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*****The official 2024 Presidential election day and results thread*****

You support the administration that imported 15 million unvetted foreigners including murderers and rapists. STFU!
Idiot. I don't support the democrats handling of immigration. But that problem doesn't outweigh the threat that is Donald Trump. So I voted accordingly. You should think like me.

But make no mistake, we've really high levels of immigration for the last 30 years and through presidents of different parties. This isn't new.

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The dragon stood on the shore of the sea. And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. It had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on its horns, and on each head a blasphemous name. 2 The beast I saw resembled a leopard,but had feet like those of a bear and a mouth like that of a lion. The dragon gave the beast his power and his throne and great authority. 3 One of the heads of the beast seemed to have had a fatal wound, but the fatal wound had been healed. The whole world was filled with wonderand followed the beast. 4 People worshiped the dragon because he had given authority to the beast, and they also worshiped the beast and asked, “Who is like the beast? Who can wage war against it?”

5 The beast was given a mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies and to exercise its authority for forty-two months. 6 It opened its mouth to blaspheme God, and to slander his name and his dwelling place and those who live in heaven.

Then I saw a second beast, coming out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb, but it spoke like a dragon. 12 It exercised all the authority of the first beast on its behalf, and made the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast,whose fatal wound had been healed. 13 And it performed great signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven to the earth in full view of the people. 14 Because of the signs it was given power to perform on behalf of the first beast, it deceived the inhabitants of the earth. It ordered them to set up an image in honor of the beast who was wounded by the sword and yet lived. 15 The second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed. 16 It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads, 17 so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark,which is the name of the beast or the number of its name.
18 This calls for wisdom. Let the person who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man. That number is 666.
 
Yes, we would have been better off not having hundreds of thousands of people killed in WW2.
WW1 did us no good, and just set the stage for the even more horrific WW2.
We would have been better off shucking the New Deal horseshit in the 1930s instead of waiting until the 1940s.

FDR was doing everything in his power to get us into war.
With the Atlantic Charter FDR was trying to build support to enter the war in Europe, it failed, public remained against it.
He still had US ships hunting Nazi subs and trading shots with them as early as April 1941, before Japan attacked and Germany declared war.

From Stimson's own diary:

Nov. 7. Cabinet meeting this afternoon. The President opened with telling the story of Lincoln and his Cabinet—how he polled the Cabinet and found them all polling NO and then he said, “The Ayes have it.”

With that he started to have what he said was the first general poll of his Cabinet and it was on the question of the Far East—whether the people would back us up in case we struck at Japan down there and what the tactics should be.

He went around the table—first Hull and then myself, and then around through the whole number and it was unanimous in feeling the country would support us. He said that this time the vote IS unanimous, he feeling the same way. . . .

Nov. 25. General Marshall and I went to the White House, where we were until nearly half past one. At the meeting were Hull, Knox, Marshall, Stark, and myself.

The President brought up the event that we were likely to be attacked, perhaps (as soon as) next Monday, for the Japanese are notorious for making an attack without warning, and the question was what we should do. The question was how we should maneuver them into the position of firing the first shot without allowing too much danger to ourselves. . . .
Got it, FDR's well-known eagerness to exert American power in a massive brewing world conflict leads you to the conclusion that we should have shrugged off Pearl Harbor and sat idly by as a racist, expansionist, fascist empire conquered Europe with clear machinations for Central and South America. How could that have possibly affected US citizens at home? Not our soil, not our problem? Until it is. Is there any justified use of American authority outside it's borders in your view, or are you just committed to the anti-neocon bit?
 
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She lost tons of Jewish votes in the Detroit as well. It’s also going to cost them Senate seats.

She needed Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. That was always the path. Shapiro would have done a lot more than Walz to that end.
I maintain that Shapiro as VP wouldn't have changed this. The big stuff is the big thing -- a terrible border situation, inflation, disastrous Afghanistan departure, and as others mentioned here, Biden's frustrating refusal to step aside earlier and allow for a true primary, instead of announcing in August via Tweet that he's out and throws all his support behind Harris.
 
The Democrats are simply going to be forced kicking and screaming to drop the "those that don't vote for us are deplorable racists" strategy, unless they are ready to kiss their coalition goodbye for good. That dog wasn't hunting very well already... And now...

 
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RFK Jr got over 100,000 write in votes

The Kennedys are a damn dynasty if Ted didn't have Chappaquiduck crash (young women drunk driving manslaughter fled scene) he might of been president
RFK could have been the candidate over Harris, but the DNC made sure that didn't happen. They don't like him for some reason. They're going to have to deal with him now. :cool: Assuming Trump / Kennedy can stay alive.
 
What would be legendary is if he can make the "blue wall" all Red wins. That is more likely than Harris winning the presidency at this point.
 
The Democrats are simply going to be forced kicking and screaming to drop the "those that don't vote for us are deplorable racists" strategy, unless they are ready to kiss their coalition goodbye for good. That dog wasn't hunting very well already... And now...

Honestly this is just more democrat bashing by the media. Even when Dems win two thirds of the minority vote, the headlines aren't, "Why do the Rs have have such problems with minorities?" The headlines are, "Why are the Dems losing minorities?"
 
I remember the beginning of this thread how confident some of you were. Get out of the bubble. Oh and I am here for the tears.
Honestly this is just more democrat bashing by the media. Even when Dems win two thirds of the minority vote, the headlines aren't, "Why do the Rs have have such problems with minorities?" The headlines are, "Why are the Dems losing minorities?"
well that is the story? Why are the dems losing minorities?
 
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