That loss is on Brian Ferentz....

[Joes Place]

People gotta remember - you CANNOT beat a blitz package IF your receivers don't recognize it and don't break off their assigned routes to look for the ball earlier. If receivers blindly race down the field and only look for the ball when they were supposed to get it, your QB is already on the ground.

Beating the blitz isn't JUST the QB and O line working - it's the TEAM and receivers knowing they need to run to the vacated space and look for a fast pass within about 2 seconds, or it's too late. And your QB cannot panic, either, and just throw blindly to where the ball was SUPPOSED to go - that's how blitzes become pick sixes.

PSU did a nice job of this later in the game, when Iowa blitzed them and he broke off his route and did exactly this. And beat us on that play. That's what veteran teams do; younger teams like Iowa need to learn it. And we did a much better job of it later in the game. That's how you grow and develop and get better.

 

[ScoutRefugee]

People gotta remember - you CANNOT beat a blitz package IF your receivers don't recognize it and don't break off their assigned routes to look for the ball earlier. If receivers blindly race down the field and only look for the ball when they were supposed to get it, your QB is already on the ground.

Beating the blitz isn't JUST the QB and O line working - it's the TEAM and receivers knowing they need to run to the vacated space and look for a fast pass within about 2 seconds, or it's too late. And your QB cannot panic, either, and just throw blindly to where the ball was SUPPOSED to go - that's how blitzes become pick sixes.

PSU did a nice job of this later in the game, when Iowa blitzed them and he broke off his route and did exactly this. And beat us on that play. That's what veteran teams do; younger teams like Iowa need to learn it. And we did a much better job of it later in the game. That's how you grow and develop and get better.

We didn't start moving the football until PSU went into a base defense/prevent in the 4th qtr. Another horrible coaching decision by the PSU staff.
The part about the WRs needing to recognize and adjust is spot on.

 

[Joes Place]

We didn't start moving the football until PSU went into a base defense/prevent in the 4th qtr. Another horrible coaching decision by the PSU staff.

We scored a 1st half TD on Iowa picking up a blitz and Stanley recognizing the 1:1 receiver and hitting him in the EZ.

 

[HawkLogic]

The early game field position hurt us alot. Limited the play calling tremendously

if we had passed out of endzone might have be caught in a safety.

 

[83Hawk]

That's the bend-but-don't-break defensive scheme that we play. That's not new here.

"Bending" by giving up 600 yards and 2:1 TOP is not going to win many games.

 

[ScoutRefugee]

"Bending" by giving up 600 yards and 2:1 TOP is not going to win many games.

Tell KF that. It's not my game plan. But it is the game plan that KF utilizes.

 

[HawkLogic]

We didn't start moving the football until PSU went into a base defense/prevent in the 4th qtr. Another horrible coaching decision by the PSU staff.
The part about the WRs needing to recognize and adjust is spot on.

PSU was blitzing when Stanley/Wadley burned them. So is that their base defense?

 

[soybean]

I disagree with the OL, though there were about 4 calls that had me scratching my head, especially the toss where we got the safety. I think he's doing a fine job so far. Sometimes it's not all on him, plenty of dropped passes in the first half.

This. The PSU defense was our biggest problem last night, but Brian was just being stubborn on many of those Wadley runs...especially the pitch back into the end zone just after you had run a QB sneak on the play before to get some operating room and then he put the ball back in the last spot you want it. Brian will be OK as we go down the road.

 

[HawkLogic]

"Bending" by giving up 600 yards and 2:1 TOP is not going to win many games.

It was too much yardage---especially on 1st down. Anytime they ran Barkley to edge, it was 7 yards before he got touched. The Redzone defense did save us, but part of that was PSU failings.

 

[Joes Place]

It was too much yardage---especially on 1st down. Anytime they ran Barkley to edge, it was 7 yards before he got touched. The Redzone defense did save us, but part of that was PSU failings.

He got touched....it just didn't look like it because he ran thru so much contact.....

 

[ScoutRefugee]

We scored a 1st half TD on Iowa picking up a blitz and Stanley recognizing the 1:1 receiver and hitting him in the EZ.

Yep. The two aren't mutually exclusive. We had 137 yards of offense through the end of 3 quarters!

 

[ScoutRefugee]

PSU was blitzing when Stanley/Wadley burned them. So is that their base defense?

Not that particular play, no. PSU blitzed a lot less and played far more base D in the 4th qtr. Again, we had 137 yards through the end of 3 qtrs.

 

[K OKeefe]

The decision to go with the first two point attempt was a case of chasing the 15-15 tie. Iowa left two extra points on the field, which resulted in PSU not needing the extra point on the last TD. Make them kick the extra point and give yourself a chance to block it. Iowa figured out a way to push the #4 team in the country to the brink. My hat is off to the coaching staff for giving Iowa a fighting chance in this game.

 

[ScoutRefugee]

Bend but don't break has usually been stop the run game and let teams dink their way up the field with pass game. This game was getting gashed by Barkley on 1st down. The only reason it wasn't worse was PSU didn't call his number on every down---the stops in 1st half were passing game stops. I'm not impressed by the 1st down yardage we gave up to Barkley. He clearly was just faster than anyone we had on the edge.

Yep. Occasionally you come up against a player that's dynamic, like Barkley.

 

[hawkandroll]

How many drops were there that killed drives? You can't blame the OC when the play is right, the pass is there, but the receiver can't hang on.

 

[ScoutRefugee]

How many drops were there that killed drives? You can't blame the OC when the play is right, the pass is there, but the receiver can't hang on.

Stanley isn't very accurate. Two of those drops Vandy had to try and catch behind his body. Those are tough. He over threw several again. He's young, so poor accuracy is not unexpected as he learns to adjust to the speed of the game.

 

[MeetTheFerentz]

WTF are you talking about? BF has coached this offensive line for the past 4 years. Did you see them block last night? Comparing a poor offensive performance to what would have been a wretched offensive performance, does not make the poor offensive performance acceptable. That's crap logic, my friend.

Ok, you win. I guess I'll just be perpetually pissed off and unagreeable like you.

 

[Floyd_Of_Rosedale]

I also think it's time to quit making excuses for an inexperienced coaches son to be running a shitshow. This isn't on-the-job training at .5 million bucks per year.Hire somebody! This is not a family cruise.

http://db.desmoinesregister.com/state-salaries-for-iowa/page=5

 

[ScoutRefugee]

Ok, you win. I guess I'll just be perpetually pissed off and unagreeable like you.

I'll allow it.

 

[Joes Place]

Not that particular play, no. PSU blitzed a lot less and played far more base D in the 4th qtr. Again, we had 137 yards through the end of 3 qtrs.

Don't know what game YOU were watching, but that screen/dump pass sure looked like a blitz play. Stanley read it. Wadley read it and ran past the defenders, then outran the one LB who was supposed to contain him if he released.

 

[biggreydogs]

If you occasionally stretch the field and throw deep than they don't stack the box. Especially during the safety. If you want to risk and have balls throw deep and see what happens.

 

[Suterman]

I also think it's time to quit making excuses for an inexperienced coaches son to be running a shitshow. This isn't on-the-job training at .5 million bucks per year.Hire somebody! This is not a family cruise.

http://db.desmoinesregister.com/state-salaries-for-iowa/page=5

Are you seriously talking about salaries? JFC.

 

[Joes Place]

If you occasionally stretch the field and throw deep than they don't stack the box. Especially during the safety. If you want to risk and have balls throw deep and see what happens.

Uh...we tried that; several times.
Stanley overthrew all of them in the 1st half.

When you play that long-pass gambling game and cannot connect, you go 3-and-out and barely take 1 minute off the game clock, pushing your defense out on the field even LONGER.

When you are playing a superior opponent, you need to get AT LEAST A LITTLE ball control and time of possession to keep your D off the field for at least one or two extra series' per half. Play the long-ball game when you cannot connect is how you get the score run up on you and put the game out of reach early on.

 

[JoelBittner]

You could easily point to the horrific playcall of the toss that gave them the safety. That's literally the difference in the game.

I won't harsh on him, though. Between BF and PSU, BF isn't the evil one.

The final score wasn't because they were evil. It's because our defense couldn't stop them when it mattered. That's happened more than once before.

 

[KujawaFan]

Not one play or player or coach "lost" that game. That running back is on a whole different level. I will say and I love the guy but Vandy has to make those first half catches. Stanley is starting in only his 4th game and it's under the lights against the 4th ranked team. So maybe the passes weren't perfect but very catchable and would have extended drives and got some offensive momentum and hopefully prevent the box stacking and also give the D a rest. Surely not all on Vandy for the loss but a 5th yr senior leader needs to catch those passes. We need Barkley to the pro's!

 

[Floyd_Of_Rosedale]

Are you seriously talking about salaries? JFC.

apPARENTly

 

[Crazy Hawk]

Him trying to stay with the run while they stacked the box lost us this game. Should have opened it up earlier. Hopefully he learned his first lesson. We win the west if he figures this out. Go hawks!!!

Defense is more of a concern imo. To be consistently successful with the "bend but don't break" style...you have to be fundamentally sound tacklers. This defense, outside of Wyoming has not been a good tackling team. And it appears that Wyoming is not the quality of opponent that they once were thought to be.

I was also surprised Parker didn't do more to take Barkley out of the game at half.

 

[dawgs_04]

Watching the game on TV today. The D actually played decent in the first half (sacks, pressure, picks, no big ones). Got absolutely worked by Barkley in the 2nd half (he's great + tired D). Offense did nothing; poor field position was also a problem. Offense would have been better without the inaccuracies and drops.

The illegal punt formation (motion?) cost 34 yards. Gross

 

[ghostOfHomer777]

I also think it's time to quit making excuses for an inexperienced coaches son to be running a shitshow. This isn't on-the-job training at .5 million bucks per year.Hire somebody! This is not a family cruise.

http://db.desmoinesregister.com/state-salaries-for-iowa/page=5

Why don't you venture to make a deep probing post based on the available facts? If you did so, you'd realize that Brian has been doing a pretty fine job. Brian obviously has a high football IQ. It's true that he still has plenty to learn ... but that is also why he is surrounded by the likes of O'Keefe and Polasek.

Anyhow, the last I knew ... we had scored enough points to win the game.

 

[Floyd_Of_Rosedale]

Uh...we tried that; several times.
Stanley overthrew all of them in the 1st half.

When you play that long-pass gambling game and cannot connect, you go 3-and-out and barely take 1 minute off the game clock, pushing your defense out on the field even LONGER.

When you are playing a superior opponent, you need to get AT LEAST A LITTLE ball control and time of possession to keep your D off the field for at least one or two extra series' per half. Play the long-ball game when you cannot connect is how you get the score run up on you and put the game out of reach early on.

I was trying to read this post when my right eyeball popped out of my head. Thanks

 

[83Hawk]

Anyhow, the last I knew ... we had scored enough points to win the game.

I think we needed 22 points to win the game.....just sayin'.

 

[BHCrusader2010]

I also think it's time to quit making excuses for an inexperienced coaches son to be running a shitshow. This isn't on-the-job training at .5 million bucks per year.Hire somebody! This is not a family cruise.

http://db.desmoinesregister.com/state-salaries-for-iowa/page=5

20 year and counting of the fleecing of Iowa. KF found a gravy train and hustled it to the max. Guy would had been looking for a new gig , many times over , at real football schools.

 

[BHCrusader2010]

Defense is more of a concern imo. To be consistently successful with the "bend but don't break" style...you have to be fundamentally sound tacklers. This defense, outside of Wyoming has not been a good tackling team. And it appears that Wyoming is not the quality of opponent that they once were thought to be.

I was also surprised Parker didn't do more to take Barkley out of the game at half.

Agree give Jewel a break on Barkley , he had a great game but whiffed on 10 tackles too vs that beast, almost broke his ankles on that double side move by Barkley. Needed to mix it up some and not depend on one guy.

 

[ScoutRefugee]

Don't know what game YOU were watching, but that screen/dump pass sure looked like a blitz play. Stanley read it. Wadley read it and ran past the defenders, then outran the one LB who was supposed to contain him if he released.

I was agreeing with you on that play. I didn't communicate it very well. Sorry. On THAT play they blitzed. They didn't blitz nearly as much in the 4th qtr as they did the first 3. I can add up the number of blitzes by quarter, if it would make you happy.

 

[Floyd_Of_Rosedale]

Why don't you venture to make a deep probing post based on the available facts? If you did so, you'd realize that Brian has been doing a pretty fine job. Brian obviously has a high football IQ. It's true that he still has plenty to learn ... but that is also why he is surrounded by the likes of O'Keefe and Polasek.

Anyhow, the last I knew ... we had scored enough points to win the game.

Very interesting....to my recollection.....team A must outscore team B in order for team A to win the game regardless of how many points team A has scored. Hence the invention of the scoreboard. But I am no expert.

 

[ghostOfHomer777]

I think we needed 22 points to win the game.....just sayin'.

Or just one more defensive stop ...

 

[ghostOfHomer777]

Very interesting....to my recollection.....team A must outscore team B in order for team A to win the game regardless of how many points team A has scored. Hence the invention of the scoreboard. But I am no expert.

Aint that the truth.

 

[Floyd_Of_Rosedale]

Aint that the truth.

It is the absolute truth, ain no guessin.

 

[DewHawk]

The early game field position hurt us alot. Limited the play calling tremendously

IMO -This is one of the major problems with the "bend don't break defense". It often leaves the offense deep in it's own territory (which was the case, for the most part, the first three quarters of the game) and often prevents the offense from opening up the playbook..

In addition, that type of defense dictates the defense is often on the field for longer periods of time. Which leaves the defense gassed at the end of the game. Obviously, I am not a fan of the BDB defensive strategy.

But, I would agree the offensive play calling left me a bit confused/distressed Saturday night.

 

[nitewing]

how many drives did Iowa start out at their own 10 vs PSU STARTING at their 40 or the 50 yard line. some of you expert coaches need to get a clue,

play calling at your own 10 yard line or less is very limited especially with a young QB and receiving options. just think about this
QB SO Stanley
WR FR Marsette
TE SO Fant
TE RSFR Hochenson
RB FR Martin
RB FR Young
RB RSFR Young
WR FR Smith
even LT RSFR Jackson
are all 1st year starters and will be here for another 3 years minimum
even JUCO JR Easley will be here the next season. that's 7 FR players and 2 SO's that are playing, the future is very bright.

Iowa loses these for starter on offense
RB Wadley Martin or Young look to replace him
WR Vandeberg Easley for next year then Marsette
RT Welsh Wirff looks to be his replacement
LG Myers would not surprise me if Reynolds does not replace him. with experience the offense is going to vastly improve.