The elephant in the room:
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I agree. I want Iowa to go far too. I think they are limited with Connor on the floor.
Need to match the athleticism and have Murray in more against IL.
Nepotism U gonna nepotism U......garbage
Pathetic. Perkins was good offensively in limited minutes and actually played good defense against Ayo. Ridiculous he gets pulled.
Connor gave up the first three buckets of the second half.
Cmac's line is not going to get it done against a team as good as Illinois.
I don't really care about the B1G Ten tournament. Next week is what matters. This team could do well in the tournament, but CMac needs to have a limited role.
I've never uttered those words once, but okay.
I have said Connor is ass, and that is true.
It is what it is at this point. I will say there aren’t many teams where a guy plays 27 minutes and doesn’t take a shot. However, it’s not changing. Frans going to ride him the rest of the way.
His biggest suck is the blind nepotism towards his kids. At least pat has promise. It's time for connor to go all in on baseball. Nobody would bring it up if he was playing an appropriate 10-15 mins. Near 30 is insane
Fran has very few shortcomings. Defense and subbing has always been an issue. I don’t question offense oob plays or his relationships with players.
but
His defense and subbing have always been sub par. Well t.o usage too.
You keep on laughing because you will have company with the good teams Iowa will face in the N C AA's
We had a great season playing what I consider 4 on 5 for a lot of the games. We have a legit chance at a sweet 16 depending on how Garza is officiated. I don't see any chance of a deep run without CMac getting in early foul trouble.
Perkins looked great in his limited time. I don't see how the coaches fail to notice the upgrade when he came in. JT also had good minutes. It's a shame he never got a longer leash with the starters earlier in the year. He makes so many little plays that offset his TO's. I think his TO's would slowly lower with more time earlier in the year and more time with the starters. He played a lot with backups who were still learning where to be.
You truly believe Conner should have played 27 minutes today? Find me a guard anywhere in the country today that played that many minutes and didn’t take a shot.
Conner's +/- today was -4, one of the best on the team. Just because he doesn't score much or have big stats in general (though sometimes he does) doesn't mean he doesn't have a major positive presence on the floor. Team did worse when he wasn't in the game.
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And for those that want to frame this as connor bashing. I would think of this more as...we have a much higher ceiling with Keegan on the floor. His defense and rebounding alone are invaluable. I realize we would be giving up the tremendous passing...but that is a trade off I am willing to make.
Keagan should get more minutes, period.
JT would be a better asset if he got a few more minutes.
Perkins should be seeing more PT.
It's pretty clear where most of those minutes should come from.
JT would be a better asset if he got a few more minutes.
Perkins should be seeing more PT.
It's pretty clear where most of those minutes should come from.
agree here, add this one in for me, the game yesterday it is amazing to me we are in year 4 and cannot defend the pick and roll with LG in. not even close,
Fran has an ethical duty to play the best guys...he owes it to all his recruits and it is part of the job description. Fran believes in seniority so CMAC being a veteran player, no surprise he is playing some minutes. CMAC is a solid player, but Fran opens up an avenue for criticism by playing him way more minutes than his abilities suggest he should be playing..
CMAC is on schedule to start next year and play 30 minutes/game. PMAC is going to get more minutes. Fredrick is a lock. Keegan is a lock. There aren't a lot of minutes left for next year, so I would not be surprised to see transfers in spring and I think that will be due to how Fran managed minutes this season. Hopefully we dodge the bullet and don't lose any of the promising Freshmen.
I think it's likely Connor had a lot to do with why guys like DJ Carton, Jalen Suggs, etc. ruled out Iowa at some point in their recruitment. No one wants to compete against the coach's son for playing time.
Basically what you're saying is the advanced metrics back up whats already completely obvious by just watching the game.
Iowa is a significantly better team with Keegan at the 4.
The 4 man needs to play defense and rebound, theres 3 other guards on the floor who can feed the post.
late game strategy would love to be on your list of sub par items, as would anger management (towards both refs and media)
Yep, Connors great entry passing is mostly negated by the fact that the opponent can just leave him to double without consequence.
Connor isn't a bum but this team would be better if his minutes were being divided between Murray, Perkins.
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Lol. The only one acting like a Karen in this thread is you.
Fran has definitely convinced himself that Connors value is more important than it actually is.
Its not that hard to get why. Hes the smartest and most poised player on the team. Combined that with it being his son and you get it.
Parents make judgment decisions they would never make otherwise when it involves their kids.
Im holding out hope Connor will concentrate on baseball next year as it will be his fifth year and most of the guys he's played with are moving on.
His skill set won't compliment the players around him nearly as much next year either.
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There is no logic here and it's not just about scoring. It is about scoring, defense and rebounding. Last I checked those 3 things are pretty important in basketball. Keegan has the best shooting percentage on the team and shoots nearly 80% from the FT line. On a per 40 basis he's either number one or number two in rebounding, blocks and steals. He's not an assist guy but he is the best guy on the floor at protecting the inside when our perimeter players get beat. I don't agree however that everyone except Garza sb giving up the minutes. When Iowa is really clicking the inside/out game needs shooters on the floor to keep opposing defenses honest and maximize the outlet opportunities for Luka. JW, JB, and CJ all provide that. Connor doesn't. Connor is a good passer and is adept at feeding the post. There are at least 3 other people that can do that adequately but also possess other skills that contribute offensively and/or defensively in ways that Connor cannot. It's not a slam on Connor that so many on here seem to take it as. It's simply a fact that, on balance, Keegan is a far superior talent and should be getting the lion's share of those minutes.
I guess you can post things that are not true or cherry pick to fit your agenda.
Alford 2005-2006, 25-9 is .735 winning percentage. Fran this year is 21-8 or .724.
Iowa ran off Alford with 2 BTT conference titles and similar B1G record.
Its taken Fran 11 years to compete for B1G title...which he did for 2/3 a season and he
ended up 3rd. It also took him 11 years to just reach a semi-final game in BTT., I'm okay with Fran but
would prefer if he improved. Whose idea was it to play zone for most of the season?
Fran is a 0.500 B!G, just an average coach at Iowa. There isn't a big difference B1G record wise between Davis post 87, Alford, or Fran.
I like Connor but agree that his minutes should go down and Murray's should go up. Having a guard that can't hit an open shot or get in the lane sometimes out weighs the good things he can do. Murray playing more minutes also makes us a better rebounding team and we certainly need to rebound better.
