I will hit the button. You are ignored.Yes, Lion cockroach.
Yes, Lee fan before Iowans ever heard of him.
Yes, hit that button.
I will hit the button. You are ignored.Yes, Lion cockroach.
Yes, Lee fan before Iowans ever heard of him.
Yes, hit that button.
Cale needs his car washed. Now move along.A higher seed wrestling hard on the backside of the NCAAs is both a “team” and “integrity” move, so when Spencer didn’t do that, fans like me soured. If it’s poor health, say so, from your own mouth, not daddy’s or some entourage member. If it’s not, be a devastated bad ass who destroys the backside and takes third for the team (see ADS). A Lion fan living 5 miles from Spencer’s HS, I rabidly cheered his career there, crushed when he lost to Austin. I rooted for 4 NCAA titles at Iowa, too, even after the arrogance rose. If you brag about winning while hurt, don’t blame health for losses. If a coach made you wrestle when you didn’t want to, don’t belittle a teammate (Ayala) only seeking your competitive best. As stated on a Lion thread, I want Lee to win a world title. He has the talent for it. Like Goggles mentioned above, when it happens is irrelevant but will surely require 100% health. Fingers crossed that a gladiator workout with Woods means he’s getting there. That said, if a chronically broken body diminishes results on a world stage, then be damn proud of what it accomplished while it could. A 3-time NCAA champ, 2-time Hodger who delivered a promised national title to his beloved Iowa. I believe he’ll someday add more as its coach.
Just not yet. For now, all USA wrestling fans should be encouraged to hear Spencer’s still in the hunt.
Just not true. You sir, are the simpleton! Woods is not going to crank on his knee. Spencer is not going to push the knee. Spencer can go hard as long as he keeps the knee out of trouble, knowing Woods isn’t going to grab the knee And twist.When did I say that wasn’t a serious injury? Lol I have a rebuilt right knee (two ACL tears from knee dislocations that stayed out, meniscus, PCL, and micro fracture.) It was a serious injury, as in I was injured, but it’s not a serious injury now, as in I’m not injured now.
Training hard enough that your face looks like that? It comes from live wrestling. If you can wrestle with someone as good as Real Woods is live when you’re not competing, then that means you are not injured. What is so complicated about this? Are you a simpleton?
Welcome to the board, let me be the first to tell you, go f*ck yourself.A higher seed wrestling hard on the backside of the NCAAs is both a “team” and “integrity” move, so when Spencer didn’t do that, fans like me soured. If it’s poor health, say so, from your own mouth, not daddy’s or some entourage member. If it’s not, be a devastated bad ass who destroys the backside and takes third for the team (see ADS). A Lion fan living 5 miles from Spencer’s HS, I rabidly cheered his career there, crushed when he lost to Austin. I rooted for 4 NCAA titles at Iowa, too, even after the arrogance rose. If you brag about winning while hurt, don’t blame health for losses. If a coach made you wrestle when you didn’t want to, don’t belittle a teammate (Ayala) only seeking your competitive best. As stated on a Lion thread, I want Lee to win a world title. He has the talent for it. Like Goggles mentioned above, when it happens is irrelevant but will surely require 100% health. Fingers crossed that a gladiator workout with Woods means he’s getting there. That said, if a chronically broken body diminishes results on a world stage, then be damn proud of what it accomplished while it could. A 3-time NCAA champ, 2-time Hodger who delivered a promised national title to his beloved Iowa. I believe he’ll someday add more as its coach.
Just not yet. For now, all USA wrestling fans should be encouraged to hear Spencer’s still in the hunt.
I would love to see SL win multiple Sr-Level World and Olympic titles. Freestyle will be a much more difficult test for his knees than college folk. In college, if SL could get a good grip on you from neutral, that match was just about over. One takedown, and a quick pin, or 1-2 period's worth of riding and turns=done. Free forces you to use mobility, power and quickness on your feet for almost the whole match...
No that is not true. I’ve drilled with guys on our feet before & I did not take a single shot. Just lots of hard hand fighting with my partner for them to take half shots. My face & forehead gets pretty beat up doing that. Have you ever wrestled or drilled before??When did I say that wasn’t a serious injury? Lol I have a rebuilt right knee (two ACL tears from knee dislocations that stayed out, meniscus, PCL, and micro fracture.) It was a serious injury, as in I was injured, but it’s not a serious injury now, as in I’m not injured now.
Training hard enough that your face looks like that? It comes from live wrestling. If you can wrestle with someone as good as Real Woods is live when you’re not competing, then that means you are not injured. What is so complicated about this? Are you a simpleton?
He hasn't blamed health for losses. He's literally said the opposite.A higher seed wrestling hard on the backside of the NCAAs is both a “team” and “integrity” move, so when Spencer didn’t do that, fans like me soured. If it’s poor health, say so, from your own mouth, not daddy’s or some entourage member. If it’s not, be a devastated bad ass who destroys the backside and takes third for the team (see ADS). A Lion fan living 5 miles from Spencer’s HS, I rabidly cheered his career there, crushed when he lost to Austin. I rooted for 4 NCAA titles at Iowa, too, even after the arrogance rose. If you brag about winning while hurt, don’t blame health for losses. If a coach made you wrestle when you didn’t want to, don’t belittle a teammate (Ayala) only seeking your competitive best. As stated on a Lion thread, I want Lee to win a world title. He has the talent for it. Like Goggles mentioned above, when it happens is irrelevant but will surely require 100% health. Fingers crossed that a gladiator workout with Woods means he’s getting there. That said, if a chronically broken body diminishes results on a world stage, then be damn proud of what it accomplished while it could. A 3-time NCAA champ, 2-time Hodger who delivered a promised national title to his beloved Iowa. I believe he’ll someday add more as its coach.
Just not yet. For now, all USA wrestling fans should be encouraged to hear Spencer’s still in the hunt.
He seemed to say they should be focusing on Ramos and how well he wrestled, and his family’s celebration, instead of his performance and his mother’s anguish.He hasn't blamed health for losses. He's literally said the opposite.
Glad to be wrong on that, then. Thought it had to be, since he didn't continue.He hasn't blamed health for losses. He's literally said the opposite.
I will hit the button. You are ignored.
Cale needs his car washed. Now move along.
Odd responses. I post support for Lee’s international goals and get “ignored” (like “cancel culture” folks who smear opposition when they can’t debate their point) and told to go away or w*rse. I’m a cockroach for coming onto a site I find interesting and fun wrestling discussion on, and, heaven forbid, may even respond to. So, are Iowa supporters on a Lion thread bugs, too? Funny how, being new to both forums, I’ve yet to see mention of the ignore button there. That crew may feel that hiding from a post is too much like an uninjured wrestler forfeiting a match he’s not confident of winning. Well, this cockroach repeats his best wishes for Lee’s return to the world stage, a thought that sent a guy with a cool avatar running for cover, and another looking to have his favorite coach’s car washed. Seriously, why so angry and flustered? I see 7 AAs and 1 champ (Woods) next March for the Hawks, 1 more of each if Steveson picks Iowa over Minny. Plus 2 shiny sports cars on the way. Not sure why you need buttons to protect you from such scary posts.Welcome to the board, let me be the first to tell you, go f*ck yourself.
Hey you twat go find another soapbox! To walk in here and think that Spencer owes you an explanation for anything is pretty damn ballsy. If you can't figure out on your own that Spencer was hurt you're a goddam idiot. This may be a cesspool but we can smell a troll from a mile away. So again, I kindly ask that you go f*ck yourself. Thank you.Odd responses. I post support for Lee’s international goals and get “ignored” (like “cancel culture” folks who smear opposition when they can’t debate their point) and told to go away or w*rse. I’m a cockroach for coming onto a site I find interesting and fun wrestling discussion on, and, heaven forbid, may even respond to. So, are Iowa supporters on a Lion thread bugs, too? Funny how, being new to both forums, I’ve yet to see mention of the ignore button there. That crew may feel that hiding from a post is too much like an uninjured wrestler forfeiting a match he’s not confident of winning. Well, this cockroach repeats his best wishes for Lee’s return to the world stage, a thought that sent a guy with a cool avatar running for cover, and another looking to have his favorite coach’s car washed. Seriously, why so angry and flustered? I see 7 AAs and 1 champ (Woods) next March for the Hawks, 1 more of each if Steveson picks Iowa over Minny. Plus 2 shiny sports cars on the way. Not sure why you need buttons to protect you from such scary posts.
Maybe it’s a reading comprehension issue. Do you not see that I’m wishing Lee the best, a young man I rooted for before you learned to swear? Earlier posts corrected me, saying Spencer “literally” said he wasn’t injured at NCAAs. Are you contradicting them, calling them names? If true, though, the next logical question would be, why not go grab 3rd for your team? That’s what ADS did after his last demoralizing loss to RBY. I don’t apologize for expecting the same from an uninjured Spencer. Not up on all the cesspool analogy (they use it over there, too), maybe not understanding “troll,” either. If it means an admitted Lion fan posting on your board (just like you guys post over there), I’m all that. Nah, won’t bother doing what you asked. Don't have all the required parts. But, hey, you can always try what the other frightened fellow did, escaping my somehow lethal posts behind a protective button. I, on the other hand, welcome your colorful abuse. Just no more tonight. Feel free to jump another troll.Hey you twat go find another soapbox! To walk in here and think that Spencer owes you an explanation for anything is pretty damn ballsy. If you can't figure out on your own that Spencer was hurt you're a goddam idiot. This may be a cesspool but we can smell a troll from a mile away. So again, I kindly ask that you go f*ck yourself. Thank you.
Hes back, hes world class, hes unstoppable, hes healthy…..until conveniently hes not….ie…first 3 rounds at nattys hes all these things then when he gets pinned hes sick, injured…etc. same at open. Looked amazing first 2/3 rounds until he has to face a formidable opponent.Thanks again doctor. You have no clue what you are talking about. Rolling around with Japanese women and sparring with a team mate are not the same as competing in the open.
You are a DUMB ASS, and World Class at that! Unstoppably stupid too!!! Now go F-off!!!!Hes back, hes world class, hes unstoppable, hes healthy…..until conveniently hes not….ie…first 3 rounds at nattys hes all these things then when he gets pinned hes sick, injured…etc. same at open. Looked amazing first 2/3 rounds until he has to face a formidable opponent.
You are a DUMB ASS, and World Class at that! Unstoppably stupid too!!! Now go F-off!!!!
I know its hard for you to hear the truth. Every word is accurate. Plus your response im guessing puts you in the IQ range of 30-32.You are a DUMB ASS, and World Class at that! Unstoppably stupid too!!! Now go F-off!!!!
Cheer for someone else then. It is really that simple. Trust me, Spencer won't mind.Hes back, hes world class, hes unstoppable, hes healthy…..until conveniently hes not….ie…first 3 rounds at nattys hes all these things then when he gets pinned hes sick, injured…etc. same at open. Looked amazing first 2/3 rounds until he has to face a formidable opponent.
I root for hawks. 40yrs. Its just ridiculous to listen to delusion fans with lee goggles on. Hes certainly one of the top 20-30 great hawks and 50 or so all time. Just nowhere in the relm of where most of you and coaches put him…..part of the reason for his setbacks. PSU talks team. Iowa-Last 5 yrs nothing but spencer. Hurts team chemistry and piles on unreachable pressure on SL. Nice work.Cheer for someone else then. It is really that simple. Trust me, Spencer won't mind.
Yeah, Spence always buckles and hides when facing "formidable " opponents. 🤣🤣Hes back, hes world class, hes unstoppable, hes healthy…..until conveniently hes not….ie…first 3 rounds at nattys hes all these things then when he gets pinned hes sick, injured…etc. same at open. Looked amazing first 2/3 rounds until he has to face a formidable opponent.
The entire team, who won a team title very recently if I recall, talked over and over about being a band of brothers who constantly cheered for each other. Chemistry seemed really good to me. As I said before, cheer for someone else if you like. Spencer Lee was a great Hawkeye and huge for Iowa wrestling imo, but hey, opinions are like a$%holes, everyone has one. You do you and I'll do me.I root for hawks. 40yrs. Its just ridiculous to listen to delusion fans with lee goggles on. Hes certainly one of the top 20-30 great hawks and 50 or so all time. Just nowhere in the relm of where most of you and coaches put him…..part of the reason for his setbacks. PSU talks team. Iowa-Last 5 yrs nothing but spencer. Hurts team chemistry and piles on unreachable pressure on SL. Nice work.
I said “a” formidable not all. And as royce alger always says…..only senior level matters. Especially at 100# cadet. Please. You obviously never competed st a high level or know very little about the sport and its history.Yeah, Spence always buckles and hides when facing "formidable " opponents. 🤣🤣
Wth?
3 time world gold champ, 3x NCAA champ, 2 time Hodge winner. No one formidable I guess in that gauntlet. 🤣🤣
You can't make this 💩 up.
Then you dont know the truth on the dynamic of the team and room.The entire team, who won a team title very recently if I recall, talked over and over about being a band of brothers who constantly cheered for each other. Chemistry seemed really good to me. As I said before, cheer for someone else if you like. Spencer Lee was a great Hawkeye and huge for Iowa wrestling imo, but hey, opinions are like a$%holes, everyone has one. You do you and I'll do me.
Perfectly said. I am a SL/hawk fan. Just realist.Guys. Simple enough, he puts way more pressure on himself than the fans do and that is saying a lot. We need to let spencer be spencer. He doesn't owe the fans sh*t. Just let him find himself and if it never happens we have a great coach. It's just a game.
The blind allegiance and “eat-your-own” mentality over here is wild. Shouldn’t disagreements be welcome, even within a fanbase band of brothers? No true wrestling fan DOESN’T know Spencer was a great and impactful Hawkeye and will continue to be for both the university and HWC. For those who must keep toggling between “he-already-said-he-wasn’t-injured” and “can’t-you-tell-he-was-injured”, at least understand why even strong Iowa/Lee fans had a sour taste after the NCAAs and USOpen. When threads like this dredge up old wounds, allow people to vent without clubbing them with insults. It’s clear that reasonable folk like MAGAman and other “realists” are avid Lee/Hawk fans who want the man and the team to succeed. Both have and will continue to.The entire team, who won a team title very recently if I recall, talked over and over about being a band of brothers who constantly cheered for each other. Chemistry seemed really good to me. As I said before, cheer for someone else if you like. Spencer Lee was a great Hawkeye and huge for Iowa wrestling imo, but hey, opinions are like a$%holes, everyone has one. You do you and I'll do me.
Do you have to work on being such a loser or does it come natural?I know its hard for you to hear the truth. Every word is accurate. Plus your response im guessing puts you in the IQ range of 30-32.
The legendary IRONBIRD. Yes, I’m prepared for a single line smackdown that calls me a putz, cockroach, idiot, a-hole, loser, toadie, pond-scum, invader, defiler, usurper, saboteur, troll, goblin, orc, and “plenty damn many when you want one more (Combs, Luke)”, ending with F*off!!! Hell, maybe I deserve it for earlier cheap shots (tweetybird, babybird). That said, I’m no fan of smearing people with a broad brush, like how you’re described in the Lion’s den. You may be everything they say, as long as they remember to add “passionate about his team.” For what a troll’s opinion is worth, MAGAman is on YOUR side, the one with Hawkeyes! Save your top shelf, 100-proof venom for old fools like me from the other camp. In fact, fire away. I’m anxious to see what foul thing I am today. Whatever it is, it’ll stand without any of my smart-ass replies. Gotta run. Have a good evening.Do you have to work on being such a loser or does it come natural?
This is where you’re wrong if he ever goes out of the country to compete he will not be lacing and getting guys quickly. Those guys will not be from Indiana, Wyoming.SL has both an excellent gut and lace. A lot of matches will be ended early...even quicker than in folk.
Hes certainly one of the top 20-30 great hawks and 50 or so all time.
A femalehe also recently kicked the but of a multiple time world and olympic champ
She had it coming.A female
You can go **** yourself! ❤️😎A higher seed wrestling hard on the backside of the NCAAs is both a “team” and “integrity” move, so when Spencer didn’t do that, fans like me soured. If it’s poor health, say so, from your own mouth, not daddy’s or some entourage member. If it’s not, be a devastated bad ass who destroys the backside and takes third for the team (see ADS). A Lion fan living 5 miles from Spencer’s HS, I rabidly cheered his career there, crushed when he lost to Austin. I rooted for 4 NCAA titles at Iowa, too, even after the arrogance rose. If you brag about winning while hurt, don’t blame health for losses. If a coach made you wrestle when you didn’t want to, don’t belittle a teammate (Ayala) only seeking your competitive best. As stated on a Lion thread, I want Lee to win a world title. He has the talent for it. Like Goggles mentioned above, when it happens is irrelevant but will surely require 100% health. Fingers crossed that a gladiator workout with Woods means he’s getting there. That said, if a chronically broken body diminishes results on a world stage, then be damn proud of what it accomplished while it could. A 3-time NCAA champ, 2-time Hodger who delivered a promised national title to his beloved Iowa. I believe he’ll someday add more as its coach.
Just not yet. For now, all USA wrestling fans should be encouraged to hear Spencer’s still in the hunt.
Not sure why you are responding to a post I made that has nothing to do with you? Also not sure what to take from this silliness other then I am famous on some POS board that I have never even seen!!! That is impressive, but the reason is clear. I am a realist who tells it 100% as it is! Many in todays wuss-a-fide world, do not like that!The legendary IRONBIRD. Yes, I’m prepared for a single line smackdown that calls me a putz, cockroach, idiot, a-hole, loser, toadie, pond-scum, invader, defiler, usurper, saboteur, troll, goblin, orc, and “plenty damn many when you want one more (Combs, Luke)”, ending with F*off!!! Hell, maybe I deserve it for earlier cheap shots (tweetybird, babybird). That said, I’m no fan of smearing people with a broad brush, like how you’re described in the Lion’s den. You may be everything they say, as long as they remember to add “passionate about his team.” For what a troll’s opinion is worth, MAGAman is on YOUR side, the one with Hawkeyes! Save your top shelf, 100-proof venom for old fools like me from the other camp. In fact, fire away. I’m anxious to see what foul thing I am today. Whatever it is, it’ll stand without any of my smart-ass replies. Gotta run. Have a good evening.
HalfwayNot sure why you are responding to a post I made that has nothing to do with you? Also not sure what to take from this silliness other then I am famous on some POS board that I have never even seen!!! That is impressive, but the reason is clear. I am a realist who tells it 100% as it is! Many in todays wuss-a-fide world, do not like that!
Really do not care!!! Why are you defending a so called HAWK fan anyway? I will add, that to me, it does not matter what you CLAIM to be!!! I will take what you DO/your actions as a way to make a judgement about you.
A great coach I had would say about people like you. "you would piss on my back and tell me it is raining." That is what many here are and what seems to be your entire PUSSYcat wanna be fan base is!?!?!?Just a bunch of lying piles of crap!!!
Guy made stupid claims and then reported them as fact! Even said IOWAs team is not close knit as every wrestler you can speak with clearly says!!! WTF is that??? How should that be taken???
So go back to your garbage board, let them all know that I own them and do not even have to ever go there to do it!!!
OH, and go take a hike while you are at it, LOL I will leave you with this question since you are a hiker.
How far can you hike in a park?
Exactly….finally logic and realityThis is where you’re wrong if he ever goes out of the country to compete he will not be lacing and getting guys quickly. Those guys will not be from Indiana, Wyoming.
It will be fun when SL gets back to form and makes all you saps dumn asses...😋Exactly….finally logic and reality