Which part? You contest that people have been crossing the border illegally for decades or that the running total is in the millions?Speaking of false premises...
Which part? You contest that people have been crossing the border illegally for decades or that the running total is in the millions?Speaking of false premises...
Deporting isn’t the issue per se. It’s the lack of border security that illegals see as a green light to keep coming back.We've been deporting people for multiple decades.
Those data are literally published for you, every year.
The border bill allowed for a significant uptick in border funding, precisely for more "security".Deporting isn’t the issue per se. It’s the lack of border security
That is a false premise.
Name a country that has been overrun by millions of illegal immigrants and did next to nothing about it for multiple decades. There’s your answer.
Probably best the response isn't understood. The whole concept is disgusting. We are talking about human beings...Republicans do a really really good job of getting their voters to dehumanize people who don't have the right color skin and that's precisely what this is.I don’t understand this response, Tom.
To be clear, I am against mass deportation as a solution to this problem. But if the government is going to round up a bunch of illegals or people who have overstayed their work visas or whatever, then there naturally is going to have to be a place to send people to before they are officially deported.
So, outside of SS stormtroopers, what’s your solution?
I am on record here stating the border bill was shot down by Trump’s orders and how bullshit that was.The border bill allowed for a significant uptick in border funding, precisely for more "security".
As has been shown many many times, a $75 tool from Home Depot with a carbide grinder pad can slice thru steel barriers in a few minutes.
The "walls" in rural/remote areas are a waste of money, easily bypassed, and destroy wildlife habitats.
I’m not responding to the shit in your second paragraph.
Yes, I know, I know, Trump is not going to stop with the violent or just illegal ones. But, why is this something to get worked up about? I thought we are all in favor of getting rid of violent illegals and securing the border, right?
What do I need to be outraged about here, libs? Is the ranch going to become Auschwitz?
I understood the question just fine.There you go again responding to something that wasn't said. You really should read the post your responding to and actually respond to that post. He simply asked when housing a large number of people (who have been labeled as bad) has turned out good for those people. Answer the question, when has it turned out good for the people?
ZERO, ZILCH, NADAOdds Trump turns this into a land donation to Trump and turns it into Cowboy Mar a Lago
No, because that’s not the point. The point is you presented a false dichotomy and I am not going to waste my time on it.Translation: "I refuse to acknowledge the vast waste of money and resources on remote area 'wall building'..."
We’re in agreement on that. I think Trump’s plan is terrible and not feasible.I have some concerns around the execution of the plan. Historically, this doesn't go well.
How are they going to identify everybody to deport?
Gee Bill Clinton has the same idea.This has embezzlement written all over it. Trump is going to blow deficit records out of the book. Billions will be plowed into this project. It will be a crap show. And then they'll move onto the next grift.
Easy.I have some concerns around the execution of the plan. Historically, this doesn't go well.
How are they going to identify everybody to deport?
I vote for you to live among them and post what's going on.Proposed on private land.
So, they'll deny access to any public oversight.
We won't know what's actually going on there.
What happens after the cap is reached?What was wrong w/ the border bill negotiated 6+ months ago?
The border is 2000 miles long. Spend as much money as you want and people will still find places to cross.Deporting isn’t the issue per se. It’s the lack of border security that illegals see as a green light to keep coming back.
Without proper border security, Trump’s plan to deport millions of illegals becomes an exercise in futility. I don’t think the plan is to continue dropping the ball on that, but I guess we’ll see.
You believe that’s how I see it?Probably best the response isn't understood. The whole concept is disgusting. We are talking about human beings...Republicans do a really really good job of getting their voters to dehumanize people who don't have the right color skin and that's precisely what this is.
I have some concerns around the execution of the plan. Historically, this doesn't go well.
How are they going to identify everybody to deport?
Now the Auschwitz guy is talking “solutions.”What’s your alternative solution?
Right.The border is 2000 miles long. Spend as much money as you want and people will still find places to cross.
So, people haven’t compared Trump and his stated plan to Hitler and Nazi Germany?Now the Auschwitz guy is talking “solutions.”
We already have laws about illegal entry.Right.
And people will still get in cars and drive drunk and do a bunch of other stupid shit, so why have any laws when there will just be ways for people to break them?
Says the fans of housing male criminals in female prisons.An Attorney General who is a pedophile.
A remote ranch area on private land to "house illegal immigrants" for months on end, where any public oversight would be lacking.
What could possibly go wrong here?
You might want to brush up on your history and the accepted definitions of “concentration camp.”Explain.
So, you anticipate people starving, being worked to death, being lined up in front of a firing squad, having cruel medical and science experiments performed on them, and being rounded up and sent to gas chambers? That’s your expectation for “how it’s used”?
Look, everyone here knows I think Trump is a piece of shit and that if his articulated plans are enacted they will be terrible for inflation and the country in general, but at what point do some of you need to reexamine WWII history and start modifying some of this ridiculous rhetoric?
One thing Trump has been brilliant at in his life is taking things from rubes.Odds Trump turns this into a land donation to Trump and turns it into Cowboy Mar a Lago
You act like this is a concern that Stephen Miller and Tom Homan have.I have some concerns around the execution of the plan. Historically, this doesn't go well.
How are they going to identify everybody to deport?
The last time there were also issues with poor living conditions, and guards getting rapey. Trump won't make the same mistake twice. He'll get better at concealing the abuses and grifting this time around.I'm all for deporting violent illegal immigrants. No problem here. I do have a major issue when Trump seperated kids from their parents with no record of where those kids were sent, or in other words, mass kidnapping.
No. But you know who I am talking about. The same group of millions who you find as gross as I do.You believe that’s how I see it?
He's not lucky enough to have a media so willing to conceal the shit for him as Biden has been. Well...not so much conceal as not give a shit about it.The last time there were also issues with poor living conditions, and guards getting rapey. Trump won't make the same mistake twice. He'll get better at concealing the abuses and grifting this time around.
Record DOW, Falling crime rates, falling inflation, full employment.That is a false premise.
Name a country that has been overrun by millions of illegal immigrants and did next to nothing about it for multiple decades. There’s your answer.
Yeah, there is definitely no conservative friendly media sphere.He's not lucky enough to have a media so willing to conceal the shit for him as Biden has been. Well...not so much conceal as not give a shit about it.
See, @fredjr82 that's an attack on Biden and the media, not a defense on Trump. Now...Go Birds!
All the media does is cover for Trump.He's not lucky enough to have a media so willing to conceal the shit for him as Biden has been. Well...not so much conceal as not give a shit about it.
See, @fredjr82 that's an attack on Biden and the media, not a defense on Trump. Now...Go Birds!
Those trump "undesirables" just might be law-abiding citizens as well. Wow are you angry.I understood the question just fine.
The question is ridiculous.
And if that’s the direction you and him want to take it, then the answer to the question of “when did housing a large number of bad or undesirable people turn out well forthosepeoplelaw-abiding citizens separated from those who commit crimes is when mankind started building prisons.
Always with the trans bashingSays the fans of housing male criminals in female prisons.
Yeah...I live on the same planet where Obama built cages, put kids in them, and then the media never mentioned them until 2017. What planet do you live on? Because I just described Earth.Yeah, there is definitely no conservative friendly media sphere.
Seriously, FAU, do you even live on this f---ing planet?
Who is bashing trans people? I'm bashing morons like yourself and Joes who think it's reasonable to house male rapists in locked cages with females, then completely ignore it when the horrible, predictable rapey shit happens.Always with the trans bashing