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This is a defining moment in US history. Time to declare sides- America or Russia

The same US intelligence that gave the go ahead to get the WMD's in Iraq?

[1] Not the same intelligence personnel as was in place over a decade ago.

[2] Believe it over Russia? Sure. What about you?

[3] WMDs shouldn't have an apostrophe.

[4] How else should we obfuscate?
 
[1] Not the same intelligence personnel as was in place over a decade ago.

[2] Believe it over Russia? Sure. What about you?

[3] WMDs shouldn't have an apostrophe.

[4] How else should we obfuscate?
1. Same agency, there tactics don't change. Trust me was in for 12 years of military and 5 on FEMA.
2. Yep.
3. I can put an apostrophe where ever the hell I want to.
4. It all starts with dialogue, unless you just want all out war.
 
1. Same agency, there tactics don't change. Trust me was in for 12 years of military and 5 on FEMA.
2. Yep.
3. I can put an apostrophe where ever the hell I want to.
4. It all starts with dialogue, unless you just want all out war.
So, you support Trump's actions and statements regarding today's meeting and press conference?
 
So, you support Trump's actions and statements regarding today's meeting and press conference?
This.. admitting that today was stupid and flat out bad doesn't mean you have to think or side with the fact that there was all out collusion. But defending anything that happened today really wipes away any credibility in the conversation going forward! EVEN IF trump was right and our intelligence was wrong (which is HIGHLY unlikely) you just cant make those statements about your own team.. complete lack of accountability!
 
He won't answer.
Which is precisely the problem with our nation! Were borderline incapable of admitting wrong doing by people we generally support or side with in fear that we will be 1. Be ripped by our opponent and 2. Ripped by our own party. If we want more people to be open about the middle there has to be more safety and reason there. Less name calling (I know snowflake) and chit talking and more "I disagree, heres why" not treating people like crap..

It's not just politics its everything! Its Ok to be wrong and it's ok to admit it. It's also ok to not do a full flip on someone or something you support because you dont agree with how they handle certain situations..
 
He won't answer.
I'm fully aware that our CIA, FBI and all American intelligence are made-up of human beings with their own shortcomings.

But, my question to @obfuscating wasn't about them. My question was whether or not he supported the actions and statements of Donald Trump today.
 
Which is precisely the problem with our nation! Were borderline incapable of admitting wrong doing by people we generally support or side with in fear that we will be 1. Be ripped by our opponent and 2. Ripped by our own party. If we want more people to be open about the middle there has to be more safety and reason there. Less name calling (I know snowflake) and chit talking and more "I disagree, heres why" not treating people like crap..

It's not just politics its everything! Its Ok to be wrong and it's ok to admit it. It's also ok to not do a full flip on someone or something you support because you dont agree with how they handle certain situations..

The failure of the GOP to act against the threat to our country and it's constitution gets my undivided attention. When the right stops cracking lame jokes about a serious subject, we can talk.
 
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I'm fully aware that our CIA, FBI and all American intelligence are made-up of human beings with their own shortcomings.

But, my question to @obfuscating wasn't about them. My question was whether or not he supported the actions and statements of Donald Trump today.
He is not intellectually able to understand what rational people are saying thus you get his posting history and a pretty good reading on why he can't answer the simple question asked of him.
 
Seriously, for the first time since that man was elected, I am actually fearful of the future of this country.

This administration is showing us all just how far the people who have hitched-their-wagon to Donald Trump are willing to ride it. They are more attached to Donald Trump than they are the legacy of their country and ancestry.

They're more attached to "hating liberals" than they are to the larger preservation of the principles the country was supposed to be founded upon to persevere. It's pretty amazing to watch it happen in person.
 
William Joseph Walsh, is an American conservative talk radio host and former congressman. He served one term in the United States House of Representatives for Illinois' 8th congressional district.

 
The failure of the GOP to act against the threat to our country and it's constitution gets my undivided attention. When the right stops cracking lame jokes about a serious subject, we can talk.
Then prepare to continue dealing with it this way on a daily basis. Bitching back and forth changing zero thoughts and perceptions! But hey at least you proved your point right?!
 
I haven't seen the speech yet but it doesn't sound good. Trump needed a stronger stance on this. I am trying to get to the bottom of this, are people correct in saying that this meddling was part of their plan to influence the election? Have the people that were in office, working in the security field at that time been held accountable? I am sure we will seeing those indictments coming soon in an attempt to deter this type of action from occurring again.
 
Have the people that were in office, working in the security field at that time been held accountable? I am sure we will seeing those indictments coming soon in an attempt to deter this type of action from occurring again.

What crimes do you think they would have committed? You can't just indict people for doing a bad job.
 
William Joseph Walsh, is an American conservative talk radio host and former congressman. He served one term in the United States House of Representatives for Illinois' 8th congressional district.

Well Mr. Walsh, if you hadn't noticed by now what was going on, you really haven't been paying any attention or else you are just as low life as the president.
 
This is fascinating. Step by step:
  1. Holds both countries responsible for Russia's known cyber-attacking. This is like some abused wife type shit. Trump is Putin's bitch.
  2. Blames those before him. Trump is ever the scapegoater.
  3. End nuclear proliferation. Excellent. I'm all in.
  4. Unprovoked, takes aim at those investigating his campaign, and by extension, him. That's a nervous cat, there.
  5. "There was no collusion, at all. Everybody knows it." I sure feel better knowing Trump knows what everybody knows. Maybe OiT is right about this guy. That's some powerful skill.
  6. (paraphrasing) "People being brought out to the fore, none of it related to the campaign, they'll have to try really hard to find someone who did something related to the campaign." LOL! Except that these people are all related to the campaign, and all related to Russia and/or Russian interests, and they've already been found, and more are sure to be found, the connections are surely established and it's just a matter of time that all this will be laid out before us. In due time, Don. In due time.
  7. "I beat Hillary…" And Trump defenders/apologists/supporters always say it's the Left that has a derangement syndrome. JFC stop projecting.
I'm with Infowars. It did get better in time. And it's going to keep getting better. In time. In due time.

Fvckin' America. Gotta love it.
 
Which is precisely the problem with our nation! Were borderline incapable of admitting wrong doing by people we generally support or side with in fear that we will be 1. Be ripped by our opponent and 2. Ripped by our own party. If we want more people to be open about the middle there has to be more safety and reason there. Less name calling (I know snowflake) and chit talking and more "I disagree, heres why" not treating people like crap..

It's not just politics its everything! Its Ok to be wrong and it's ok to admit it. It's also ok to not do a full flip on someone or something you support because you dont agree with how they handle certain situations..

Yes, it would be great if supporters on both sides would admit that their side is not perfect and has issues. For the record, I don't care for either party and would like to see more independents get elected. Both parties want to be the "winner" and are not interested in compromising, and it really bugs the heck out of me.
 
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