Him trying to stay with the run while they stacked the box lost us this game. Should have opened it up earlier. Hopefully he learned his first lesson. We win the west if he figures this out. Go hawks!!!
That loss is on Brian Ferentz....
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I have a feeling many of those play calls were Stanley getting fooled and audibling to a run when he was expecting a blitzing linebacker. Second half he caught them in the blitz calling a run or option pass away from rush. He's learning, not as fast as we might like but let's see next week what he's learned
The early game field position hurt us alot. Limited the play calling tremendously
I disagree with the OL, though there were about 4 calls that had me scratching my head, especially the toss where we got the safety. I think he's doing a fine job so far. Sometimes it's not all on him, plenty of dropped passes in the first half.
Give it a year for the offense to mesh with Brian and for the boys to have a year of experience under their belts.
I’m telling you, our O is going to be terrifying in the coming years
I’m telling you, our O is going to be terrifying in the coming years
You could easily point to the horrific playcall of the toss that gave them the safety. That's literally the difference in the game.
I won't harsh on him, though. Between BF and PSU, BF isn't the evil one.
I won't harsh on him, though. Between BF and PSU, BF isn't the evil one.
The only two gripes I had were the toss in the end zone and sticking with the stretch runs too long.
The pass plays were there in the first half, but drops were rough. Wish we wouldn't wait until the second half to attack deep though. Our receivers and TEs are getting open.
The pass plays were there in the first half, but drops were rough. Wish we wouldn't wait until the second half to attack deep though. Our receivers and TEs are getting open.
This loss is NOT on BF. Iowa come within a whisker of beating the #4 team that is a good bet to win the B1G and go to the playoff.
The pitch play in the end zone didn't work out, but that doesn't mean it was a bad call. It was a misdirection pitch, that Iowa has not run this year, designed to get Wadley into space with a chance for a big play. It was a risk, and it didn't work.
So, please tell me. How is a coach supposed to "play to win", without taking any chances?
But, at the same time BF is criticized for taking a risk, he is criticized for not taking enough risk and abandoning the run game.
Blaming this loss on the coaching staff is bullcrap. Without great coaching, the Hawks have no chance in this game.
The pitch play in the end zone didn't work out, but that doesn't mean it was a bad call. It was a misdirection pitch, that Iowa has not run this year, designed to get Wadley into space with a chance for a big play. It was a risk, and it didn't work.
So, please tell me. How is a coach supposed to "play to win", without taking any chances?
But, at the same time BF is criticized for taking a risk, he is criticized for not taking enough risk and abandoning the run game.
Blaming this loss on the coaching staff is bullcrap. Without great coaching, the Hawks have no chance in this game.
This loss IS on the coaches and the play calling. Just not that particular play. I have no problem with that pitch to Wadley.
take calculated risks to win. I calculated the risk and it wasn't good. The only benefit of the play was it got Penn St on their half of the field. May have saved 5 points.
Agreed ^^
AND...the Hawks had several pass plays that did not connect. Had they been able to complete those passes, it would have been a very different situation. Their #1 problem to solve on the offense isn't the play calling, it is the execution of the medium to long pass plays. Solve that and you "suddenly" have a very strong offense.
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Please keep in mind that you, ahem, calculated the risk after the play was run...not before. Kind of a key difference. To me, it was an attempt to get Wadley the ball in space and while it didn't work out, I suspect they tried that due to the fact that the passing game was struggling and PSU was stacking the box against the run.
Disagree, the safety actually kept us in the game. Flipped the field for Iowa.
Count me as about the only person who thinks the defense is because we lost.
PSU's offense steamrolled us all night. True, they managed to limit PSU's scoring, but there were too many missed tackles, too many receivers left open, and McSorley was given too much space to take off and run for big gains. In fact, giving up that huge run to him on the final drive was the play of the game, IMO.
PSU had 12 plays in less than 2 minutes on that last drive. Think about that.
When the defense is on the field for 40 minutes, allows 99 plays, and lets ANYONE to put up 350 all-purpose yards (including over 200 rushing), the last person I am going to blame is Brian Ferentz.
PSU's offense steamrolled us all night. True, they managed to limit PSU's scoring, but there were too many missed tackles, too many receivers left open, and McSorley was given too much space to take off and run for big gains. In fact, giving up that huge run to him on the final drive was the play of the game, IMO.
PSU had 12 plays in less than 2 minutes on that last drive. Think about that.
When the defense is on the field for 40 minutes, allows 99 plays, and lets ANYONE to put up 350 all-purpose yards (including over 200 rushing), the last person I am going to blame is Brian Ferentz.
Cause and effect. If the offense can move the ball and even out time of possession, the defense isn't on the field too much and completely gassed on that final drive. Even college athletes get tired. The defense wasn't good by any stretch. They did miss way too many tackles. But they held the PSU offense to 19 points in spite of giving up 600 yards. Who knows how they might have played if they got a little more rest during the game.
Can't believe anyone would blame BF for this loss. If GDGD were still at the helm, we probably would have netted negative yards offense in that game.
That is true...to some extent. But you can flip that by saying if the defense didn't allow PSU to move unchecked up and down the field all night, maybe they wouldn't have been gassed at the end.
WTF are you talking about? BF has coached this offensive line for the past 4 years. Did you see them block last night? Comparing a poor offensive performance to what would have been a wretched offensive performance, does not make the poor offensive performance acceptable. That's crap logic, my friend.
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That's the bend-but-don't-break defensive scheme that we play. That's not new here.
I have no problem at all pitching to Akrum Wadley anywhere on the Field of play.
I'll take my chances on him making something positive happen every time in that situation. This time the opposition had a guy up to the task, so tip your hat and say well done.
We can't have it both ways. If you want Iowa to get away from their normal predictable vanilla offense, plays like that one have to happen and you live with the result.
It wasn't pitched to me, it was pitched to one of the toughest, most elusive guys to strap on a helmet at Iowa, and this time it didn't work.
And lastly, if you can't overcome a 5 point deficit at that point in the game, especially at home, you've got bigger issues to overcome.
We were fortunate as hell to be in a position to win this game. We came as close as anyone ever has that surrendered 600 yards of offense, or so I presume.
I'll take my chances on him making something positive happen every time in that situation. This time the opposition had a guy up to the task, so tip your hat and say well done.
We can't have it both ways. If you want Iowa to get away from their normal predictable vanilla offense, plays like that one have to happen and you live with the result.
It wasn't pitched to me, it was pitched to one of the toughest, most elusive guys to strap on a helmet at Iowa, and this time it didn't work.
And lastly, if you can't overcome a 5 point deficit at that point in the game, especially at home, you've got bigger issues to overcome.
We were fortunate as hell to be in a position to win this game. We came as close as anyone ever has that surrendered 600 yards of offense, or so I presume.
Precisely. I'll like my chances pitching the ball to AW 99% of the time. If only we had an OL that knew how to block.
Was not impressed with BF last night. I'm sure our defense was not either. It's Iowa football. We wait until HAVE to then we do it and the game comes down to the final minute. This time it bit is in the arse. Oh well. We have just seen a coaching glimpse of the next 20 plus years at Iowa as usually as time goes on it does not get more imaginable.
I'm with you. people thought holding them to three was a victory but it really was not
My biggest beef is continuing to force the run that clearly was not working. Until they pass enough to keep the backers and safeties from running full speed into holes the idea of running directly into 8-9 guys of that caliber is never going to work.
And that pitch to Wadley for the safety was bad.
And that pitch to Wadley for the safety was bad.
We gave up time of possession to PSU @ 2 to 1! We put our defense on the field for 40 minutes! That's awful any way you slice it. And I am not saying the defense couldn't have played better. Or that PP couldn't have called a better game on his end.
If BF wanted to force the run, he should have done it right and turned it into trench warfare. Run out an extra OT and 2 TEs. That would have been better than what he did.
agreed. people who don't think the Hawks recruit well are crazy. They just came within 1 play of beating one of the top teams in the nation.
We got lucky that the PSU coaches called a horrible game of their own.
Oh for crap's sake.
Did it ever occur to anybody that the Brian Ferentz gameplan was why we were in the game until the end in the first place?
Iowa "opens it up" earlier and you turn the game into exactly what Penn State wants. With how great PSU is on offense, the LAST think Iowa needed to do is give them more opportunities to score. Iowa's offensive gameplan was why PSU scored as little as they did just as much as how well the defense played in keeping PSU out of the end zone like they did.
The gameplan was perfect overall on both sides of the ball except for one play.
Did it ever occur to anybody that the Brian Ferentz gameplan was why we were in the game until the end in the first place?
Iowa "opens it up" earlier and you turn the game into exactly what Penn State wants. With how great PSU is on offense, the LAST think Iowa needed to do is give them more opportunities to score. Iowa's offensive gameplan was why PSU scored as little as they did just as much as how well the defense played in keeping PSU out of the end zone like they did.
The gameplan was perfect overall on both sides of the ball except for one play.
Nonsense.
He called a BUNCH of pass plays early; Stanley couldn't execute on them; overthrew players and had one INT on a tipped/high pass.
Kirk H had it 100% right: PSU was stacking the box and not respecting our receivers and O Line to offer enough pass protection for deeper passes. And PSU was 100% spot on with that strategy; Stanley wasn't up to the job early in the game and it showed.
BUT, Stanley 'grew up' in that game, and faced straight into the blitz and made that beautiful decision to hit Wadley on his release - when a blitz comes, you THROW INTO it and look for a receiver who ALSO picked it up and altered his route to run INTO it.
That damn near won us the game; if Wadley had gone OOB instead of scoring with 2 min left, so we could run the clock and kick a FG, we might've won. That TD wasn't the wrong decision by any stretch, though - we damn near won anyway, despite being outplayed by a FAR more seasoned and superior team.
Barkley is a once-in-a-decade talent, and Iowa did a pretty damn good job of containing him for most of the game.
This could be a pretty good team by year's end - offense still needs some tweaking, but BF's playcalling ain't the problem right now.
Sorry but if the game had played out based on offensive output we should have been blown out by 20 plus points. Brian is lucky the defense kept us in it while he dialed up GD offense in the first 3 quarters. Had we been blown out Brian's play calling this morning would look way worse to many more. He needs to grow a set and let it be known it's his offense. If he HAS done that and this is what we get, then we won't be back in Indy anytime soon.
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