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The US invasion of Africa that nobody is talking about.....

Once again....this ALL started out with a discussion on ISIS, and Putin's involvement in Syria.

I am not the one who tried to connect that to Africa. And I'M changing my position?
You've been all over the map (quite literally).

Our bases in Iraq have NOTHING TO DO with Africa, because you CANNOT ACCESS Africa from them. They are entirely to deal with Iran, and local issues. Stratfor stated that years ago. You don't even know what you are arguing anymore.
As pointed out already, many of the forces going into Africa particularly in the North end are indeed coming from the bases in the Middle East. They use those bases as staging points for briefing, information gathering, and such.
Similar to how Germany was used as a stop point before actually heading over to the Middle East.
You keep saying Stratfor said this, stratfor said that, but where are your links to all of this? Do you have little understanding as to how travel works or something? You seem to be unbelievably single minded about things.
 
No. You don't. It's WAY more inefficient. You do it with naval power and boats. Which is PRECISELY why the NAVY is the one doing most of the setup work in Africa.

And I know people who have been deployed on those missions which originated from the San Diego carrier groups; they've been doing it for > a decade. It's all about SEA power, not AIR power to set those strategic areas up. You seem to understand less of this the more you post....
Okay genius, listen up. When deploying small forces, such as Seals, Rangers, etc. The most often used transport once you are on land is by Helo or plane. It's faster, it's cheaper, and it's much more covert.

Are you like talking about battalion deployments or something? Because you seem to not know a f'n thing about our involvement in Africa. Most of the Carrier groups are coming from Virginia by the way, so your information is false. I also guarantee you don't know anybody that has went over there. The special operations deployments have been coming from our bases in the middle east, fact.

Who's actually been in the military? Me or you?
 
Uh....when you AGREED that our push into sub-Saharan Africa (the MULTIPLE articles you'd posted) isn't about OIL, but about uranium and rare earth metal resources.....

Then, you waffled AGAIN and started talking about North Africa (which compeletly goes against many of the articles you've posted, which are NOT North African countries).

And you continue to babble about how these are all strategically connected, like a drive from Davenport to Des Moines, when they are not remotely close to accessible over land, which is WHY the US is working to establish bases in those areas (and why a base in Iraq is totally irrelevant to the topic, yet you continue to babble about how 'key' our bases in the Middle East are).

Not sure what color the sky is in your world, but you certainly do NOT have a grasp on the 'big picture' here by any stretch. And linking a news site that carries a header 'Middle East and Africa' is HARDLY evidence that they are strategically linked. That particular post is about as moronic as I've seen this week.....probably this year.
I've spoken about the entire invasion as a whole you moron. I linked articles, and linked multiple to simply show the scale of it. You have gone full retard, there is no help for you now.
 
As pointed out already, many of the forces going into Africa particularly in the North end are indeed coming from the bases in the Middle East. They use those bases as staging points for briefing, information gathering, and such.
Similar to how Germany was used as a stop point before actually heading over to the Middle East.
You keep saying Stratfor said this, stratfor said that, but where are your links to all of this? Do you have little understanding as to how travel works or something? You seem to be unbelievably single minded about things.

Look at a frickin' map!!!

What is 'closer' to Africa/Libya (which is the country you guys keep bringing up).
Iraq or Italy and Greece? Because we have bases in Italy and Greece FAR closer to that region than Iraq. THOSE were the bases USED for Libya operations already!!!

And - BONUS- you can boat over MASSIVELY LARGER amounts of supplies on the Mediterranean than you can on air transports from Iraq (and for FAR less money and fuel).
 
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Okay genius, listen up. When deploying small forces, such as Seals, Rangers, etc. The most often used transport once you are on land is by Helo or plane. It's faster, it's cheaper, and it's much more covert.

'Small forces' are going to 'take over' for an invasion of Africa!!!
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'Small forces' are going to 'take over' for an invasion of Africa!!!
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JOEY JOEY,....Don't you yourself claim to understand how the Middle Eastern invasions went? What is the point of what you are saying here, as I'm losing pace with your constantly differing approach to this. A slow, precise and coordinated invasion is still an invasion.

Do you disagree this eh? You should not, as the maps provided show how spread out our military presence is.
 
Look at a frickin' map!!!

What is 'closer' to Africa/Libya (which is the country you guys keep bringing up).
Iraq or Italy and Greece? Because we have bases in Italy and Greece FAR closer to that region than Iraq. THOSE were the bases USED for Libya operations already!!!

And - BONUS- you can boat over MASSIVELY LARGER amounts of supplies on the Mediterranean than you can on air transports from Iraq (and for FAR less money and fuel).
We didn't deploy our troops into Libya, or so we were told. So what does that point mean? Your other point is also moot, as we aren't sending in those types of troops yet. AFRICOM is already set up and organized and has been for years.
The troop numbers will increase in time though and I can guarantee you that. I'm not even sure what you're arguing here anymore. You're just making all of my points more and more correct.

EDIT: After doing some searching it does appear that some troops were sent in as 'peacekeepers', though they actually came from AFRICOM and not Greece.
 
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We didn't deploy our troops into Libya, or so we were told. So what does that point mean? Your other point is also moot, as we aren't sending in those types of troops yet. AFRICOM is already set up and organized and has been for years.
The troop numbers will increase in time though and I can guarantee you that. I'm not even sure what you're arguing here anymore. You're just making all of my points more and more correct.

EDIT: After doing some searching it does appear that some troops were sent in as 'peacekeepers', though they actually came from AFRICOM and not Greece.

Q.E.D.
You CAN Google!!!!

My point is, NONE of those resources are staging in our Middle East/Iraq region. Is there coordination? Sure. The military considers ALL of its assets for operations. But those forces for Africa mobilization have been in place already. Iraq/ISIS/Syria are unrelated to our Africa missions. Much as you want to tie them together, they simply are not. Are there terrorist groups in the ME? Yep. Are there terrorist groups in Africa? Yep. But that has nothign to do with my point.

We HAVE nearby bases to engage in our Africa missions. Iraq is not part of that, because it's not accessible. (We DO NOT 'fly' our tanks and heavy equipment from Virginia or SanDiego to Africa; we 'boat' them over to our naval stations in those regions, and then either fly (but mostly boat) them in from there. This is exactly why our navy has been engaged in operations around Africa for decades (and as I've noted, I know people who have been on those carrier groups). Those bases are the point-areas for further missions/influence - NOT Iraq. In fact, the Middle East is STILL so unstable, our military would be IDIOTS to rely on those bases as staging points for other high-risk areas and missions. That is why we put those bases in STABLE countries, not war zones like Iraq.

If you are trying to claim 'it's all part of a widespread colonization strategy', fine, but that's precisely what my Lather Rinse Repeat comment was about, which started this entire discussion and you have been attempting with all your Google skills to claim was 'wrong'.

You guys are the ones who have completely convoluted this topic and keep changing your position here. There have been ZERO links provided asserting that ISIS is related to our Africa missions; ZERO links on our Iraq basis and Africa missions. That's because they aren't related and no such information exists. It is also why your little buddy idiotically linked a news page that has a 'Middle East-Africa' news section as though it was a strategic link page.

It's beyond comprehension how grade-school your arguments are here. I understand what you are trying to say, but none of it has addressed the point I made initially.
 
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Q.E.D.
You CAN Google!!!!

My point is, NONE of those resources are staging in our Middle East/Iraq region. Is there coordination? Sure. The military considers ALL of its assets for operations. But those forces for Africa mobilization have been in place already. Iraq/ISIS/Syria are unrelated to our Africa missions. Much as you want to tie them together, they simply are not. Are there terrorist groups in the ME? Yep. Are there terrorist groups in Africa? Yep. But that has nothign to do with my point.

We HAVE nearby bases to engage in our Africa missions. Iraq is not part of that, because it's not accessible. (We DO NOT 'fly' our tanks and heavy equipment from Virginia or SanDiego to Africa; we 'boat' them over to our naval stations in those regions, and then either fly (but mostly boat) them in from there. This is exactly why our navy has been engaged in operations around Africa for decades (and as I've noted, I know people who have been on those carrier groups). Those bases are the point-areas for further missions/influence - NOT Iraq. In fact, the Middle East is STILL so unstable, our military would be IDIOTS to rely on those bases as staging points for other high-risk areas and missions. That is why we put those bases in STABLE countries, not war zones like Iraq.

If you are trying to claim 'it's all part of a widespread colonization strategy', fine, but that's precisely what my Lather Rinse Repeat comment was about, which started this entire discussion and you have been attempting with all your Google skills to claim was 'wrong'.

You guys are the ones who have completely convoluted this topic and keep changing your position here. There have been ZERO links provided asserting that ISIS is related to our Africa missions; ZERO links on our Iraq basis and Africa missions. That's because they aren't related and no such information exists. It is also why your little buddy idiotically linked a news page that has a 'Middle East-Africa' news section as though it was a strategic link page.

It's beyond comprehension how grade-school your arguments are here. I understand what you are trying to say, but none of it has addressed the point I made initially.

Two things for you. Good job on admitting the point I've been making all along. Second, the link provided shows you the connection between ISIS and Africa and how we are using ISIS as a basis to go even further into Africa.

You see, it does relate does it not?

http://nypost.com/2014/10/13/isis-cancer-spreading-to-north-africa/
 
Q.E.D.
You CAN Google!!!!

My point is, NONE of those resources are staging in our Middle East/Iraq region. Is there coordination? Sure. The military considers ALL of its assets for operations. But those forces for Africa mobilization have been in place already. Iraq/ISIS/Syria are unrelated to our Africa missions. Much as you want to tie them together, they simply are not. Are there terrorist groups in the ME? Yep. Are there terrorist groups in Africa? Yep. But that has nothign to do with my point.

We HAVE nearby bases to engage in our Africa missions. Iraq is not part of that, because it's not accessible. (We DO NOT 'fly' our tanks and heavy equipment from Virginia or SanDiego to Africa; we 'boat' them over to our naval stations in those regions, and then either fly (but mostly boat) them in from there. This is exactly why our navy has been engaged in operations around Africa for decades (and as I've noted, I know people who have been on those carrier groups). Those bases are the point-areas for further missions/influence - NOT Iraq. In fact, the Middle East is STILL so unstable, our military would be IDIOTS to rely on those bases as staging points for other high-risk areas and missions. That is why we put those bases in STABLE countries, not war zones like Iraq.

If you are trying to claim 'it's all part of a widespread colonization strategy', fine, but that's precisely what my Lather Rinse Repeat comment was about, which started this entire discussion and you have been attempting with all your Google skills to claim was 'wrong'.

You guys are the ones who have completely convoluted this topic and keep changing your position here. There have been ZERO links provided asserting that ISIS is related to our Africa missions; ZERO links on our Iraq basis and Africa missions. That's because they aren't related and no such information exists. It is also why your little buddy idiotically linked a news page that has a 'Middle East-Africa' news section as though it was a strategic link page.

It's beyond comprehension how grade-school your arguments are here. I understand what you are trying to say, but none of it has addressed the point I made initially.
Also, if my arguments are grade school as you have pointed out, why are you the one having to scramble for anything and everything to fit your position in this excellent debate we are having?
The point made by that link, I believe, or at least how I saw it, was to show that those regions are seen as being one in the same. Which would then in fact point to what has been being said here all along.
 
Also, if my arguments are grade school as you have pointed out, why are you the one having to scramble for anything and everything to fit your position in this excellent debate we are having?
The point made by that link, I believe, or at least how I saw it, was to show that those regions are seen as being one in the same. Which would then in fact point to what has been being said here all along.

Scramble?

I didn't post something saying:
"We never deployed troops into Libya"
followed by:
"Oh, well, we did deploy troops into Libya"

This whole thread is Lather Rinse Repeat.
The Lather is you and your buddy contradicting yourselves.
The Rinse is me showing it, and that your attempt to make a point is all washed up.
The Repeat is, well, you doing it again and again.

I think cigaretteman is going break his Like button whilst laughing his ass off here.
 
Two things for you. Good job on admitting the point I've been making all along. Second, the link provided shows you the connection between ISIS and Africa and how we are using ISIS as a basis to go even further into Africa.

You see, it does relate does it not?

http://nypost.com/2014/10/13/isis-cancer-spreading-to-north-africa/

We are using TERRORISM as a basis to go into Africa.
ISIS controls ZERO territory in Africa. Toyota trucks are NOT going to get them there, either.
 
Two things for you. Good job on admitting the point I've been making all along.

LMAO!!! No. Claiming (correctly) that the US military considers ALL of it's assets for operations is CLEARLY not the same as claiming 'we set up our Iraq base so we could invade Africa'.
 
Scramble?

I didn't post something saying:
"We never deployed troops into Libya"
followed by:
"Oh, well, we did deploy troops into Libya"

This whole thread is Lather Rinse Repeat.
The Lather is you and your buddy contradicting yourselves.
The Rinse is me showing it, and that your attempt to make a point is all washed up.
The Repeat is, well, you doing it again and again.

I think cigaretteman is going break his Like button whilst laughing his ass off here.
I was under the impression that we had not deployed an actual fighting force into Libya, which still seems correct. I had not looked closely enough into Libya, and I was mistake.

The rest of what you typed here has been repeated by you multiple times. I have offered explanation to what my view on that is already.
 
We are using TERRORISM as a basis to go into Africa.
ISIS controls ZERO territory in Africa. Toyota trucks are NOT going to get them there, either.
ISIS is said to be there though, or at least that is what the story is. Either way, the connection is there and it is undeniable at this point.
 
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ISIS is said to be there though, or at least that is what the story is. Either way, the connection is there and it is undeniable at this point.

Here is Stratfor's take on ISIS next moves/options. They are simply 'boxed in' and have no way to 'move into Africa', despite a crude world map (and gross naivete) implying those land masses appear connected...

The militant group's intent to expand into Jordan follows the region's geopolitical logic. After its push into Iraq, and already controlling significant swathes of Syrian territory, the jihadist group can try to push into the Hashemite kingdom from two directions. Jordan is the only opening available to Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant — the group cannot move north into Turkey, nor could it move southwest into Lebanon. Even in Jordan, though, the group faces considerable challenges.
https://www.stratfor.com/analysis/jordan-could-be-islamic-state-iraq-and-levants-next-target

Note this story is over a year old, and no such move has taken place, supporting the premise that the group simply has limited ability to expand beyond a fairly small region of the Middle East.
 
And yet more from Stratfor:

It is obviously impossible to read the minds of the Islamic State's leaders to determine exactly how fervently they believe in the group's ideology. There are, nevertheless, some observable behaviors that can help in assessing their ideological commitment.

One indicator of the leaders' ideological frame of mind is their indefatigable persistence in their offensive operations despite casualties. Like pit bull terriers, once they get their teeth into something they simply will not let go. This was clearly reflected in their dogged insistence on taking the Syrian city of Kobani. Even though the city is a non-critical location on the battlefield, the Islamic State would not relent in its attempts to take Kobani and repeatedly poured reinforcements of men and weapons into the meat grinder the city became. This seemed to indicate that the group's leaders truly believed that they are inexorable and divinely blessed. The Kobani decision showed no signs that the group's leaders were making pragmatic decisions based solely on military considerations.

The Islamic State's leaders also have not been pragmatic in using policies of severe sectarianism and takfirism (the doctrine of deeming other Muslims as apostates and therefore acceptable targets for attacks) to pick fights with every ethnic and religious group the Islamic State has encountered. This stands in stark contrast with al Qaeda's philosophy of only attacking other groups if al Qaeda is attacked first and of focusing on one enemy at a time. The Islamic State has declared war on the world and has not shied away from attacking anyone (with the possible exception of the understanding the group seems have reached with Syrian President Bashar al Assad's government and the group's decision not to provoke Turkey until Islamic State supply routes were threatened). This often results in the group having to fight on multiple fronts at once.

In much the same way, the group's leaders have not been very sensible when it comes to making external enemies. While already engaged in brutal warfare on multiple fronts in Iraq and Syria, the Islamic State intentionally provoked the United States and other foreign countries to enter into the fray.** Drawing the United States and other "crusader" countries into the conflict does help the Islamic State ideologically, but the group was not having any problems in recruiting foreign fighters prior to these outside powers' entering the fight. A more practical approach would have been to take care of local business before provoking external enemies.

**(Note that they've also now incited Russia into the mix)


Why the US would be 'invading Africa' to allegedly combat an ISIS threat that is both strategically incompetent, tactically inept and completely non-pragmatic in it's directives is simply nonsensical.

Which is why these are completely unrelated elements. Is the US attempting to limit the influence of unrelated terrorist groups as part of an overall strategy? Sure. But this discussion was about ISIS. Nothing else. And the premise that ISIS has a 'strategic avenue' to move into Africa is about a fact-based as them driving their Toyotas to the moon. Ain't happening.

https://www.stratfor.com/weekly/how-baath-party-influences-islamic-state

As a side-note, I seriously doubt either you or HP have EVER read much from Stratfor, because most of what you try to claim is completely the opposite of the stuff you'll learn on that site or from their free mailings.
 
No. They are not, much as you want to save face to claim they are.

Boko Haram declared ALLEGIANCE to ISIS. Here is Stratfor's take on that:
http://qz.com/358264/why-boko-haram...o-isil-is-a-symptom-of-weakness-not-strength/
So let me get this straight here, Boko Haram declared allegiance to ISIS(making them part of ISIS), and because you have to be as literal as possible, you deny that ISIS has now moved into Africa? Is them pledging allegiance and also pledging to commit the same destructive acts as their eastern counterparts, which they have already done, not good enough for you? Sometimes you make absolutely no sense.
Egypt has already seen action from ISIS, and they are in fact in Africa correct? So what we have is the threat of ISIS as being the reason for US Forces to expand into Africa any further. What exactly are you having such a hard time understanding here?
 
So let me get this straight here, Boko Haram declared allegiance to ISIS(making them part of ISIS), and because you have to be as literal as possible, you deny that ISIS has now moved into Africa? Is them pledging allegiance and also pledging to commit the same destructive acts as their eastern counterparts, which they have already done, not good enough for you? Sometimes you make absolutely no sense.
Egypt has already seen action from ISIS, and they are in fact in Africa correct? So what we have is the threat of ISIS as being the reason for US Forces to expand into Africa any further. What exactly are you having such a hard time understanding here?

I understand it completely. Boko Haram is NOT ISIS. Read the frickin article. Learn something.
"Pledging allegiance" is not the same thing as being part of a coordinated group, strategically, tactically or otherwise.

The other article I linked demonstrates how freaking inept ISIS is at their military strategies, and choosing their enemies.

They pose a practically zero direct threat to the US. They cannot 'invade Africa', nor are they remotely close.
 
And yet more from Stratfor:

It is obviously impossible to read the minds of the Islamic State's leaders to determine exactly how fervently they believe in the group's ideology. There are, nevertheless, some observable behaviors that can help in assessing their ideological commitment.

One indicator of the leaders' ideological frame of mind is their indefatigable persistence in their offensive operations despite casualties. Like pit bull terriers, once they get their teeth into something they simply will not let go. This was clearly reflected in their dogged insistence on taking the Syrian city of Kobani. Even though the city is a non-critical location on the battlefield, the Islamic State would not relent in its attempts to take Kobani and repeatedly poured reinforcements of men and weapons into the meat grinder the city became. This seemed to indicate that the group's leaders truly believed that they are inexorable and divinely blessed. The Kobani decision showed no signs that the group's leaders were making pragmatic decisions based solely on military considerations.

The Islamic State's leaders also have not been pragmatic in using policies of severe sectarianism and takfirism (the doctrine of deeming other Muslims as apostates and therefore acceptable targets for attacks) to pick fights with every ethnic and religious group the Islamic State has encountered. This stands in stark contrast with al Qaeda's philosophy of only attacking other groups if al Qaeda is attacked first and of focusing on one enemy at a time. The Islamic State has declared war on the world and has not shied away from attacking anyone (with the possible exception of the understanding the group seems have reached with Syrian President Bashar al Assad's government and the group's decision not to provoke Turkey until Islamic State supply routes were threatened). This often results in the group having to fight on multiple fronts at once.

In much the same way, the group's leaders have not been very sensible when it comes to making external enemies. While already engaged in brutal warfare on multiple fronts in Iraq and Syria, the Islamic State intentionally provoked the United States and other foreign countries to enter into the fray.** Drawing the United States and other "crusader" countries into the conflict does help the Islamic State ideologically, but the group was not having any problems in recruiting foreign fighters prior to these outside powers' entering the fight. A more practical approach would have been to take care of local business before provoking external enemies.

**(Note that they've also now incited Russia into the mix)


Why the US would be 'invading Africa' to allegedly combat an ISIS threat that is both strategically incompetent, tactically inept and completely non-pragmatic in it's directives is simply nonsensical.

Which is why these are completely unrelated elements. Is the US attempting to limit the influence of unrelated terrorist groups as part of an overall strategy? Sure. But this discussion was about ISIS. Nothing else. And the premise that ISIS has a 'strategic avenue' to move into Africa is about a fact-based as them driving their Toyotas to the moon. Ain't happening.

https://www.stratfor.com/weekly/how-baath-party-influences-islamic-state

As a side-note, I seriously doubt either you or HP have EVER read much from Stratfor, because most of what you try to claim is completely the opposite of the stuff you'll learn on that site or from their free mailings.
Everything that you have said here is twisted to fit your point of view, especially since you are still denying that ISIS is not being used as a reason to invade Africa even further. Yes, you are denying it, because you are dying that ISIS has not infiltrated Africa, when in fact according to reports they have by Harams pledge, and also what they did in Egypt.
Do you not find it coincidental that once Haram pledge with ISIS, that they suddenly became a target for us?
 
I understand it completely. Boko Haram is NOT ISIS. Read the frickin article. Learn something.
"Pledging allegiance" is not the same thing as being part of a coordinated group, strategically, tactically or otherwise.

The other article I linked demonstrates how freaking inept ISIS is at their military strategies, and choosing their enemies.

They pose a practically zero direct threat to the US. They cannot 'invade Africa', nor are they remotely close.
So you're the type of person who is so literal and quirky that you refuse to see the relation as mutual, and therefore they are very much the same threat? I take it you're a left brained type?
 
I understand it completely. Boko Haram is NOT ISIS. Read the frickin article. Learn something.
"Pledging allegiance" is not the same thing as being part of a coordinated group, strategically, tactically or otherwise.

The other article I linked demonstrates how freaking inept ISIS is at their military strategies, and choosing their enemies.

They pose a practically zero direct threat to the US. They cannot 'invade Africa', nor are they remotely close.
I don't think ISIS is the threat they make out either Joe, but I do recognize how they are used to give our government a reason to deploy troops. This is exactly what they are doing with Haram. The second Haram 'declared' ISIS, is the second they officially got caught in our cross hairs.
 
Everything that you have said here is twisted to fit your point of view, especially since you are still denying that ISIS is not being used as a reason to invade Africa even further. Yes, you are denying it, because you are dying that ISIS has not infiltrated Africa, when in fact according to reports they have by Harams pledge, and also what they did in Egypt.
Do you not find it coincidental that once Haram pledge with ISIS, that they suddenly became a target for us?

That's my point....they haven't 'suddenly become a target'. We've been working on naval bases, etc. in Africa for more than a decade. China has been relo-ing people into Africa, partly due to more land/resources for their citizens, but also strategically so they can effectively 'colonize' areas and extract resources under their control. THAT is a FAR more motivational element for us than 'Boko Haram LIKES Isis!!'.

Maybe in the news, Isis is being used as an 'excuse', but it is far from a strategic or tactical threat, and THOSE are the reasons we deploy military resources, not the "CNN Threat-O-Meter Of The Week"
 
So you're the type of person who is so literal and quirky that you refuse to see the relation as mutual, and therefore they are very much the same threat? I take it you're a left brained type?

They are NOT the same threat. They are certainly BOTH terrorist groups. But lumping them all together under one big tent defies logic, because you cannot properly address a true threat if you don't fully understand it (aims, tactics, resources, etc).

ISIS and Boko Haram aren't sending weapons or people back and forth. They likely are not even supplied by the same groups (Isis and AQ used to be buddies, too, but we realized they were not the same, and worked to manipulate them against each other).

Stratfor has already stated outright that ISIS is completely incompetent with their strategic operations (wasting resources on taking cities which have zero strategic value, but make lots of news sites). If you think ISIS is infiltrating Africa, and actually poses a real threat, find that analysis on a Stratfor page where they discuss it, because if it's a true threat and possibility, it's a virtual guarantee they've analyzed it somewhere.
 
They are NOT the same threat. They are certainly BOTH terrorist groups. But lumping them all together under one big tent defies logic, because you cannot properly address a true threat if you don't fully understand it (aims, tactics, resources, etc).

ISIS and Boko Haram aren't sending weapons or people back and forth. They likely are not even supplied by the same groups (Isis and AQ used to be buddies, too, but we realized they were not the same, and worked to manipulate them against each other).

Stratfor has already stated outright that ISIS is completely incompetent with their strategic operations (wasting resources on taking cities which have zero strategic value, but make lots of news sites). If you think ISIS is infiltrating Africa, and actually poses a real threat, find that analysis on a Stratfor page where they discuss it, because if it's a true threat and possibility, it's a virtual guarantee they've analyzed it somewhere.
The day after they announced they pledged to ISIS, they went on to commit 5 bombings.
 
I see....and prior to their 'pledge', they were selling Girl Scout cookies....
Well Joey, that doesn't exactly negate the point warrior made does it? Just sit back, admit defeat, and deal with the consolation prize of not realizing how much you agree with us. /thread
 
Well Joey, that doesn't exactly negate the point warrior made does it? Just sit back, admit defeat, and deal with the consolation prize of not realizing how much you agree with us. /thread

LOL....of course it negates the point.
But for someone who thinks ISIS has a 'land bridge from Syria to Africa', I can certainly understand why it's so challenging for you to comprehend.
 
LOL....of course it negates the point.
But for someone who thinks ISIS has a 'land bridge from Syria to Africa', I can certainly understand why it's so challenging for you to comprehend.
There is a bridge to Africa from the ME....or are you too thick to know that? You know that the continents aren't actually joined together correct? Or is the whole land talk, got you thinking too literal again?
 
There is a bridge to Africa from the ME....or are you too thick to know that? You know that the continents aren't actually joined together correct? Or is the whole land talk, got you thinking too literal again?

You mean the point I've already debunked a half-dozen times in this thread? Even Stratfor acknowledges that ISIS cannot even get into Jordan, let alone the rest of the route....
 
You mean the point I've already debunked a half-dozen times in this thread? Even Stratfor acknowledges that ISIS cannot even get into Jordan, let alone the rest of the route....
STRATFOR is a publication. Your point was never made, because your point was never correct. You're just too idiotic to understand that. Give ISIS time, and according to the press, they will be everywhere.
 
There is a bridge to Africa from the ME....or are you too thick to know that? You know that the continents aren't actually joined together correct? Or is the whole land talk, got you thinking too literal again?
What are you drinking tonight?
 
STRATFOR is a publication. Your point was never made, because your point was never correct. You're just too idiotic to understand that. Give ISIS time, and according to the press, they will be everywhere.

LOL!!!
"the press"

You're just in so far over your head here, it's simply fantastic entertainment for the rest of us.

Please....link us another news site where they put "Africa and The Middle East" into the same section, and explain how that means they're somehow strategically connected....:confused:
 
LOL!!!
"the press"

You're just in so far over your head here, it's simply fantastic entertainment for the rest of us.

Please....link us another news site where they put "Africa and The Middle East" into the same section, and explain how that means they're somehow strategically connected....:confused:
If its fantastic for the rest of 'us', show me why no one is coming in to aid you. They realize that you are being decimated by the great Prime is the reason why.

The other site is Huffingtonpost, type it in yourself and post it for me.
 
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