Shouldn't we all be immune now if that’s true?
Study sez: Having SARS-CoV-2 once confers much greater immunity than a vaccine...
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Shouldn't we all be immune now if that’s true?
Don't go poking holes in his [conspiracy]theories.
Exactly.
You’ve been lied to for 18+ months yet still persist in drinking (some of) the Kool-Aid.
So…having the virus does not provide immunity? I’m confused.
The important thing is whether or not it's filling their hospitals and morgues.
Being fed constant lies’ll do that to a person.
So why aren’t we at herd immunity? The experts (on hrot and elsewhere) tell us the coronavirus (esp Delta) has a much higher R0 than influenza, which can infect 40 million + people in 4-5 months.
But we’ve only had 40 million covid cases in a span 4X that long - or longer? Doesn’t make sense. The CDC estimated there might be > 6 times as many cases as people officially diagnosed, so we have had
> 240 million infections? Maybe.
Throw in another 204 million Americans with at least one shot, shouldn’t we have immunity by now? Probably.
But now we’ll be needing a booster every 8 months? 6 months? Or will it end up being 2? Who knows.
Pretty sure keeping everyone confused is all part of the plan.
Best of luck.
Still confused. You were laughing at anyone who thought there were people who still hadn’t been exposed. This suggests you think everyone has been exposed. Now you’re saying exactly the opposite.
I didn't bother to read the entire thread. Can you give an executive summary of your beliefs?
No I’m not. I’m asking where our herd immunity went: the numbers would indicate we are there (IF we’re not being lied to). Was it supposed to be like this?
Israel — a country that seemed to have all but beaten the pandemic just two and a half months ago — has reached a dire landmark, with 7,030 Israelis succumbing to the disease since the onset of the pandemic early last year.
Lies for profit. Just trust the experts. Carry on.
Israel sees highest single-day virus caseload since beginning of pandemic
Health Ministry data show previous record was eclipsed Monday after 10,946 Israelis tested positive for pathogen in 24 hours; with day before start of new school year, 91,000 kindergarteners and school students reported to be in isolation
No I’m not. I’m asking where our herd immunity went: the numbers would indicate we are there (IF we’re not being lied to). Was it supposed to be like this?
Israel — a country that seemed to have all but beaten the pandemic just two and a half months ago — has reached a dire landmark, with 7,030 Israelis succumbing to the disease since the onset of the pandemic early last year.
Lies for profit. Just trust the experts. Carry on.
Israel sees highest single-day virus caseload since beginning of pandemic
Health Ministry data show previous record was eclipsed Monday after 10,946 Israelis tested positive for pathogen in 24 hours; with day before start of new school year, 91,000 kindergarteners and school students reported to be in isolationwww.ynetnews.com
Non responsive.
I asked a question. Do you believe most Americans have already been exposed to the virus?
I answered that before you ever asked it.
THEN you asked ‘shouldn’t we all be immune by now’ and the answer to that is, Yes.....we should be.
And, since "we clearly are not", it means you have made an inaccurate assumption.
Post 115. I answered that question before you even asked it: EVERYONE has been exposed by now. Whether or not they had symptoms is irrelevant; that’s for the immune system to deal with.
You want to start acting like Joe now? Go right ahead.
Nope
It's why case counts are increasing exponentially in some places and deaths are rocketing up.
#NaiveImmuneSystems
You should have just stopped at “naive”
Is the “Common Cold” Our Greatest Ally in the Battle Against SARS-CoV-2?
The discovery of T-cell responses to SARS-CoV-2 in non-infected individuals indicates cross-reactive immune memory from prior exposure to human coronaviruses (HCoV) that cause the common cold. This raises the possibility that “immunity” could exist within populations at rates that may be higher...
You should have just stopped at “naive”
Is the “Common Cold” Our Greatest Ally in the Battle Against SARS-CoV-2?
The discovery of T-cell responses to SARS-CoV-2 in non-infected individuals indicates cross-reactive immune memory from prior exposure to human coronaviruses (HCoV) that cause the common cold. This raises the possibility that “immunity” could exist within populations at rates that may be higher...www.frontiersin.org
Again: IF we had immunity from "the common cold" we would not have >4.5M dead right now.
You MUST be trolling at this point. It's not even possible someone with the ability to type in proper English could be this dumb.
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76.5 million others died in the same time period; from starvation, malaria, diabetes, diarrhea, war, heart attacks, hospital errors, etc.
Oh, and vaccines too.
They weren’t people?
Okay. So that brings me back to the original question I had. If everyone has had it, why are we not all immune now?
Wouldn't you answer this question by understanding we've all had a cold or flu, but we still get those and are not immune? There will be no immunity to covid, ever.
And those were the average number of deaths for that period.
You're claiming that 4.5M above that average is "normal", when it is >5% higher.
So you believe having the coronavirus does not provide any immunity. That would make you wrong. Astonishingly wrong.
But at least you are bold enough to make a deliriously statement and stand by it.
Hmmm, let’s see. What was it again that was injected into the equation late last year?
And what were the warnings again about viral escape, leaky vaccines, pathogenic priming, etc?
Tell me that what’s going on in Israel is what the ‘experts’ assured us would happen.
There is a reinfection rate of below 1%, so no it does not provide complete immunity. But if you want to think you've won have at it!
The smallpox vaccine and Polio vaccine the POV series or the IPV series (100% effective) are both more effective than the body's immune system at generating immunity than the illness. So you are simply wrong. And you are a stupid idiot too.
Well it’s a damn shame, then, that Israel isn’t suffering a polio or smallpox outbreak; they could nip ‘em in the bud with those awesome vaccines.
Unfortunately, the new Pfizer shot doesn’t seem to work quite so well on covid.
Did Israel hire an auctioneer to be health minister?
“What’ll you give for immunity? Do I hear two shots? Yep! Who’ll give me three? Three shots...yep! Four now - gimme four shots here!”
“What’ll you give for immunity? Do I hear two shots? Yep! Who’ll give me three? Three shots...yep! Four now - gimme four shots here!”
Israel planning to administer FOURTH covid vaccine shot
The country's national coronavirus czar Salman Zarka said the country needs to prepare for a fourth injection, which could be modified to better protect against new variants of the virus.
www.dailymail.co.uk
Did Israel hire an auctioneer to be health minister?
“What’ll you give for immunity? Do I hear two shots? Yep! Who’ll give me three? Three shots...yep! Four now - gimme four shots here!”
Israel planning to administer FOURTH covid vaccine shot
The country's national coronavirus czar Salman Zarka said the country needs to prepare for a fourth injection, which could be modified to better protect against new variants of the virus.www.dailymail.co.uk
The "booster" shots SHOULD include the Delta variant RNA.
And if they make a bi-valent or tri-valent Covid shot (like for influenza, which typically has a quardi-valent option every season) then you'd only need the two.
Seems like it's really really difficult for you to grasp a "novel" virus that very very few of us had any immunity to, and the fact that it is rapidly mutating into something our original vaccines aren't as effective against.
Having COVID also confers much greater death than getting vaccinated.
We ran you thru this last year, because this is summer, when everyone's outdoors in Sweden.
And shit blew up in their faces all winter, and you denied it.
Deflection. Any theories on why Israel is running 3X the cases they were at this time last year?
But, but, but.....Nordic neighbors!!!!!!
But, but, but.....Nordic neighbors!!!!!!
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