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So, how will the rest of the list go?
Yeah, senior year Drew Tate killed junior year Drew Tate.If there is one thing Kirk Fernetz has proven in his tenure it is that his QBs get better as they get older.
So, how will the rest of the list go?
I'm still surprised by the optimism on Stanley. He is still immobile, takes forever to go through his reads and can't accurately throw a long ball.
I like your optimism, but Iowa's history with senior quarterbacks starting for their 3rd year, doesn't play out that way.So, how will the rest of the list go?
I like your optimism, but Iowa's history with senior quarterbacks starting for their 3rd year, doesn't play out that way.
It's a false equivalence. If you have any memory of those seasons or do any research, it falls apart.How many QB’s does this cover under KF?
It's a false equivalence. If you have any memory of those seasons or do any research, it falls apart.
First of all, only 4 Iowa QBs have started multiple years up to their Sr. year under KF.
Drew Tate fought numerous injuries and completely missed at least 1 game his Sr year.
Ricky Stanzi's Sr year was fantastic in a statistical sense, and the problems had much more to do with injuries on the OL and on defense.
Vandenberg lost the best WR in school history and was a stopgap in the horrendous GD experiment.
Beathard was much more injured than they let on, and was missing his top 2 targets for most of the year (Vandeberg and Kittle), plus GD.
I'm not guaranteeing a stellar year for Stanley, but the "KF Sr QB Regression" is a load of shit.
Stanly has lots of tangibles on paper. I expect him to do quite well.So, how will the rest of the list go?
I hope I'm wrong. I really do.It's a false equivalence. If you have any memory of those seasons or do any research, it falls apart.
First of all, only 4 Iowa QBs have started multiple years up to their Sr. year under KF.
Drew Tate fought numerous injuries and completely missed at least 1 game his Sr year.
Ricky Stanzi's Sr year was fantastic in a statistical sense, and the problems had much more to do with injuries on the OL and on defense.
Vandenberg lost the best WR in school history and was a stopgap in the horrendous GD experiment.
Beathard was much more injured than they let on, and was missing his top 2 targets for most of the year (Vandeberg and Kittle), plus GD.
I'm not guaranteeing a stellar year for Stanley, but the "KF Sr QB Regression" is a load of shit.
Keegan renders helmet is no longer on the team for his thumbs sake.Love the optimism. Hope he can trust himself enough to make plays this year. It would be a difference maker.
*And hopefully doesn''t overthrow his TE running alone past the secondary.
There’s no reason not to be optimistic.
What’s the worst that can happen - a little disappointment?
Enjoy the rise guys.
Best QB room we’ve ever had.
Recruiting improving year over year.
Coaches not settling, maturing into roles.
Putting more players in the NFL than we ever have — earlier.
Star studded defense under a better system than we ran even five years ago.
We’re improving at our worst position, and we just added a 4* gem.
KF is breaking into his prime as a skipper — and you’d already know that if we had just learned to close out games and run the damn rock last year.
I’ve seen the future — and it’s glorious!
Best qb room we've ever had? Kirk in his prime? LoL. You'd think we just came off a playoff run and conference title last year. Delusion!!!There’s no reason not to be optimistic.
What’s the worst that can happen - a little disappointment?
Enjoy the rise guys.
Best QB room we’ve ever had.
Recruiting improving year over year.
Coaches not settling, maturing into roles.
Putting more players in the NFL than we ever have — earlier.
Star studded defense under a better system than we ran even five years ago.
We’re improving at our worst position, and we just added a 4* gem.
KF is breaking into his prime as a skipper — and you’d already know that if we had just learned to close out games and run the damn rock last year.
I’ve seen the future — and it’s glorious!
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
“Kirk coming into his prime....”. Just in time for his 25th year in charge. Excellent. Will we be getting yet another Division title in the next 15 years?
Remember, last year at this same time, when you told me that Ivory Kelly Martin was the greatest running back we’d ever had at Iowa? I can bump that thread if you’d like.
What a load of garbage.
Please do bump that thread. I don’t ever recall holding IKM in such high regard.
I think IKM has the potential to be the best RB we’ve had in Ferentz’s tenure. This year will prove it IMO.
My goodness. Best ever, huh?
Yup. Best combination of small backs and big backs. In the top echelon in terms of speed. Elusive, but not shifty. Smooth. Great body control.
Ok, “potential” and “greatest ever” are two completely different things. And I still believe in his potential — that he has the highest ceiling of all the backs in our room.
I’m going to step back and say that he’s not going to make it to Shonn Greene’s league, but if he’s healthy he’ll lead in yards per carry, and he’ll be a difference maker down the stretch to our division title.
Come on Chuck — there’s only sunshine. It’s not about you Or me being right — it’s about wanting the best for our guys this year. And that means winning every game. Big time players making big plays in big games.
“Realistically” how many conference championships do you feel entitled to over the past 15 years? I think they’ve got what they earned. And despite the league getting deeper and better, with much better coaching we’re still in a position to be better than we were last year. What’s not to like?
Those are exaggerations if I've ever heard them. The closest one to truth relates to Nate's mobility. However, Nate does a decent job of cycling through his progressions ... and his long ball has been improving. Kirk has encouraged him to "loosen up" to some extent ... if he can do that, we'll see less "aiming" ... and more "passing."I'm still surprised by the optimism on Stanley. He is still immobile, takes forever to go through his reads and can't accurately throw a long ball.
I think it's a testament to the ignorance of your average fan that a guy could be primed to take the all-time record for TD passes at his school and still some people want him benched.Those are exaggerations if I've ever heard them. The closest one to truth relates to Nate's mobility. However, Nate does a decent job of cycling through his progressions ... and his long ball has been improving. Kirk has encouraged him to "loosen up" to some extent ... if he can do that, we'll see less "aiming" ... and more "passing."
Besides ... Stanley had much of the O flowing through him in 2018. His 396 pass attempts were the most attempts by any individual Iowa QB since Vandenberg's 404 attempts in 2011.
I highly doubt we go 4 wide very often this season. Nor should we.Another thing that’s going to help NS. The spread offense.
We’re going to see less 11 personnel and more 4wide, because we have legit playmakers at WR.
I highly doubt we go 4 wide very often this season. Nor should we.
It's gonna be like usual, heavy amounts of 12 and 21 personnel, setting up the pass through the run, and honestly that's where Nate works best. His play takes are great and the protection is usually there as well.
There you go interjecting some facts into the discussion, darn it.It's a false equivalence. If you have any memory of those seasons or do any research, it falls apart.
First of all, only 4 Iowa QBs have started multiple years up to their Sr. year under KF.
Drew Tate fought numerous injuries and completely missed at least 1 game his Sr year.
Ricky Stanzi's Sr year was fantastic in a statistical sense, and the problems had much more to do with injuries on the OL and on defense.
Vandenberg lost the best WR in school history and was a stopgap in the horrendous GD experiment.
Beathard was much more injured than they let on, and was missing his top 2 targets for most of the year (Vandeberg and Kittle), plus GD.
I'm not guaranteeing a stellar year for Stanley, but the "KF Sr QB Regression" is a load of shit.
I think the jury is still out on the TE's. The word has been that Beyer is a very good athlete, as Cook might be, and Weiting is a very experienced inline guy. As many bemoaned last season we didn't play Hock and Fant that much together, so we might not be too bad off. Time will tell........I’m not saying you’ll see it every third down, but when we look at the matchups our 3rd and 4th WRs are going to win a lot. And we’re lacking the athleticism we’ve had at TE.
I think you’ll be surprised. Isolating our RBs (IKM, Sargent, Goodson) in space will be a mismatch as well. And we’ll likely run from the spread as well.
Should he win one this season, Nate will only have won 3 bowl games. He played in the 2017 Outback which we lost, and won't be eligible for a 5th barring a catastrophe this year.you know... Nate Stanley is 8-0 in non conference games...
and he's destined to be the all time TD's Thrown leader in Iowa Hawkeye history.
when is the last time an Iowa quarterback went 3-0 in bowl games?
Stanley just might be 5-0 when its all said and done.
it would be poetic... beat Long's career TD passes... and then match his 5 bowl games.
to me... having a 4 WR set doesn't make you a spread offense...
we've seen a number of these 4 WR sets the last several years.
we've seen Stanley audible into a 4 wideout set.
I think we were in a 4WR set against Michigan a few years back on a 2 point conversion
when Falconer dropped an easy conversion
I have complete confidence in the passing game
3 TD passes to WR's against Mississippi State is impressive.
and Stanley didn't miss the deep throw to Easley in that one either.
and that pass to Marsette for the touchdown was perfection.
we are NOT going to have issues with the pass game.
if we can run the ball... its gonna be 2015 all over again with a little better offense.
Should he win one this season, Nate will only have won 3 bowl games. He played in the 2017 Outback which we lost, and won't be eligible for a 5th barring a catastrophe this year.
Last and only Iowa QB to go 3-0 in bowl games was Stanzi. 2009 Outback, 2010 Orange, 2010 Insight.