Wow. Talk about some backwards ass stuff.
That's if you're lucky enough to not be at Democratic caucus. You should see how they do it
Kinda makes it hard to electronically manipulate the numbers doesn't it?
That's if you're lucky enough to not be at Democratic caucus. You should see how they do it
Pretty much when you just mail in a postcard you find at the grocery store.They get to dump in as many names of their dead relatives and friends as they want, Amirite? 😉
Yup the paper bag is in the booth with the furry litter boxes.They get to dump in as many names of their dead relatives and friends as they want, Amirite? 😉
Only, no one votes that way.Pretty much when you just mail in a postcard you find at the grocery store.
So?Only, no one votes that way.
My absentee ballot envelope is barcoded, so when the county receives it, they check that barcode against the barcode on the envelope sent to me. If they don't match, it's a faked envelope/ballot.
Actually, I should clarify: my ballot is not an absentee ballot.So?
All absentee ballots are sent through the mail (or very occasionally fax), but not all ballots sent through the mail are absentee ballots.
Mail-in voting if rife with fraud but you knew that already.Actually, I should clarify: my ballot is not an absentee ballot.
It's a mail-in/drop off.
They mail it to me, I drop it off in the ballot box.
Absentee ballots are not "faxed".
Mail-in voting if rife with fraud
This is not hard; a 4th grader could understand this concept.
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How dumb are you?No; it is not.
Oregon has ONLY voted by mail for well over a decade.
Colorado has it as an option.
As I explained to you: I get a ballot mailed in a return envelope that is uniquely bar-coded.
If anyone else mails that envelope back with their name on it, it gets set aside as invalid.
This is not hard; a 4th grader could understand this concept.
I love the mail ins are full of fraud crowd. Absentee votes were literally the Republican playbook in Florida for decades. They were very successful at winning elections via absentee.
And they wonder why every election people question the results.
It goes something like this for democrats:
I guess if the caucus really meant anything.I love the mail ins are full of fraud crowd. Absentee votes were literally the Republican playbook in Florida for decades. They were very successful at winning elections via absentee.
I'd much rather we had a primary. Easier to participate in.It's all out in the open and you have to verify who you are prior to getting your ticket, which has a code word printed at the bottom, which is decided that night. Then everything is counted out in the open and in front of a representative from each candidate. If there are any questions a recount could be completed. Our location had 3 townships caucusing their. We had a recount for Adam's township because the lady misspoke when she said one of the candidates numbers, she repeated the number the person said before her, no big deal, we just recounted them all in the open. Prior to voting each candidate is represented by a speaker that has 3 minutes to explain their candidates platform, the vivek guy in our area recorded the counting of each townships, the other people just watched.
My understanding is the dems do it differently and actually go to corners of the rooms and then try to convince people to move. I'd like to see that style one time. Anyone can attend as a visitor and every campaign had people their watching the process.
You think a vote that happens in open air and in front of everyone is "backwards" but you mock the people who have concerns with mail in voting? Nobody knew what code word was getting picked 10 minutes prior to our group of workers picking it 10 minutes before we started letting people in, it would have been impossible for someone to create a ticket. With time anyone can make anything.I love the mail ins are full of fraud crowd. Absentee votes were literally the Republican playbook in Florida for decades. They were very successful at winning elections via absentee.
The results would hve been the same, Trump wins everyone else comes in behind him.I'd much rather we had a primary. Easier to participate in.
Doesn't matter if Trump would have still one. It's better if more Republicans can participate in their nomination processThe results would hve been the same, Trump wins everyone else comes in behind him.
That's the key point this butt hurt liberals are missing when they bash the caucus system.
I enjoyed last night and am glad I volunteered. Neighbors were talking to neighbors about what mattered to them and the guy in the shanty had every much a vote as the guy who owns the west end of Dallas county. Conversations like "Haley is in china's pocket" and " I voted Trump, but Trump can't carry the middle we need someone who can win for us" on and on were happening all over. It was actual good discussion, frankly it was what this place could and should be with representatives from all sides if we didn't have the same handful of pisspants spamming nonsense they found on Twitter, a site they supposedly hate. (While almost never actually posting any thoughts of their own)I'd much rather we had a primary. Easier to participate in.
Shy don't you think people can participate in a caucus? We are a small township that usually has about 150 people show up ( according to people who had done it before) last night we had 220+)Doesn't matter if Trump would have still one. It's better if more Republicans can participate in their nomination process
It's that step 4 that I'm interested in. We had 1 vote for brinkley in one township last night and vivik got 4 in one township. Those peoples votes should go to the state total for each candidate.It goes something like this for democrats:
1. Show up at a town center like the library or highschool cafeteria around dinner time in the bitter cold
2. Every candidate has a rep make some sort of speech to get you to join their side
3. You split into groups and convince people to join you
4. If you don't have enough people in your candidates group to be considered viable they make you choose a group to join that is viable
5. they do a head count and tally the votes and call it in to the caucus people
It's literally one night only at a specific time. Any real life scheduling conflict or say major winter storm impacts turnout.Shy don't you think people can participate in a caucus? We are a small township that usually has about 150 people show up ( according to people who had done it before) last night we had 220+)
Anyone can put your name on the envelope and mail it back.
I can’t imagine spending 10 minutes in a crowd that went 50% MAGA.I enjoyed last night and am glad I volunteered. Neighbors were talking to neighbors about what mattered to them and the guy in the shanty had every much a vote as the guy who owns the west end of Dallas county. Conversations like "Haley is in china's pocket" and " I voted Trump, but Trump can't carry the middle we need someone who can win for us" on and on were happening all over. It was actual good discussion, frankly it was what this place could and should be with representatives from all sides if we didn't have the same handful of pisspants spamming nonsense they found on Twitter, a site they supposedly hate. (While almost never actually posting any thoughts of their own)
If your sig doesn't match your ballot they won't count your ballot. So people can't "just put your name on the envelope"How dumb are you?
Anyone can put your name on the envelope and mail it back.
They hand out mail-in voter requests like candy or those postcards that get put in magazines.
You just gave examples of how it gets frauded while trying to say you can't fraud it.No; they cannot.
The county checks the signature on the bar-coded envelope against the one I put on file.
If they don't match, I get notified to correct it.
Also:
The county WILL NOT send me more than one ballot. If I get notified they sent it to me, and I do not find it, because a MAGA stole it and attempted to commit voter fraud, I contact the county, and they flag that original bar-coded envelope as "not valid" and they send me a NEW uniquely barcoded ballot/envelope.
- The county notifies me when they send my uniquely bar-coded ballot out
- The county notifies me when they receive my signed ballot
- The county notifies me when my ballot is accepted as valid (signature matches)
If I get notification that my ballot was receive, and I have not sent it in yet, I contact the county and tell them.
In fact, this is precisely how the former RNC chairman in Colorado was identified in committing voter fraud with his ex-wife's mail-in ballot. Signature did not match, and they traced the forgery back to him.
Instead of being put in prison for 10 years (he was white), he just got probation, because a judge "bought" his bullshit that it was a "diabetic episode". Dude should have been fined the max, and taken off voter rolls for a decade or more.
Might be good for you. I'd like to go to the dem one sometime just to witness it and see that side.I can’t imagine spending 10 minutes in a crowd that went 50% MAGA.
More likely they'd make you go to the courthouse, they would cancel the current one issued, and re-issue you one at the courthouse.No; they cannot.
The county checks the signature on the bar-coded envelope against the one I put on file.
If they don't match, I get notified to correct it.
Also:
The county WILL NOT send me more than one ballot. If I get notified they sent it to me, and I do not find it, because a MAGA stole it and attempted to commit voter fraud, I contact the county, and they flag that original bar-coded envelope as "not valid" and they send me a NEW uniquely barcoded ballot/envelope.
- The county notifies me when they send my uniquely bar-coded ballot out
- The county notifies me when they receive my signed ballot
- The county notifies me when my ballot is accepted as valid (signature matches)
If I get notification that my ballot was receive, and I have not sent it in yet, I contact the county and tell them.
In fact, this is precisely how the former RNC chairman in Colorado was identified in committing voter fraud with his ex-wife's mail-in ballot. Signature did not match, and they traced the forgery back to him.
Instead of being put in prison for 10 years (he was white), he just got probation, because a judge "bought" his bullshit that it was a "diabetic episode". Dude should have been fined the max, and taken off voter rolls for a decade or more.
A crowd full of Abbys and Hitmans and JimStarrs? No thanks. I have enough problems with people I care about.Might be good for you. I'd like to go to the dem one sometime just to witness it and see that side.
I’m a Republican dumb fvck. A very disgruntled Republican, but still registered as a Republican.You think a vote that happens in open air and in front of everyone is "backwards" but you mock the people who have concerns with mail in voting? Nobody knew what code word was getting picked 10 minutes prior to our group of workers picking it 10 minutes before we started letting people in, it would have been impossible for someone to create a ticket. With time anyone can make anything.
Me thinks your party influences your mindset.
Conversations like "Haley is in china's pocket"
You and I must have different definitions of what constitutes good discussion, my internet friend.It was actual good discussion