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The Elon Musk Twitter shitshow

There are people all over the world bitching about Elon/Twitter non-stop, yet they refuse to leave and are livid when they (or the people they follow) are silenced or banned.

Seems this ‘there’s no such thing as bad publicity’ approach of his is working out fine.
Those people don't pay the twitter bills. Twitter (Aside for the idiots paying for the blue checkmark) use the service for free. Yes, their content and the data mined from users is of value, but the real bills get paid by investors and advertisers who are fleeing the service. Those are the ones to watch. Right now people seem to think there's a war for control of twitter. One side is rallying around the owner because he makes them feel valued where they felt attacked before, the other side is hoping to see him quit.
I just find the whole thing fascinating as I've only been a very, very minor twitter user for years.
 
There are people all over the world bitching about Elon/Twitter non-stop, yet they refuse to leave and are livid when they (or the people they follow) are silenced or banned.

Seems this ‘there’s no such thing as bad publicity’ approach of his is working out fine.

The only difference I have noticed on Twitter is that there is not as many bots now. That's it, that is the difference.

Hitting Twitter is still as awful as it has always been, Tom House is still the Twitter baseball GOAT, and nothing has really changed.

What are you all following in your feeds that is so triggering???
 
Those people don't pay the twitter bills. Twitter (Aside for the idiots paying for the blue checkmark) use the service for free. Yes, their content and the data mined from users is of value, but the real bills get paid by investors and advertisers who are fleeing the service. Those are the ones to watch. Right now people seem to think there's a war for control of twitter. One side is rallying around the owner because he makes them feel valued where they felt attacked before, the other side is hoping to see him quit.
I just find the whole thing fascinating as I've only been a very, very minor twitter user for years.
And wouldn’t there be a great bit of appeal for investors and advertisers in a company when people (users) just can’t seem to quit a company even though they claim to hate it....AND the guy running it?

It’s an interesting dilemma.
 
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The only difference I have noticed on Twitter is that there is not as many bots now. That's it, that is the difference.

Hitting Twitter is still as awful as it has always been, Tom House is still the Twitter baseball GOAT, and nothing has really changed.

What are you all following in your feeds that is so triggering???
I follow people like lewrockwell, Mises, etc. They keep up on all the latest political bitchslapping(s) and you just kind of get pulled down the different rabbit holes

Plus chris supplies an endless array of liberal twitter fodder 😁

 
I follow people like lewrockwell, Mises, etc. They keep up on all the latest political bitchslapping(s) and you just kind of get pulled down the different rabbit holes

Plus chris supplies an endless array of liberal twitter fodder 😁


Yeah...I don't follow political people or parties. Hint; they are not really there to help you, they are there to help themselves. Our system of govt is not under control of noble people who are doing it for love of country, hasn't been for decades.

The "my political party is right and yours is wrong so you are an awful person" debate is as stupid as the "my religion is right and yours is wrong so you are going to hell" debate.

I dislike both religion and politics, they are outdated tools to control humanity. These two society shaping tools do not have the same relevance or influence over populations anymore, we simply don't need them to the extent they have been needed in the past. Old tools for a different time.
 
Yeah...I don't follow political people or parties. Hint; they are not really there to help you, they are there to help themselves. Our system of govt is not under control of noble people who are doing it for love of country, hasn't been for decades.

The "my political party is right and yours is wrong so you are an awful person" debate is as stupid as the "my religion is right and yours is wrong so you are going to hell" debate.

I dislike both religion and politics, they are outdated tools to control humanity. These two society shaping tools do not have the same relevance or influence over populations anymore, we simply don't need them to the extent they have been needed in the past. Old tools for a different time.
While I generally think your posts are nuts, this one is right on the money. I've worked with both parties with people many of you know. And guess what, they party together, fornicate each other, and give 2 shits to representing you. On BOTH sides.
 
While I generally think your posts are nuts, this one is right on the money. I've worked with both parties with people many of you know. And guess what, they party together, fornicate each other, and give 2 shits to representing you. On BOTH sides.

My posts are nuts by design, I am mocking everyone. Sometimes they are built up to a peak to deliver a pre-intended punch line.
 
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And wouldn’t there be a great bit of appeal for investors and advertisers in a company when people (users) just can’t seem to quit a company even though they claim to hate it....AND the guy running it?

It’s an interesting dilemma.
Yes, except those same companies don't want their ads running right next to some fool with a blue check mark making racist comments, calling for the destruction of Democracy, or being just a flagrant ahole. Advertisers like twitter, but they want the hatred, the aholery, and the racism, sexism, etc... held within check. elon wants to let all that run loose unless of course it's directed at him or someone he likes; then those people are banned without explanation.

Again, twitter was run poorly before. I don't envy the job, it's a minefield waiting to go off at any point. But nobody can look at how Elon has run and managed this as anything but a comedy of errors. Rather than spend time behind closed doors with some of the smartest people he can find attempting to understand the problems, he's certain he can just fix them by the seat of his pants. It is as if he got his how to run a business degree from Trump University.
 
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It still seems crazy overpriced.
PE ~45, meanwhile Apple’s PE ~21

Is Tesla currently fairly priced? Under priced?
The case for buying TSLA is the PEG Ratio (Price/Earnings/Growth). Still too expensive for me, but PEG Ratio is under 1.0 Apple's is 2.48. If you think TSLA has a lot of growth left, then it might be cheap.
 
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The case to buy TSLA is the PEG Ratio (Price/Earnings/Growth). Still too expensive for me, but PEG Ratio is under 1.0 Apple's is 2.48. If you think TSLA has a lot of growth left, then it might be cheap.

I think TSLA has a LOT more competition coming.
As a whole, the EV industry is going to grow dramatically in the next decade; but TSLA is going to have to share that growth in a free-market of an increasing number of players
 
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I think TSLA has a LOT more competition coming.
As a whole, the EV industry is going to grow dramatically in the next decade; but TSLA is going to have to share that growth in a free-market of an increasing number of players
Tesla's future, imo, isn't in making cars but in the battery and CAV tech. They're still way ahead of others in the tech department. If they can leverage that history into licensing that tech and staying ahead while continuing to try to be a fringe innovation company in things like CAV then their real income will come from licensing their technology to others rather than trying to utilize it directly themselves. They had to be a car company for a bit because nobody else was doing so, but now that others are I think their best future is in leveraging their technology to allow others to more easily enter the market.
 
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Tesla's future, imo, isn't in making cars but in the battery and CAV tech.

Tesla isn't designing new batteries; they have streamlined production of existing battery designs.

They are already "all in" on specific types of Li-ion batteries; if someone else steps in with a non-Li battery that outperforms them, they are kinda screwed.
 
It still seems crazy overpriced.
PE ~45, meanwhile Apple’s PE ~21

Is Tesla currently fairly priced? Under priced?
Near record volume today. Currently down about 5% at noon. Tough to predict a bottom, ts bound to rebound at some point.
 
lol he didn't even dispute what Schiff wrote.

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What political party was the president part of in 2019/2020? What party did the appointed FBI director belong to? What party have all appointed FBI directors belonged to? What political party is the majority of the FBI staffed by?
What party would make this behavior by the FBI ok?

Either of them?
 
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3. But behind the scenes, Twitter gave approval & special protection to the U.S. military’s online psychological influence ops. Despite knowledge that Pentagon propaganda accounts used covert identities, Twitter did not suspend many for around 2 years or more. Some remain active.
4. In 2017, a U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) official sent Twitter a list of 52 Arab language accounts “we use to amplify certain messages.” The official asked for priority service for six accounts, verification for one & “whitelist” abilities for the others.

5. The same day CENTCOM sent the list, Twitter officials used a tool to grant a special “whitelist” tag that essentially provides verification status to the accounts w/o the blue check, meaning they are exempt from spam/abuse flags, more visible/likely to trend on hashtags.
6. The CENTCOM accounts on the list tweeted frequently about U.S. military priorities in the Middle East, including promoting anti-Iran messages, promotion of the Saudi Arabia-U.S. backed war in Yemen, and “accurate” U.S. drone strikes that claimed to only hit terrorists.

7. CENTCOM then shifted strategies & deleted disclosures of ties to the Twitter accounts. The bios of the accounts changed to seemingly organic profiles. One bio read: “Euphrates pulse.” Another used an apparent deep fake profile pic & claimed to be a source of Iraqi opinion.

8. One Twitter official who spoke to me said he feels deceived by the covert shift. Still, many emails from throughout 2020 show that high-level Twitter executives were well aware of DoD’s vast network of fake accounts & covert propaganda and did not suspend the accounts.
9. For example, Twitter lawyer Jim Baker mused in a July 2020 email, about an upcoming DoD meeting, that the Pentagon used "poor tradecraft" in setting up its network, and were seeking strategies for not exposing the accounts that are “linked to each other or to DoD or the USG.”
10. Stacia Cardille, another Twitter attorney, replied that the Pentagon wanted a SCIF & may want to retroactively classify its social media activities “to obfuscate their activity in this space, and that this may represent an overclassification to avoid embarrassment.”

11. In several other 2020 emails, high-level Twitter executives/lawyers discussed the covert network and even recirculated the 2017 list from CENTCOM and shared another list of 157 undisclosed Pentagon accounts, again mostly focused on Middle East military issues.
12. In a May 2020 email, Twitter’s Lisa Roman emailed the DoD w/two lists. One list was accounts “previously provided to us” & another list Twitter detected. The accounts tweeted in Russian & Arabic on US military issues in Syria/ISIS & many also did not disclose Pentagon ties.

13. Many of these secretive U.S. military propaganda accounts, despite detection by Twitter as late as 2020 (but potentially earlier) continued tweeting through this year, some not suspended until May 2022 or later, according to records I reviewed.
14. In August 2022, a Stanford Internet Observatory report exposed a U.S. military covert propaganda network on Facebook, Telegram, Twitter & other apps using fake news portals and deep fake images and memes against U.S. foreign adversaries.
15. The U.S. propaganda network relentlessly pushed narratives against Russia, China, and other foreign countries. They accused Iran of "threatening Iraq’s water security and flooding the country with crystal meth," and of harvesting the organs of Afghan refugees.
 
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