There will be a 'yeah, but" even if they ran the table

[JRHawk2003]

yeah, but you lost to an FCS (I-AA) team....

Sure NDSU is good to a point, but you really can't lose that game. There is no way they could win the division, and win the Big X title game, and get in a playoff. Not that its likely anyway.

I am trying to figure out what happened to the run defense. Was Nate M. that big a difference at end?

 

[David1979]

so? who cares? If they win the rest of the games I know I won't care.

The run defense can be drilled down to 3 players. Meier, Fisher and Lomax. All three had really good Senior seasons last year and their replacements are having sub-standard performances so far this year.

 

[HawkeyeinOmaha]

There is always some "yeah, but" anyway.

 

[SoDakHawk]

so? who cares? If they win the rest of the games I know I won't care.

The run defense can be drilled down to 3 players. Meier, Fisher and Lomax. All three had really good Senior seasons last year and their replacements are having sub-standard performances so far this year.

You won't care if Iowa runs the table that a loss to an FCS school will be the one that keep s them out? Is your name Gary by chance?

 

[championhawk]

First off we aren't running the table. With that said, we would 100% be in the playoffs if we did run the table. The Big Ten had huge wins this weekend. There is no shot we would be left out of the playoffs. There would not be more than 1 team out there that could match our quality wins.

 

[Suburbian Hawk]

As there should be. Saturday's loss was inexcusable...

 

[SoDakHawk]

First off we aren't running the table. With that said, we would 100% be in the playoffs if we did run the table. The Big Ten had huge wins this weekend. There is no shot we would be left out of the playoffs. There would not be more than 1 team out there that could match our quality wins.

Actually every pundit I listened to this weekend said Iowa has no shot now, even if they run the table. I believe it was "they lost to an FCS team, no way."

 

[IAHawk2011]

I don't care what any "talking head" has to say. If Iowa beats Wisconsin, Michigan, Nebraska, and the B1G CG against MSU/OSU/UM on their way to a 12-1 season, they are a lock for the playoffs unless every other major conference has an undefeated champion (which has never happened).

It doesn't really matter, because this team will be hard pressed to win 9 games, let alone 12. But to say Iowa would get left out in that scenario is beyond stupid.

 

[SoDakHawk]

I don't care what any "talking head" has to say. If Iowa beats Wisconsin, Michigan, Nebraska, and the B1G CG against MSU/OSU/UM on their way to a 12-1 season, they are a lock for the playoffs unless every other major conference has an undefeated champion (which has never happened).

It doesn't really matter, because this team will be hard pressed to win 9 games, let alone 12. But to say Iowa would get left out in that scenario is beyond stupid.

I agree that Iowa will not run the table. We're talking hypotheticals here. Believe me, there is no way a team who lost to an FCS team will be allowed in the playoffs. The BIG will be shut out this year and they will take a 2 loss team from another conference over a 1 loss (FCS) Iowa team.

 

[David1979]

You won't care if Iowa runs the table that a loss to an FCS school will be the one that keep s them out? Is your name Gary by chance?

No I won't. Why would I? Maybe you should reevaluate your life if it would.

 

[IAHawk2011]

I agree that Iowa will not run the table. We're talking hypotheticals here. Believe me, there is no way a team who lost to an FCS team will be allowed in the playoffs. The BIG will be shut out this year and they will take a 2 loss team from another conference over a 1 loss (FCS) Iowa team.

Couldn't disagree with you more.

 

[SoDakHawk]

No I won't. Why would I? Maybe you should reevaluate your life if it would.

You do realize there are varying levels of fandom. If Iowa gets left out I would be disappointed that we had a chance and let it slip. I won't kill myself over it or stress about it daily until it eats me up inside, but I would be disappointed that we had a chance and blew it.

 

[Hwk-I-St8]

I don't care what any "talking head" has to say. If Iowa beats Wisconsin, Michigan, Nebraska, and the B1G CG against MSU/OSU/UM on their way to a 12-1 season, they are a lock for the playoffs unless every other major conference has an undefeated champion (which has never happened).

It doesn't really matter, because this team will be hard pressed to win 9 games, let alone 12. But to say Iowa would get left out in that scenario is beyond stupid.

I think we'd need the other conference champs to have two losses. Iowa, with a loss to an FCS team, would be behind any undefeated team and also behind any 1 loss conference champ. Pretty much any loss will be a better loss than our loss to NDSU.

What's worse, is if we did get in, the bashing would be incessant.

It's all moot, however as we will not be running the table unless we suddenly become much, much better than we've played in the first 3 games. At this point, expecting a division championship is pretty optimistic IMO.

 

[SoDakHawk]

Couldn't disagree with you more.

Well I hope we get the chance to find out who is right.

 

[David1979]

You do realize there are varying levels of fandom. If Iowa gets left out I would be disappointed that we had a chance and let it slip. I won't kill myself over it or stress about it daily until it eats me up inside, but I would be disappointed that we had a chance and blew it.

Well that is different. Being dissapointed ok fine. But the OP said even if they run the table people would be saying "yeah but" I really don't care what talking heads are saying at that point because it would be stupid. College football is the only sport where an upset or a loss somehow means you aren't the team people thought you were no matter what other wins you have. Look at NFL, College Basketball, NBA, and on and on. And that is only because of the ridiculous way that a champion has been picked for so long. But really, Iowa wasn't going to win a championship this year and only having one loss and winning the rest of the games would be a pretty amazing season especially considering I thought this was a 9-3 team coming into the season.

 

[dbleagle1]

I don't care what any "talking head" has to say. If Iowa beats Wisconsin, Michigan, Nebraska, and the B1G CG against MSU/OSU/UM on their way to a 12-1 season, they are a lock for the playoffs unless every other major conference has an undefeated champion (which has never happened).

It doesn't really matter, because this team will be hard pressed to win 9 games, let alone 12. But to say Iowa would get left out in that scenario is beyond stupid.

I disagree......just about any 1 or 2 loss major power would be picked over Iowa at the end of the season for the playoff........They are not picking a team who lost to an FCS opponent. I think the national powers that be learned their lesson last year when they jumped on Iowa's 12-0 bandwagon only to watch them get absolutely annihilated by Stanford.......

 

[DodgerHawki]

so? who cares? If they win the rest of the games I know I won't care.

The run defense can be drilled down to 3 players. Meier, Fisher and Lomax. All three had really good Senior seasons last year and their replacements are having sub-standard performances so far this year.

Some of that for sure. The alarm bells should have gone off when Iowa had trouble stopping Miami's run game. The 3 players you cite for sure have not been adequately replaced to date. My hope is there some improvement still possible and growth for the players. Whether that will be enough I'm unsure of.

 

[myteamcanbeatupyourteam]

yeah, but you lost to an FCS (I-AA) team....

Sure NDSU is good to a point, but you really can't lose that game. There is no way they could win the division, and win the Big X title game, and get in a playoff. Not that its likely anyway.

I am trying to figure out what happened to the run defense. Was Nate M. that big a difference at end?

Well, lets see. Running the table would include beating possibly two top five and one top ten team and a top twenty team . Wiscy, Michigan, Ohio State and Nebraska (yes, yes, I know Nebraska won't be ranked when they play Iowa but its possible). I could see Iowa being around 15 when playing Wisconsin beat them you're looking at top ten. Beating Michigan gets you near top five, beating Nebraska keeps you there unless there's an upset or two. Upsetting a possible #1 Ohio State I think puts them over the top. Do I think they run the table? After Saturday it looks pretty doubtful but I do remember 2009 after the UNI scare too.

 

[Backinthe515]

I don't understand how this is being lost on so many people. The NCAA/espn/FBS could not pick Iowa now because that would be admitting there is a team that is not part of their shtick that is better than what they are trying to sell. (Let's talk crazy for a second ndsu runs the table wins nat champ. Iowa runs table wins nat champ you now have a contingent of people screaming the best team plays in the fcs and that kills the fbs brand value, the espn marketing of fbs on sat, etc. So if your the FBS you don't let iowa in to eliminate any chance) it's easier to convince joe public that the sec is really good and a two loss nat champion played really good D1( now we are still selling the D1 product) than to justify to hundreds of thousands of people that the best team is in a low population state and all these players and coaches in D1 are overrated and if you want to watch the best football you pay 12 bucks to watch a group of guys no one has heard of.

 

[soybean]

I agree that Iowa will not run the table. We're talking hypotheticals here. Believe me, there is no way a team who lost to an FCS team will be allowed in the playoffs. The BIG will be shut out this year and they will take a 2 loss team from another conference over a 1 loss (FCS) Iowa team.

No one loss BIG10 champ will ever be bumped for a two loss also-ran.

 

[David1979]

I don't understand how this is being lost on so many people. The NCAA/espn/FBS could not pick Iowa now because that would be admitting there is a team that is not part of their shtick that is better than what they are trying to sell. (Let's talk crazy for a second ndsu runs the table wins nat champ. Iowa runs table wins nat champ you now have a contingent of people screaming the best team plays in the fcs and that kills the fbs brand value, the espn marketing of fbs on sat, etc. So if your the FBS you don't let iowa in to eliminate any chance) it's easier to convince joe public that the sec is really good and a two loss nat champion played really good D1( now we are still selling the D1 product) than to justify to hundreds of thousands of people that the best team is in a low population state and all these players and coaches in D1 are overrated and if you want to watch the best football you pay 12 bucks to watch a group of guys no one has heard of.

ARRRGGHHHHHH!!!!!

 

[Backinthe515]

Sorry bean going to respectfully disagree. It's way easier to sell a 2 loss sec team than a team that lost to a lower tier opponent. You taint the whole system if somone could make the argument the fcs plays the best football. You can spin 2 losses to big boys way easier than 1 loss to a team you don't promote the piss out of 40 hrs a week.

 

[Backinthe515]

Thank you for that insight david. So far today you have provided excellent insight. "Lol,what" (with zero follow up) and "arggggggghhh" thank you.

 

[David1979]

Thank you for that insight david. So far today you have provided excellent insight. "Lol,what" (with zero follow up) and "arggggggghhh" thank you.

You are welcome.

 

[WWDMHawkeye]

I think we'd need the other conference champs to have two losses. Iowa, with a loss to an FCS team, would be behind any undefeated team and also behind any 1 loss conference champ. Pretty much any loss will be a better loss than our loss to NDSU.

What's worse, is if we did get in, the bashing would be incessant.

It's all moot, however as we will not be running the table unless we suddenly become much, much better than we've played in the first 3 games. At this point, expecting a division championship is pretty optimistic IMO.

I think we're forgetting the quality wins we'd have if we did run the table (which, I agree, ain't gonna happen). A team that goes 9-0 in the B10 with wins over Michigan, Wisconsin, and Nebraska, plus a B10 championship win over tOSU or MSU, would have a spectacular resume. At that point, the NDSU loss would be chalked up to fluke. We've seen plenty of teams with bad early losses have great late-season success and end up at the top of the rankings. And if NDSU goes undefeated and wins another FCS national title, which I think they will, that loss looks a lot better, as ugly as it was.

It think it's way too premature to claim Iowa would have no shot at the playoff if they ran the table. About as premature as it is unlikely that it ever happens!

As for bashing, I don't think there would be any, outside of your occasional ISU fan consumed with envy. By that time, we would have earned everyone's respect. Don't see it happening, but hypothetically speaking. . . .

 

[maggs]

Run the table. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HA

 

[Hwk-I-St8]

I think we're forgetting the quality wins we'd have if we did run the table (which, I agree, ain't gonna happen). A team that goes 9-0 in the B10 with wins over Michigan, Wisconsin, and Nebraska, plus a B10 championship win over tOSU or MSU, would have a spectacular resume. At that point, the NDSU loss would be chalked up to fluke. We've seen plenty of teams with bad early losses have great late-season success and end up at the top of the rankings. And if NDSU goes undefeated and wins another FCS national title, which I think they will, that loss looks a lot better, as ugly as it was.

It think it's way too premature to claim Iowa would have no shot at the playoff if they ran the table. About as premature as it is unlikely that it ever happens!

As for bashing, I don't think there would be any, outside of your occasional ISU fan consumed with envy. By that time, we would have earned everyone's respect. Don't see it happening, but hypothetically speaking. . . .

I can think of a couple national talking heads that would likely still be trashing Iowa from their soapbox.

 

[myteamcanbeatupyourteam]

I don't understand how this is being lost on so many people. The NCAA/espn/FBS could not pick Iowa now because that would be admitting there is a team that is not part of their shtick that is better than what they are trying to sell. (Let's talk crazy for a second ndsu runs the table wins nat champ. Iowa runs table wins nat champ you now have a contingent of people screaming the best team plays in the fcs and that kills the fbs brand value, the espn marketing of fbs on sat, etc. So if your the FBS you don't let iowa in to eliminate any chance) it's easier to convince joe public that the sec is really good and a two loss nat champion played really good D1( now we are still selling the D1 product) than to justify to hundreds of thousands of people that the best team is in a low population state and all these players and coaches in D1 are overrated and if you want to watch the best football you pay 12 bucks to watch a group of guys no one has heard of.

When did ESPN start picking the teams in the playoff? Seriously? Considering the type of teams Iowa would have to beat to win the whole ball of wax, do you really think people would say that? Really? After beating a Michigan, Ohio State, Alabama and another top ranked team? After that unlikely of a scenario played out, I can guarantee you people would view the NDST game as a complete fluke. You would have, at a minimum at least four wins against legit top 5 teams.

 

[Backinthe515]

I really do. Think if how much flak we got when we were undefeated. Fbs/ncaa/espn wouldn't want to justify why their champion lost to lower teir team if it was a blue blood. Let alone IOWA.

 

[BioHawk]

First off we aren't running the table. With that said, we would 100% be in the playoffs if we did run the table. The Big Ten had huge wins this weekend. There is no shot we would be left out of the playoffs. There would not be more than 1 team out there that could match our quality wins.

Iowa isn't even the best team in FCS, how and the hell would they deserve an invite to the FBS playoffs?

 

[H4wkfan4life]

Actually every pundit I listened to this weekend said Iowa has no shot now, even if they run the table. I believe it was "they lost to an FCS team, no way."

b1g showed a lot of strength this year in ooc.
If OK wins b12....b12 can forget about getting in.
ND can forget it.
If houston loses to louisville they can forget it.
That would leave sec, b1g, acc and Pac 12.
If the 3 above happen and Iowa wins out.....they WILL be in.
That said, do I actually think Iowa goes 10-0 rest of season....no

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

b1g showed a lot of strength this year in ooc.
If OK wins b12....b12 can forget about getting in.
ND can forget it.
If houston loses to louisville they can forget it.
That would leave sec, b1g, acc and Pac 12.
If the 3 above happen and Iowa wins out.....they WILL be in.
That said, do I actually think Iowa goes 10-0 rest of season....no

Basically.