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Spencer Lee will medically forfeit from the wrestle back round

4th title as opposed to 3rd place? Come on. And again, I’ll wager tnt did this. And good for them if they did.
 
I said staff. And a recent former NC and all time Hawk. In the suite with Tom’s family There was ALOT of concern this morning about his whereabouts. Folks legit worried about him. I have no clue why I’m explaining myself to you.

You should stay the **** off the forums for awhile. Claiming to be an insider while spreading misinformation.
 
You should stay the **** off the forums for awhile. Claiming to be an insider while spreading misinformation.
I don’t claim shit. You project it. Reading comprehension is tough today. I got a phone call from Tom’s families suite and regrettably posted it here. I shouldn’t have. That’s my bad.

Shouldn’t you be waiting in line for your next COVID jab anyway??
 
Lol. Okay chief. Take it up with Tom’s family and the donors and former wrestlers who were very concerned when he was nowhere to be found this morning.
Had to be similar to Daniel Dennis… I was there and at the Hawk party and asked a few of the guys/coaches one I am especially close with if he was ok and they said they were watching him closely.
 
Sure. But why could he wrestle last night and not this morning? That's what everyone is getting at. Did something change in the last 16 hours other than the fact that he lost? Did his health change during that time? If so, let's hear it Mr. In-The-Know. If not, and the loss is all that changed, then the 'excuses are for wusses' thing loses a ton of credibility if you only believe that when you're winning.

Spencer is amazing to watch. He is one of the GOATs. But if he could've wrestled today, he should have wrestled today. And he wrestled last night, so...
Couldn't this be said about every wrestler who MFFs?
 
Agree to disagree I guess, but I think coming back for third is a huge deal. If you can't get first, get the next best thing. Or is that just coach-speak BS?

I still think Spencer is legendary status for what he's accomplished.

However, he was able to wrestle last night. Why not today? If he sustained a new injury in the Ramos match or had some sort of new health crisis since that match, then I fully understand not wrestling. Otherwise, if you're good to go on the front side, you should be good to go on the back side. Don't treat coming back for third place like it isn't important.

What are we saying? Excuses are for wusses, but only in the championship bracket? Excuses are for wusses, but I don't want to take any risks now that I lost?

Like I said, agree to disagree I guess.

You have no clue what he's dealing with right now, nor do I. You have no clue what was discussed regarding him going out there today, nor who made the final decision. I trust those in that room are in a better position to make that call than all the keyboard warriors out there today.

The kid sacrificed his attempt at Gold in the last Olympics for The University of Iowa, let's hope Paris 2024 isn't out of the question at this point. To further risk that opportunity would be foolish.
 
Couldn't this be said about every wrestler who MFFs?
Not if there's a new injury that occurred to change the situation (E.G. Munoz tearing his knee during last night's match against Keckeisen).

I understand Spencer does not have healthy knees and I think it's amazing what he has accomplished in spite of that. But, if his health has not changed since prior to the Ramos match, then I think he should have wrestled today. Why are you able to wrestle in the championship bracket but not in the consis?

That's just me and I know many disagree and Spencer sure as heck probably doesn't care what any of us think (and I'm not saying he should).
 
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Are you his doctor? No offense but you probably shouldn't be calling others stupid if you don't understand hipaa.
They qualify as "staff" now? Lol
No offense taken. You haven’t read through the thread either. Don’t bother. And yes…. An employee of the university of Iowa that works for the wrestling team.
 
Threads like this reminded me of 2 things. First, why dog is 'man's best friend'. Second, the response from a 109 year old woman who, when asked what the secret to long life was, responded "Avoiding people". 🙂 Life is too short folks, relax, don't judge, have some empathy, don't feed negativity, and have a sense of humor.

Very sad Spencer wasn't able to achieve this part of his dream, but proud and amazed at all he has accomplished and overcome. Onward and upward Spencer, whatever the next road may be.

2nd place in the team race is pretty darn good. Go Hawks!

Edit to add - proud as hell of every Hawk, regardless of their place.
 
did it occur to your beetle brain that the firestorm was exacerbated by Gobblin's fake news?

yeah, but i'm the problem here. lol
Bitch tits > beetle brain

It's like you're not even trying to be creative with the insults anymore.

You could've gone after much more egregious, but you didn't.

And yes, yes you are a problem.
 
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No offense taken. You haven’t read through the thread either. Don’t bother. And yes…. An employee of the university of Iowa that works for the wrestling team.
Honestly I don’t think you should be posting this kind of insider stuff. It kind of feels like an invasion of Spencer’s privacy.
 
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It’s not a great look. For those of us not connected, I can honestly share it didn’t feel great. If news comes out later that suggests continued wrestling could have hurt him worse, then all good. If not, it kind of feels not great. But no judgments as of now…
 
He was one of those Covid freaks wasn’t he
THEE worst. He made it personal first calling those with a different opinion every derogatory term in the book. His opinion was fact. Priceless to think back on that. 😂😂🤣
 
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It’s a message board call down
Now this is the response I think you should have lead with instead of basically coming out and saying I know but i'm not going to tell you because i'm better than you. I'm sure that isn't the way you meant it but it does come arcoss like that. I would always support the answer that Spencer or Tom will explain the situation in due time if they so choose. That is exactly who should release any information medical or personal. I'm not entitled to know nor is anyone else unless the effected party wants to share. So to everyone that is pissed because Undercover or Gobblin choose not to share something they know need to just move on. Yes maybe they could share known info., but don't fell comfortable with saying anything, because they would rather it came from the horses mouth if it wants to talk.
I’m sure it will come out what happened. I know this for sure though, I have 3 young boys and by God’s grace if they have the talent I hope Spencer can coach them one day.
 
Bitch tits > beetle brain

It's like you're not even trying to be creative with the insults anymore.

You could've gone after much more egregious, but you didn't.

And yes, yes you are a problem.
He’s twat on the keyboard but I bet it would a lot of fun knocking back some red labels with him at a nice watering hole.
 
Not if there's a new injury that occurred to change the situation (E.G. Munoz tearing his knee during last night's match against Keckeisen).

I understand Spencer does not have healthy knees and I think it's amazing what he has accomplished in spite of that. But, if his health has not changed since prior to the Ramos match, then I think he should have wrestled today. Why are you able to wrestle in the championship bracket but not in the consis?

That's just me and I know many disagree and Spencer sure as heck probably doesn't care what any of us think (and I'm not saying he should).
What you’re saying is, (this is just an example) if somebody tears a bicep in the quarterfinals, but hangs on to win, then wrestles injured in the semifinals and gets beat. They should then wrestle in the consolations with the torn bicep because “his health has not changed since the prior match”.

That’s some idiotic logic IMO.
 
What you’re saying is, (this is just an example) if somebody tears a bicep in the quarterfinals, but hangs on to win, then wrestles injured in the semifinals and gets beat. They should then wrestle in the consolations with the torn bicep because “his health has not changed since the prior match”.

That’s some idiotic logic IMO.
Why are they wrestling in the semifinals with a torn bicep? And if it's not so bad they can't compete in the semis, then why can't they compete in the consis? IMO, what it amounts to is that you're devaluing the consis, which is something I won't do.

Agree to disagree I guess.
 
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My favorite part of this thread was Gobblin saying Spencer wasn’t in Oklahoma per his “sources” and then later posted an update that he was in the building like he got a tip from his sources even though Ironside said he was in the building moments before. Then he gets upset that people called him out for it. I love this board
 
My favorite part of this thread was Gobblin saying Spencer wasn’t in Oklahoma per his “sources” and then later posted an update that he was in the building like he got a tip from his sources even though Ironside said he was in the building moments before. Then he gets upset that people called him out for it. I love this board
Several others, many ex Hawk wrestlers we reporting th same thing. Push the narrative you like, but it was 100% a real thing in Tulsa. Everyone found out by him strolling in during Cass match. I got sent a picture when they saw him. Cope.
 
Several others, many ex Hawk wrestlers we reporting th same thing. Push the narrative you like, but it was 100% a real thing in Tulsa. Everyone found out by him strolling in during Cass match. I got sent a picture when they saw him. Cope.
Wasn’t me that was pushing a narrative. Tell your national champion friend I might be Thomas Gilman. But if you would also, ask him why you weren’t invited to the box seats with the other insiders.
 
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Wasn’t me that was pushing a narrative. Tell your national champion friend I might be Thomas Gilman. But if you would also, ask him why you weren’t invited to the box seats with the other insiders.
I was, but we’re headed for Florida in 2 weeks. Couldn’t swing both. And their not insiders.. Just family of athletes, donors, and ex Hawkeyes. Anymore “gotcha” attempts?
 
Why are they wrestling in the semifinals with a torn bicep? And if it's not so bad they can't compete in the semis, then why can't they compete in the consis? IMO, what it amounts to is that you're devaluing the consis, which is something I won't do.

Agree to disagree I guess.

Because they are fighting through it for a chance at title, not 3rd or 5th at that point. This isn't hard to understand, and it happens every single year. Are you new to college wrestling?

I'm not trying to be rude here, but this hardly a new thing.
 
Because they are fighting through it for a chance at title, not 3rd or 5th at that point. This isn't hard to understand, and it happens every single year. Are you new to college wrestling?
That’s a real safe bet.
 
I was, but we’re headed for Florida in 2 weeks. Couldn’t swing both. Anymore “gotcha” attempts?
I’m sure they appreciate your texts about what people are posting on a message board while they try to enjoy nationals.
No more gotchas, you already got yourself. DJ Khalid style
 
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