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This is what happens when Trump can't bring in or hand pick crowds

And all the smoke and mirrors regarding crowd sizes and polling numbers will only fuel the fires of the rigged election idiots once he gets smoked in November. Then the dunces will be out in full force…doing who knows what…?
I just watched American Experience: The Riot Report on PBS. I strongly recommend it.

The conflicts and riots then were serious. They could be worse today if (when?) there's a belief that the 2024 election was stolen.

 
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What was that all about?
The libertarians hate him because they see trump as a person who takes away freedoms and liberties which is opposite of libertarianism. And Trump had about the largest national debt increase ever for 4 years which libertarians hate, they are for smaller govt.

I am sure glad we got to see a not trump crown just once boo him off the stage
 
The libertarians hate him because they see trump as a person who takes away freedoms and liberties which is opposite of libertarianism. And Trump had about the largest national debt increase ever for 4 years which libertarians hate, they are for smaller govt.

I am sure glad we got to see a not trump crown just once boo him off the stage
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Example in politics: A voter who is interested in politics might follow election news, attend local debates, and occasionally discuss policies with friends and family.

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This reminds me of 2016.

Hillary alienated a bunch on the left during the D primaries. She could have won a lot of them back, but she didn't try. At some point, it was too late.

Maybe the same will happen to Trump.

OTOH, by going to the Libertarian convention, he does seem to be making some effort.

I wonder how Hillary would have been treated if she had spoken at the Green convention in 2016.

I remember when you claimed to be a libertarian. Wasn’t your name Parser back then?
 
This reminds me of 2016.

Hillary alienated a bunch on the left during the D primaries. She could have won a lot of them back, but she didn't try. At some point, it was too late.

Maybe the same will happen to Trump.

OTOH, by going to the Libertarian convention, he does seem to be making some effort.

I wonder how Hillary would have been treated if she had spoken at the Green convention in 2016.
I agree with much of this, however the Green Party is very much left of the D party. Libertarians believe in limited government which includes government staying out of a woman’s uterus, gay people’s right to marry, legalization of MJ, etc etc. I wouldn’t say we are to the right of Rs.
 
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I remember when you claimed to be a libertarian. Wasn’t your name Parser back then?
Yes to both.

Still have libertarian leanings. But left-libertarian. Meaning I'm disowned by those who think libertarians are people who hate federal government but love state government, religious power, and corporate power.

REAL libertarians oppose large concentrations of power - of any kind. But we live in a real world where we can't escape them.

So . . . left-libertarians prefer to back the concentrations of power that are governed by constitutions and are responsible to the people - and we prefer those public concentrations of power to be stronger than the corporate and religious concentrations that aren't answerable to the people.

TMI?
 
Na, if Trump wins we'll become the new USSR, never recover and mandatorily join him in DC each year for the military marching parade.

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Let's say Trump wins.

Let's say Trumps snuggles close to Putin.

Putin is currently snuggling close to China.

Does that suggest Trump will let China have Taiwan?

Some are saying that Xi has plans to take Taiwan in 2027.
 
Huey and yourself should room together in the psych ward when Trump wins in November.
THESE LOONY MARXIST LIBS WON’T KNOW WHAT TO DO WHEN DA DONALD ROLLS IN NOVEMBER!!!!!!!! US ALPHA DAWGS ARE GONNA TAKE OVER AND KICK THE FOOKIN LIFE OUTTA THESE BATHHOUSE PIRATES LIKE BERNIE AND DA SQUAD AND DA SLOW JOE AND DA CHE GUEVARA!!!!!!! THEY ARE TOO BUSY GUZZLIN SEMEN AND SOY AND PUTTING WIENERS IN BUTTS INSTEAD OF DRINKING REFRESHING SPRITE WHICH DOESNT CAUSE CAVATIES AND IS PART OF A BALANCED ALPHA DAWG DIET!!!!!!!
 
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Trump tried to block the libertarians at their own convention in DC from attending the room where his speech was going to take place but the Libertarians stopped that scheme and booed the crap out of him for the entire speech. He was seething, he was angry and lost, he couldn’t handle it. He tried making all his empty promises but the crowd continued to boo him. He clenched his teeth in anger and started attacking the audience. Trump got to see what people really think of him when he’s not in front of his MAGA cult. A weak pathetic vile disgusting loser. We cover it here



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The one thing you and I can agree on is how insane support for Trump is.
His problem is he never gets above 45-46 in polls. He lost the popular vote in 2016 and 2020. Voter suppression in the critical states is the key to his campaign, and believing he can flip states like Minnesota.
 
Let's say Trump wins.

Let's say Trumps snuggles close to Putin.

Putin is currently snuggling close to China.

Does that suggest Trump will let China have Taiwan?

Some are saying that Xi has plans to take Taiwan in 2027.
The reality is Trump is going to do the opposite of what Democrats would want him to do, so Dems should quickly learn to LOVE China. ;)

Seriously, though, I guess we'd have to look at History since we don't know the future. Agent Orange had significant business dealings in China before his presidency through the Trump Organization, however, his administration took a hard stance against China with tariffs and targeting Chinese tech companies. Those tariffs affected over $350 billion worth of Chinese imports. IIRC Biden's been imposing tariffs as well, probably even more, so I'd venture to say, with regards to China, they don't benefit from either president in the WH.

But Trump would like sell America TO the Chinese if it meant more ratings, so there's that aspect as well. Who knows...he actually gets worse by each passing month. I'd love to see a psychological documentary that strictly focuses on how power and influence completely deteriorated Trump's mind. It would be an interesting study into the effects of power on a narcissist
 
The reality is Trump is going to do the opposite of what Democrats would want him to do, so Dems should quickly learn to LOVE China. ;)

Seriously, though, I guess we'd have to look at History since we don't know the future. Agent Orange had significant business dealings in China before his presidency through the Trump Organization, however, his administration took a hard stance against China with tariffs and targeting Chinese tech companies. Those tariffs affected over $350 billion worth of Chinese imports. IIRC Biden's been imposing tariffs as well, probably even more, so I'd venture to say, with regards to China, they don't benefit from either president in the WH.

But Trump would like sell America TO the Chinese if it meant more ratings, so there's that aspect as well. Who knows...he actually gets worse by each passing month. I'd love to see a psychological documentary that strictly focuses on how power and influence completely deteriorated Trump's mind. It would be an interesting study into the effects of power on a narcissist


Pretty sure it was a Ken Burns interview, but he discussed waiting @ a generation or so after an event. It helps let the dust settle and the emotion of the event become reflection. I am sure there will be plenty of Trump documentaries if he loses in Nov. If he wins, folks likely wait until he is out of power. I expect there are many angles to the rise and (hopefully) fall of TDS that we haven't even considered that would be interesting.
 
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Interested: Being interested refers to having a curiosity or concern about something, showing attention or involvement in a particular subject or activity. It's a state of wanting to learn more or be involved in something without it dominating one's thoughts or actions.

Example in politics: A voter who is interested in politics might follow election news, attend local debates, and occasionally discuss policies with friends and family.

Obsessed: Being obsessed means having an intense or overwhelming preoccupation with a particular subject, idea, or activity to the point where it dominates one's thoughts and behaviors. Obsession often implies a level of focus that is excessive and potentially unhealthy.

Example in politics: An individual who is obsessed with politics might spend the majority of their time consuming political news, engaging in heated debates online, attending every political event, and allowing political discussions to overshadow other aspects of their life.

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