I think that’s with a lot of overtime but still.
The automation protection is an incredibly dumb part of this. Technology will continue to advance whether they want it to or not.
This longshoreman strike will get ugly
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The automation protection is an incredibly dumb part of this. Technology will continue to advance whether they want it to or not.
What good will all that automation be when nobody is working and can't afford all those automated products.
It’s a fair question but the UAW seems to be able to deal with it.
The CWA seems to be around even though switch boards are no longer filled with operators.
Longshoremen need to ask their Union President that question. His salary of $900K last year MUST mean he’s a really smart guy and I bet he has the answers.
UAW is only 1 of a small number right now, what happens when AI has everything automated. Somebody isn't thinking ahead, or are they.
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We all know this wouldn't be happening if DJT was president. LOL
We always have those that believe every strike will turn ugly, while we see most does not. It takes many people to work on a contract and get to an agreement that both sides can live with. I say this, as i have had the honor of working to get a contract in a union machinist contract back in the late 70s.
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Not to worry, the White House and the Dems asked Daggett to hold off until after the election so as to not cause problems for the Harris campaign. Is this more election interference?
HORT MAGAs were salivating over a very disruptive longshoreman strike to cripple the economy and hurt Kamala. Party over country, BAU.
Now they are tuned into their right wing media masters awaiting the next manufactured grievance or crisis
Now they are tuned into their right wing media masters awaiting the next manufactured grievance or crisis
It might be simply “the Power of Incumbency”…..
Sounds like the “strike” has been averted.
I do not want a strike. I want an uninterrupted supply of bananas. Do not care about the election. Unions suck, that is all.
I don’t think America has this solved going forward and it’s important to this country’s future. Unions, industry and workers everywhere have to deal with it.
As of a couple of hours ago the strike is suspended. Gets the country through the election and the holidays.
Dole and Chiquita still operate their own ships (even though Chiquita is no longer the legal owner of its fleet). Figuring out how to transport bananas has played no small part in reducing price fluctuations and ensuring you have a steady year-round supply of America's most popular fruit at your local grocery store
I'll say something as a union employee, of which I don't think there are many on the forum. Unions were created for damn good reasons. They paved the way for safe and fair working environments. They led to the creation of an established work week that still exists. They won numerous benefits for their workers. They fought for and were granted contract wages that folks could not only live on, but build a future on. With a family. These are great things. It's a glorious history that I admire and support. With that said, in speaking of my own union, none of these essential principles of union membership apply much anymore. If at all. Labor and safety laws are established and written in books today that can fill a bookshelf. Health insurance, life insurance, 401k, profit sharing, etc....they're everywhere in the non-union American working world. Many of these things are standard practice among full-time employees. But, the union protects you, people say. The union has your back when the "company" treats you wrong. This is true. Without any teeth. The real watchdog of my railroad is the HR department. They act quickly and their actions bring results without a process. I can keep going with all of this and I might as the thread goes on. I'm just describing it as it actually is. As a long time union employee.
Thanks AI, but if the longshoremen don't unload the ship, the bananas rot while the ship is anchored offshore.
Good info. I grew up in a blue collar union Democrat home. I remember going with my Dad down to the union hall when I was about six to pick up his strike pay which wasn’t much. I remember eating peanut butter and jelly tlived for supper. My Mom got a part time job waiting tables from someone at our church who owned a restaurant to make ends meet.
This was in the 50’s and it seemed like it was for things that now are taken for granted like health care.
Unions had a vital role in creating a middle class in this country. But they’ve outlived their role in many industries today.
This. Most of the things they were fighting for are required for every workplace by law now days. Now it's just about money.
I've been asked before on this forum why I don't quit the railroad if I'm so against the union. Hyperbole abound, as usual. Regardless, it remains simple. Non-union railroads or contract railroad companies that pay into the RRB are scarce. And I can say that the RRB is center stage for almost all railroad employees. It is the golden briefcase. And it's not a union function. OK....people will say, you wouldn't have that great retirement if you hadn't paid into the RRB for so long on the wages that your union representation won for you. Fair enough. Well, I can say now as I've said before that I was offered a management job with a contract railroad company that paid almost double what I was making at the time. With all benefits. Why do you think I turned it down?
Huge win for Biden and democrats also Kamala. Unions happy, not much pain to the economy and democrats can show they solve tough situations. Thread the needle on the Middle East, continuing declining inflation and things lining up for democrats.
This is positive for democrats. Understand now? Might be difficult for you.
I thought Biden was going to be forced to call them back after a couple weeks.
He never leaves his basement so he wouldn’t know. 😵💫
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Their wages are decent, health care decent, just turned down a 40% raise. Eff em
Do you honestly believe this tripe, Trad? Things have gotten “:better” granted……and they need to get a l,ot better. The plight of the working man is a work in progress….and without representation and negotiation power, the worker is nothing more than cannon fodder for corporate management. Profits and worker rights are diametrically opposed in today’s world of capitalism. If you like our capitalistic system, you have to accept the inevitable threat of worker stoppages.
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