads from the drug companies are figuratively the "crutch" propping up the 4 major television networks and most of the cable channels.

https://www.fiercepharma.com/marketing/abbvie-makes-clean-sweep-skyrizi-and-rinvoq-top-tv-drug-ad-spender-2023

Not to mention all of the "native advertisements" like this one on CNN.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/16/health/after-ozempic-maintaining-weight-loss/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/15/health/weight-loss-drugs-analysis-gupta/index.html

It also means for the news channels that most of their "bread" is buttered by these companies, so it's likely that a debate on this topic won't even reach the airwaves.

 

[JWolf74]

^ Office visits would be better spent asking why I am seeking medical advice from an M1er.

If you haven't figured out why M1 is superior, then no amount of counseling can help . So I wouldn't waste the time. I can't bill on hours.

 

[Chuck C]

When the fda developed its dtc broadcast guidance, it was under substantial first amendment litigation pressure. On top of that, at the time there was decent data to suggest that awareness of treatment options actually had positive intended and unintended health benefits.

The problem with their solution is/was they tried to make broadcast ads Just like print ads, with a full recitation of significant risks and side effects. The result has been that the fair balance disclosure has just become noise, and all consumers focus on is the images. For that reason I’m of the view they’re no longer really defensible, but for the nasty first amendment problem.

I don’t remember what ad/drug it is, but my ears always perk up when it says: “Side effects may include, a tearing of the perineum”

Uhhh, no. I’m not taking anything that might split my taint.

 

[ISUBryce]

LOWERING MY A-1-SEEEEEEEEEE

 

[DFSNOLE]

Hypocrisy that alcohol and tobacco can't run these ads but big pharma can. What happened to the "Mountains win again!!" Busch Lite commercials theme song

You don't see beer commercials in Iowa?

 

[Aardvark86]

^ Office visits would be better spent asking why I am seeking medical advice from an M1er.

We both know that's a bit of an oversimplification. I'll give you a personal example.

I have some pretty nasty depuytrens contractures on some of my fingers. I've been lazy about doing anything about them because I've sort of adapted to them and assumed that my alternative was pretty much hand surgery, and who has time for that?

But from time to time they do get in the way a bit (putting on gloves, hanging from an exercise bar is impossible, gripping things). So when I saw an ad for a new injection therapy, I did a little bit of Dr. Google research, and decided to ask my primary to connect me with a hand doc.

So I go into the hand doc, and she looks at my right hand and the first thing out of her mouth were the words i thought every doc was taught not to say in first year of medical school: "oh that's interesting". (I frowned.) Ultimately, she said she didn't think I'd be an appropriate candidate for the injection given progression and some other things, but then she started using words like "have a look around" and "skin grafts".

So, I still have my contractures, and I'll probably revisit them again at some point with a different doctor, but I think the conversation was absolutely worth it.

 

[Aardvark86]

I don’t remember what ad/drug it is, but my ears always perk up when it says: “Side effects may include, a tearing of the perineum”

Uhhh, no. I’m not taking anything that might split my taint.

...but they said it with a friendly/sexy voice that makes it sound so matter of fact!

 

[EagleHawk]

I don't remember the drug (Jardiance I think), but heard a commercial the other day and they modified the song they sing during the commercial, and it actually annoyed me that they would change the OG song. Respect the classics man.

 

[fredjr82]

You don't see beer commercials in Iowa?

I don't remember the last time I did? Granted I cut the cord about a decade ago, but have streaming services/live TV and I'm missing them if they're there. These are the last one I remember. Is it Blues Traveler? It says 2005. Probably decided to quit reminding us we need to drink. We do good enough remembering. LOL!

 

[BelemNole]

We both know that's a bit of an oversimplification. I'll give you a personal example.

I have some pretty nasty depuytrens contractures on some of my fingers. I've been lazy about doing anything about them because I've sort of adapted to them and assumed that my alternative was pretty much hand surgery, and who has time for that?

But from time to time they do get in the way a bit (putting on gloves, hanging from an exercise bar is impossible, gripping things). So when I saw an ad for a new injection therapy, I did a little bit of Dr. Google research, and decided to ask my primary to connect me with a hand doc.

So I go into the hand doc, and she looks at my right hand and the first thing out of her mouth were the words i thought every doc was taught not to say in first year of medical school: "oh that's interesting". (I frowned.) Ultimately, she said she didn't think I'd be an appropriate candidate for the injection given progression and some other things, but then she started using words like "have a look around" and "skin grafts".

So, I still have my contractures, and I'll probably revisit them again at some point with a different doctor, but I think the conversation was absolutely worth it.

When I was in my 20s I picked up a bug at school that morphed into a nasty infection in my throat. Got home for break and my parents take me to a Dr who suggests I go straight to the ER. ER doc looks in my mouth and said "oh my god!" That's when I figured out that things were bad.

 

[Aardvark86]

I don't remember the drug (Jardiance I think), but heard a commercial the other day and they modified the song they sing during the commercial, and it actually annoyed me that they would change the OG song. Respect the classics man.

my favorite broadcast ad story was the dorothy hamill story (Celebrex, i think, one of the first broadcast ads after claritin).

While I can't remember the players, basically, she'd been taking manufacturer A's product and was stable, happy, and well-managed. Manufacturer B approached her and offered to pay her to do an ad for their product with her skating around an empty rink. So she basically stopped therapy A, let it wash out of her system, moved over to therapy B, and took the money. Where I come from, that's the definition of a whore.

 

[OrlandNole]

So I go into the hand doc, and she looks at my right hand and the first thing out of her mouth were the words i thought every doc was taught not to say in first year of medical school: "oh that's interesting". (I frowned.)

I think you misunderstood. The doctor was reacting to your small hands confirming an urban legend.

 

[Sharky1203]

It is moronic that we are aware:

The United States and New Zealand are the only two countries that allow pharmaceutical companies to directly advertise prescription drugs to the public:

We are paying to advertise the things we need to purchase. Cycle of idiocy

Couldn't agree more. It subconsciously makes people Hypochondriacs in my opinion.

 

[noStemsnoSTICKS]

The U.S. is the only place on Earth where poor people shun free healthcare and free education because rich people tell them too.

 

[BubsFinn]

The budget for these ads in the US is enormous.
Think of how that money could be spent just a little more wisely.

Those ads are not so you “ask your doctor about Bonerix.” They how the pharmaceutical companies influence the networks. They basically pay the networks billions of dollars to promote the news they want promoted and squash the news they want squashed.
Thats why CNN, MSNBC, and the rest were denouncing ivermectin during covid. Ivermectin is cheap and easily accessible. They weren’t going to make billions of dollars off a cheap, effective drug. No one said anything about vitamin D or zinc or exercise or any of the other things you could have done to decrease your risk. It was all about the vaccine. They even trashed natural immunity.

 

[BubsFinn]

my favorite broadcast ad story was the dorothy hamill story (Celebrex, i think, one of the first broadcast ads after claritin).

While I can't remember the players, basically, she'd been taking manufacturer A's product and was stable, happy, and well-managed. Manufacturer B approached her and offered to pay her to do an ad for their product with her skating around an empty rink. So she basically stopped therapy A, let it wash out of her system, moved over to therapy B, and took the money. Where I come from, that's the definition of a whore.

Before you go trashing America’s Sweetheat and hair style pioneer Dorothy Hamill (now MacColl), you should know she’s married to the guy who created a lot of those ads. And she’s one of the nicest people I’ve ever met.

 

[Aardvark86]

Before you go trashing America’s Sweetheat and hair style pioneer Dorothy Hamill (now MacColl), you should know she’s married to the guy who created a lot of those ads. And she’s one of the nicest people I’ve ever met.

nevertheless....

(one year at the Al Smith dinner, some federal judge was telling some bawdy joke, and when he mentioned the female person in the joke, somebody yelled "so and so is a ****ing whore!". The room burst into laughter, and after a slight pause, the judge continued, "nevertheless...")

 

[InsaneHawkJJP]

I don’t watch live TV other than sports and I mute commercials so I don’t hear many of them, but I still hear enough and hate the pharmaceutical ads. I do get a kick out of the ones that tell you not to take said drug if you’re allergic to said drug. I mean how fvcking stupid are people if you need to be reminded not to take the drug you’re allergic too?

 

[DFSNOLE]

I don't remember the last time I did? Granted I cut the cord about a decade ago, but have streaming services/live TV and I'm missing them if they're there. These are the last one I remember. Is it Blues Traveler? It says 2005. Probably decided to quit reminding us we need to drink. We do good enough remembering. LOL!

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Bud Light commercial

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[Aardvark86]

I don’t watch live TV other than sports and I mute commercials so I don’t hear many of them, but I still hear enough and hate the pharmaceutical ads. I do get a kick out of the ones that tell you not to take said drug if you’re allergic to said drug. I mean how fvcking stupid are people if you need to be reminded not to take the drug you’re allergic too?

that's not the manufacturer's fault, it's an FDA requirement

 

[Aardvark86]

The U.S. is the only place on Earth where poor people shun free healthcare and free education because rich people tell them too.

Perhaps there's something unique to Americans that make them realize that there are no free lunches.

 

[InsaneHawkJJP]

that's not the manufacturer's fault, it's an FDA requirement

Okay, but it’s still stupid AF.

 

[fredjr82]

Bud Light commercial

iowa.forums.rivals.com

Was that on TV or just social media? I don't remember seeing that on TV and HBOT/Reddit is my social media

 

[Aardvark86]

Okay, but it’s still stupid AF.

Totally, and Exhibit A in which the FDA's broadcast ads have had the exact opposite effect from what was intended, when it comes to apprising patients of major risks.

 

[NDallasRuss]

Ultimately, she said she didn't think I'd be an appropriate candidate for the injection given progression and some other things, but then she started using words like "have a look around" and "skin grafts".

When I was on college, I went to a blood bank with some other guys to sell plasma for beer money. The person trying to draw my blood couldn't find a vein to use, but offered to "poke around" if I wanted. I did not wanted, so I waited outside while the rest of them finished up.

 

[InsaneHawkJJP]

Was that on TV or just social media? I don't remember seeing that on TV and HBOT/Reddit is my social media

I’ve seen that BL commercial numerous times on TV during NFL games. Plenty of Coors Light commercials as well. Lots of hard liquor commercials on TV also.

 

[DFSNOLE]

Was that on TV or just social media? I don't remember seeing that on TV and HBOT/Reddit is my social media

On TV. Saw it a minimum of 20 times last weekend.

 

[noStemsnoSTICKS]

Perhaps there's something unique to Americans that make them realize that there are no free lunches.

Unless you're poor. Then there are plenty of free lunches.

 

[fredjr82]

I’ve seen that BL commercial numerous times on TV during NFL games. Plenty of Coors Light commercials as well. Lots of hard liquor commercials on TV also.

I watch Red Zone on Sundays. 8 hours of interrupted football.