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The Insane Vaccine Debate
We've had mandatory vaccine policies in the U.S. since before the Emancipation Proclamation. Why are they controversial now?
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2015?
Showing proof you got vaccinated at 2 months old so that a school will let you attend in person IS NOT a mandate. Are you segregated in hotels and restaurants based on whether you got your polio shot? For those of you that think this has not gone overboard, you really have zero perspective on things.![]()
The Insane Vaccine Debate
We've had mandatory vaccine policies in the U.S. since before the Emancipation Proclamation. Why are they controversial now?thefederalist.com
Showing proof you got vaccinated at 2 months old so that a school will let you attend in person IS NOT a mandate. Are you segregated in hotels and restaurants based on whether you got your polio shot? For those of you that think this has not gone overboard, you really have zero perspective on things.
Showing proof you got vaccinated at 2 months old so that a school will let you attend in person IS NOT a mandate. Are you segregated in hotels and restaurants based on whether you got your polio shot? For those of you that think this has not gone overboard, you really have zero perspective on things.
By your definition there is no mandate now nor is one being proposed. You should have no issue with the non-mandates.Showing proof you got vaccinated at 2 months old so that a school will let you attend in person IS NOT a mandate. Are you segregated in hotels and restaurants based on whether you got your polio shot? For those of you that think this has not gone overboard, you really have zero perspective on things.
Is polio the same thing? We are in a polio pandemic situation now?
Just more liberal rag propaganda. Wake up man.
BWAHAHAHAHA!!! People lined up for blocks to get their polio shots. ANYONE who tried to stop them would have been beaten to a pulp and ANYONE who used any kind of stage to denigrate the polio vaccine would have been ridden out of town on a rail. People THEN understood the dangers of these diseases. Let's do away with all vaccines...ALL of them...for a generation and see what happens. Maybe we need to introduce today's morans to the toll of these unchecked diseases.Showing proof you got vaccinated at 2 months old so that a school will let you attend in person IS NOT a mandate. Are you segregated in hotels and restaurants based on whether you got your polio shot? For those of you that think this has not gone overboard, you really have zero perspective on things.
BWAHAHAHAHA!!! People lined up for blocks to get their polio shots. ANYONE who tried to stop them would have been beaten to a pulp and ANYONE who used any kind of stage to denigrate the polio vaccine would have been ridden out of town on a rail. People THEN understood the dangers of these diseases. Let's do away with all vaccines...ALL of them...for a generation and see what happens. Maybe we need to introduce today's morans to the toll of these unchecked diseases.
People "lived" them back then.People THEN understood the dangers of these diseases.
What percent of those 3.5 million were vaccinated?FWIW: turns out, the anti-vaxxer/autism crew was 100% wrong on their take
Vaccines may PROTECT against ASD
Serious infections are actually linked to autism, not vaccines.
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Serious Infections Linked to Autism: Study
In both a mouse model and the hospital records of more than 3 million children, researchers found a connection between strong immune activation in males and later symptoms of autism spectrum disorder.www.the-scientist.com
“We knew that mutations predispose [people] for autism, but if you look in patients with genetic mutations, not everyone with that mutation has autism, and the question is why?” says neuroscientist Alcino Silva of University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA). One such type of mutation, linked to autism in about half of the people who carry the variants, are in the tuberous sclerosis complex 1 or 2 genes and can have a range of symptoms in addition to autism. Mice with a mutation in Tsc2 have some of the same symptoms, but until about a decade ago, the social deficits that can show up in people with the mutations had not been recreated in the mouse model. Then, in 2010, Silva’s group showed that challenging the immune systems of pregnant mice caused ASD-like behavior in their Tsc2 mutant offspring.
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Finally, in what he calls “a Hail Mary,” Silva asked a friend, computational biologist Andrey Rzhetsky of the University of Chicago, to look at dataset of more than 3.5 million health insurance claims to see if there was any relationship between severe infections and autism in humans. “He comes back months later and says, ‘That’s the biggest association I’ve ever found in this dataset,’” says Silva. Male children, regardless of genetic status, who were hospitalized with infections between the ages of 18 months and four years were 40 percent more likely to be diagnosed with ASD later than were boys who weren’t hospitalized for infections, while for girls, hospitalization for infection at this age was associated with a 30 percent greater chance of ASD diagnosis. The difference for girls was not statistically significant, however.
“This paper has to be [understood] as proof that you need to vaccinate your kids,” since infectious diseases can not only be fatal, but can also raise the risk of ASD among children who survive, says coauthor Manuel López Aranda, a neuroscientist at UCLA.
’m in favor of the vaccine, but not mandated. Just found out today why a co-worker has been out now for 4 weeks
You should never make public health recommendations on micro levels and only macro...does it suck that happened? Yes, of course ... but you can't make public health decisions based on individual accounts
That, or he got actual Covid before getting the 2nd shot.I’m in favor of the vaccine, but not mandated. Just found out today why a co-worker has been out now for 4 weeks. He finally gave permission to my boss to disclose why. Negative reaction to the 2nd vaccine shot. Before anyone asks, it was not disclosed which brand. Obviously not J&J.
He’s been in and out of the hospital over the last 4 weeks, but more in than out. What we were informed of today, is that they can’t keep his platelet count high enough to release him. Platelets need to be around 100 and his are around 15. It was also noted that this reaction was very, very rare and that there are only a handful of cases similar to this in the US.
No, I don’t know if he had any pre-existing conditions that would have caused this reaction.
So while I agree that the vaccine is good for the overall population, it’s instances like this that keep me from agreeing with mandates. After this, does anyone think this guy should have to have the vaccine to work? Fly? Eat at restaurants? Go to concerts? How about his family members? Should they be mandated to get the vaccine?
Within 8 weeks of the public offering of COVID-19 products to the 12-15-year-old age group, we found 19 times the expected number of myocarditis cases in the vaccination volunteers over background myocarditis rates for this age group. In addition, a 5-fold increase in myocarditis rate was observed subsequent to dose 2 as opposed to dose 1 in 15-year-old males.
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A Report on Myocarditis Adverse Events in the U.S. Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System (VAERS) in Association with COVID-19 Injectable Biological Products
Following the global rollout and administration of the Pfizer Inc./BioNTech BNT162b2 and Moderna mRNA-1273 vaccines on December 17, 2020, in the Unite…www.sciencedirect.com
Within 8 weeks of the public offering of COVID-19 products to the 12-15-year-old age group, we found 19 times the expected number of myocarditis cases in the vaccination volunteers over background myocarditis rates for this age group.
What's the rate of myocarditis for infection? How many of those were severe? And or lead to death?
And when you vaccinate, you know exactly when to look for myocarditis symptoms.
Covid, not so much.
JFCWhat percent of those 3.5 million were vaccinated?
Sounds like an autism might be another word for ADE.
But it took like 30 years to develop the Polio vaccine. I learned this when I road my horse and buggy down to the library to check the internet via a 56K modem and read an article on Netscape.BWAHAHAHAHA!!! People lined up for blocks to get their polio shots. ANYONE who tried to stop them would have been beaten to a pulp and ANYONE who used any kind of stage to denigrate the polio vaccine would have been ridden out of town on a rail. People THEN understood the dangers of these diseases. Let's do away with all vaccines...ALL of them...for a generation and see what happens. Maybe we need to introduce today's morans to the toll of these unchecked diseases.
Your liburry has one of them new-fangled computers? Well, la-te-da.But it took like 30 years to develop the Polio vaccine. I learned this when I road my horse and buggy down to the library to check the internet via a 56K modem and read an article on Netscape.
Polio
History of Vaccines is an educational resource by the College of Physicians of Philadelphia, one of the oldest professional medical organizations in the US.www.historyofvaccines.org
The delivery methods have changed, but the message remains the same. Create the problem; offer the solution.
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COVID-19 vaccine efficacy and effectiveness—the elephant (not) in the room
Approximately 96 COVID-19 vaccines are at various stages of clinical development.1 At present, we have the interim results of four studies published in scientific journals (on the Pfizer–BioNTech BNT162b2 mRNA vaccine,2 the Moderna–US National Institutes of Health [NIH] mRNA-1273 vaccine,3 the...www.thelancet.com![]()
Myo/Pericarditis
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Lol. ‘Debunked’ by the Pfizer/Reuters man. No conflict thereoh good another old debunked study presented as breaking news
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Fact Check-Why Relative Risk Reduction, not Absolute Risk Reduction, is most often used in calculating vaccine efficacy
Referring to a “peer reviewed study” published in medical journal The Lancet, users on social media have erroneously claimed that the reported efficacy rates for the available COVID-19 vaccines are “deceiving” and that the real rate of protection from immunization is much...www.reuters.com
Lol. ‘Debunked’ by the Pfizer/Reuters man. No conflict there![]()
Because maybe, just maybe they actually worked??? Compared to this shit?BWAHAHAHAHA!!! People lined up for blocks to get their polio shots. ANYONE who tried to stop them would have been beaten to a pulp and ANYONE who used any kind of stage to denigrate the polio vaccine would have been ridden out of town on a rail. People THEN understood the dangers of these diseases. Let's do away with all vaccines...ALL of them...for a generation and see what happens. Maybe we need to introduce today's morans to the toll of these unchecked diseases.
Lol - shank bitch slapped yet again. Not sure who gets it more often, he or your_masturbater. LolThe posts erroneously claim the article was a “peer reviewed study”, when it was actually a commentary by Piero Olliaro, Els Torreele and Michel Vaillant on April 20, featured in the Lancet Microbe here .
When asked about the claim, Olliaro, professor of poverty related infectious diseases at the Centre for Tropical Medicine and Global Health of Oxford University ( here ) told Reuters via email it was “extremely disappointing to see how information can be twisted.” He also said, “Bottom line: these vaccines are good public health interventions,” and added that in the commentary, “We do not say vaccines do not work.”
This just in:The delivery methods have changed, but the message remains the same. Create the problem; offer the solution.
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COVID-19 vaccine efficacy and effectiveness—the elephant (not) in the room
Approximately 96 COVID-19 vaccines are at various stages of clinical development.1 At present, we have the interim results of four studies published in scientific journals (on the Pfizer–BioNTech BNT162b2 mRNA vaccine,2 the Moderna–US National Institutes of Health [NIH] mRNA-1273 vaccine,3 the...www.thelancet.com![]()
Myo/Pericarditis
openvaers.com
Interesting thoughts I'm having:Because maybe, just maybe they actually worked??? Compared to this shit?
More liberal circle jerking from RottenHawk and clan! Roll out a "fact check" on efficacy when UK and Israel results show they've been shit already! Don't need studies and horseshit when we just use the whole population to perform the studies! Damn once again that real world data does seem to trump all these studies.Lol - shank bitch slapped yet again. Not sure who gets it more often, he or your_masturbater. Lol