Stop underselling Iowa

[GOHOX69]

The Iowa job is premier. There are coaches who would cut their left nutsack to coach here. Both basketball and football. Clear the pipes of the constipation that is Farta, Ferentz and Fran.

Coaches would kill to come here.

Quit the bs with blah Iowa, mediocre. blah. This isn't freaking Ames man.

FYI, Nutlicker was national coach of the year when he was hired, at Butler. A team that punched well above its weight.

Fran was munching on philly cheese steaks at Toyota Sienna, a great minivan.

And for f's sake, end the nepotism. It never winds up well. In anything, anywhere, forever.

 

[TRHawkeye145]

yep - but but.... Lick

 

[GOHOX69]

yep - but but.... Lick

Point I am making is when he was hired, Lick was actually king of the world. No one can predict the future and he was justifiably let go. Wtf is the deal with retaining Fran?

 

[BubsFinn]

The Iowa job is premier. There are coaches who would cut their left nutsack to coach here. Both basketball and football. Clear the pipes of the constipation that is Farta, Ferentz and Fran.

Coaches would kill to come here.

Quit the bs with blah Iowa, mediocre. blah. This isn't freaking Ames man.

FYI, Nutlicker was national coach of the year when he was hired, at Butler. A team that punched well above its weight.

Fran was munching on philly cheese steaks at Toyota Sienna, a great minivan.

And for f's sake, end the nepotism. It never winds up well. In anything, anywhere, forever.

Coaches would kill to come here because no matter how you screw up, you’re not getting fired. So yeah, coaches who are worried about getting the axe for sucking, love the idea of coaching at Iowa.

 

[TRHawkeye145]

And honestly - even if we do get a dud - who cares? In this age of college bball - you can build a team quickly and know whether a coach is worth a shit or not. Then get someone else.

I would rather take that risk than living in purgatory

 

[CerroGordoHawk]

Point I am making is when he was hired, Lick was actually king of the world. No one can predict the future and he was justifiably let go. Wtf is the deal with retaining Fran?

Same thing with Alford; he was a hot prospect at the time of his hiring. The problem is all the homers view Alford and Lickliter through hindsight and use that as a reason to never change coaches.

 

[GOHOX69]

Same thing with Alford; he was a hot prospect at the time of his hiring. The problem is all the homers view Alford and Lickliter through hindsight and use that as a reason to never change coaches.

This is 10000000% spot on. I called it information paralysis. Like when you know what you should really do, but instead try to justify repeated stupid decisions regardless of how contrary it is to sane information, because you secretly are a pussy and can't pull the trigger.

 

[BubsFinn]

Same thing with Alford; he was a hot prospect at the time of his hiring. The problem is all the homers view Alford and Lickliter through hindsight and use that as a reason to never change coaches.

Alford’s big problem was that he expected to be treated in Iowa City the same way he saw Bob Knights treated in Bloomington. If he hadn’t been such a giant prick, I think he wouldn’t have been criticized quite so much for the Pierce situation, and he might have stuck around long enough to build a winner.

 

[83Hawk]

The Iowa job is premier. There are coaches who would cut their left nutsack to coach here. Both basketball and football. Clear the pipes of the constipation that is Farta, Ferentz and Fran.

Coaches would kill to come here.

Quit the bs with blah Iowa, mediocre. blah. This isn't freaking Ames man.

FYI, Nutlicker was national coach of the year when he was hired, at Butler. A team that punched well above its weight.

Fran was munching on philly cheese steaks at Toyota Sienna, a great minivan.

And for f's sake, end the nepotism. It never winds up well. In anything, anywhere, forever.

Agree!

Anyone who plays the "No good coach will come to Iowa" card is trashing the University as far as I'm concerned.

 

[lucas80]

Alford’s big problem was that he expected to be treated in Iowa City the same way he saw Bob Knights treated in Bloomington. If he hadn’t been such a giant prick, I think he wouldn’t have been criticized quite so much for the Pierce situation, and he might have stuck around long enough to build a winner.

This except the PP situation. Alford stepped into a pile with his decision to go all in for PP. He alienated a lot of fans, and gave the program/university a ton of bad press.

 

[hawkifann]

The Iowa job is premier. There are coaches who would cut their left nutsack to coach here. Both basketball and football. Clear the pipes of the constipation that is Farta, Ferentz and Fran.

Coaches would kill to come here.

Quit the bs with blah Iowa, mediocre. blah. This isn't freaking Ames man.

FYI, Nutlicker was national coach of the year when he was hired, at Butler. A team that punched well above its weight.

Fran was munching on philly cheese steaks at Toyota Sienna, a great minivan.

And for f's sake, end the nepotism. It never winds up well. In anything, anywhere, forever.

So we’re now 100% against coach’s kids playing for their dad? It happens at a lot of places. I have no issue with that as long as they’re legit recruits. Both Connor and Patrick were highly rated enough to be legit major college recruits and when you factor in Connor playing baseball also for several years, that does reduce the list of potential spots.

 

[lucas80]

The Iowa job is premier. There are coaches who would cut their left nutsack to coach here. Both basketball and football. Clear the pipes of the constipation that is Farta, Ferentz and Fran.

Coaches would kill to come here.

Quit the bs with blah Iowa, mediocre. blah. This isn't freaking Ames man.

FYI, Nutlicker was national coach of the year when he was hired, at Butler. A team that punched well above its weight.

Fran was munching on philly cheese steaks at Toyota Sienna, a great minivan.

And for f's sake, end the nepotism. It never winds up well. In anything, anywhere, forever.

Not to seem snarky, but do you remember who Lickliter and Fran beat out for the job? A search firm was used each time, but the list of rumored coaches was underwhelming.
When the job comes open again Iowa needs an AD who will take the challenge of hiring such an important position, and put it squarely on their shoulders.

 

[hawkifann]

Coaches would kill to come here because no matter how you screw up, you’re not getting fired. So yeah, coaches who are worried about getting the axe for sucking, love the idea of coaching at Iowa.

Which Iowa coach has “sucked” and got to keep going?

 

[lucas80]

The Iowa job is premier. There are coaches who would cut their left nutsack to coach here. Both basketball and football. Clear the pipes of the constipation that is Farta, Ferentz and Fran.

Coaches would kill to come here.

Quit the bs with blah Iowa, mediocre. blah. This isn't freaking Ames man.

FYI, Nutlicker was national coach of the year when he was hired, at Butler. A team that punched well above its weight.

Fran was munching on philly cheese steaks at Toyota Sienna, a great minivan.

And for f's sake, end the nepotism. It never winds up well. In anything, anywhere, forever.

What is your take on Hannah Bluder? Nobody ever seems to care that Lisa has her daughter on staff.

 

[BubsFinn]

Which Iowa coach has “sucked” and got to keep going?

Brian?

 

[hawkifann]

What is your take on Hannah Bluder? Nobody ever seems to care that Lisa has her daughter on staff.

Nobody cared about Brian and James Ferentz playing at Iowa either, when they were all-conference and got NFL looks.

 

[hawkifann]

Brian?

I thought we were talking head coaches, but I’ll grant this one. No head coach at Iowa in a major or close to major sport has “sucked” and stayed forever. Lick didn’t even get 5 years.

 

[tippet1]

Not to seem snarky, but do you remember who Lickliter and Fran beat out for the job? A search firm was used each time, but the list of rumored coaches was underwhelming.
When the job comes open again Iowa needs an AD who will take the challenge of hiring such an important position, and put it squarely on their shoulders.

Kevin Stallings was one.

 

[General Tso]

The Iowa job is premier. There are coaches who would cut their left nutsack to coach here. Both basketball and football. Clear the pipes of the constipation that is Farta, Ferentz and Fran.

Coaches would kill to come here.

Quit the bs with blah Iowa, mediocre. blah. This isn't freaking Ames man.

FYI, Nutlicker was national coach of the year when he was hired, at Butler. A team that punched well above its weight.

Fran was munching on philly cheese steaks at Toyota Sienna, a great minivan.

And for f's sake, end the nepotism. It never winds up well. In anything, anywhere, forever.

Clear the pipes of the constipation. Line of the year candidate. Constipated is the perfect term to describe MFB and MBB.

 

[lucas80]

Kevin Stallings was one.

Yep, he was considered by many a solid candidate, and Iowa dodged a bullet.
I cannot recall any of the coaches who were rumored to be in the running the last two times who have had great careers since failing to get the Iowa job.

 

[tippet1]

Yep, he was considered by many a solid candidate, and Iowa dodged a bullet.
I cannot recall any of the coaches who were rumored to be in the running the last two times who have had great careers since failing to get the Iowa job.

Dana Altman was another.

 

[HawkLogic]

Barta took the easy way out as AD and just kept extended contracts to McCaffery to the point where he has zero leverage. Fran not getting any consideration at all for the Notre Dame job shows Fran doesn't have outside options that can compete with what Iowa already pays him + the leeway he gets in implementing the At-least-One Mccaffery Rule of playing time.

I would like to see the end of extending Fran's contracts and let the buyout decrease over time so that there is
some flexibility to hire the next coach.

The Drake coach Devries and his kid would be a big upgrade for Iowa, but the stars are not aligned to let it happen. Tucker Devries alone is better than Connor, Patrick, Jack combined.

 

[lucas80]

Dana Altman was another.

Was he really a candidate? His name got thrown around, but I don't think he was a viable candidate, who was actually interviewed, was he?

 

[tippet1]

Was he really a candidate? His name got thrown around, but I don't think he was a viable candidate, who was actually interviewed, was he?

My understanding is he was interviewed.

 

[hawkeye54545]

The Iowa job is premier. There are coaches who would cut their left nutsack to coach here. Both basketball and football. Clear the pipes of the constipation that is Farta, Ferentz and Fran.

Coaches would kill to come here.

Quit the bs with blah Iowa, mediocre. blah. This isn't freaking Ames man.

FYI, Nutlicker was national coach of the year when he was hired, at Butler. A team that punched well above its weight.

Fran was munching on philly cheese steaks at Toyota Sienna, a great minivan.

And for f's sake, end the nepotism. It never winds up well. In anything, anywhere, forever.

I can think of 3 Iowa sports to use as examples for your last sentence.

 

[hawkifann]

Barta took the easy way out as AD and just kept extended contracts to McCaffery to the point where he has zero leverage. Fran not getting any consideration at all for the Notre Dame job shows Fran doesn't have outside options that can compete with what Iowa already pays him + the leeway he gets in implementing the At-least-One Mccaffery Rule of playing time.

I would like to see the end of extending Fran's contracts and let the buyout decrease over time so that there is
some flexibility to hire the next coach.

The Drake coach Devries and his kid would be a big upgrade for Iowa, but the stars are not aligned to let it happen. Tucker Devries alone is better than Connor, Patrick, Jack combined.

But getting Devries and Devries would be nepotism.

 

[skydog0784]

I agree with OP. The IA job has to be considered a top coaching job.

• Playing in the most wealthy, well attended by fans, and highest viewership conference in the country.
• A very competitive NIL.
• A relatively affluent state that loves the Iowa Hawkeyes above pretty much everything else aside from God, family and friends (and even that is debatable).
• Decent, but not top notch recruiting ground close to major metropolitan areas like Chicago (which a lot of suburban Chicago students attend IA), St. Louis, and Twin Cities.
• Solid football program that can be leveraged for recruiting purposes.
• A national visibility despite being a small state in the midwest.

I fall in line with the people that are ready for a change. We can do better.

 

[amahawk]

What is your take on Hannah Bluder? Nobody ever seems to care that Lisa has her daughter on staff.

A 50 pt. NCAA win covers a lot of sins.

 

[BVHawkeye]

This except the PP situation. Alford stepped into a pile with his decision to go all in for PP. He alienated a lot of fans, and gave the program/university a ton of bad press.

I have it from a very good source that every action Alford took regarding Pierce was ordered from above. Take it for what it’s worth but my source is solid.