This might be a little tougher than Putin thought...

[hwk23]

@hwk23 Care to offer an explanation?

My first thought is that's really good publicity for Zelensky and this war is mostly about publicity. How hard would it be to organize a rally like that and how many billions will it be worth? It's nothing nefarious just smart. I thought Kherson was supposed to be evacuated in readiness for a Stalingrad like scenerio. Are these people even from Kherson? Plenty of people in Ukraine would be enthusiastic to retake Kherson. I never said there weren't. Ukraine is fully mobilized and half the country couldn't leave if they wanted to.

 

[Joes Place]

My first thought is that's really good publicity for Zelensky and this war is mostly about publicity.

No.

This war is not "mostly about publicity".

 

[Lindemann]

Ukraine's GDP will fall 30%+ this year. No surprise there. Russian attacks on the civilian infrastructure seem to that raise number higher.
The Ukrainians seem to be figuring out how to live with less electricity.

It's imperative we keep supporting Ukraine during the war and when the rebuilding begins. The Russians have really torn shit up.

Russian missile attacks accelerate GDP decline in Ukraine, says economy minister

Russian missile attacks on Ukraine's critical infrastructure accelerated the decline in the country's GDP to 39% in October 2022 year-over-year, Ukrainian Economy Minister Yulia Svyrydenko said at a briefing with U.S. media representatives on Nov. 10.

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[notlongago]

My first thought is that's really good publicity for Zelensky and this war is mostly about publicity. How hard would it be to organize a rally like that and how many billions will it be worth? It's nothing nefarious just smart. I thought Kherson was supposed to be evacuated in readiness for a Stalingrad like scenerio. Are these people even from Kherson? Plenty of people in Ukraine would be enthusiastic to retake Kherson. I never said there weren't. Ukraine is fully mobilized and half the country couldn't leave if they wanted to.

wow.....there is really no rationalizing with you is there?

 

[hwk23]

wow.....there is really no rationalizing with you is there?

Here is the video verified by NBC news as taken on Novemeber 11, 2022. At first glance it has far fewer people than the one on Twitter, like maybe 100-200 people or so and other differences like the flag is missing on top of the building. Also where are the miltary vehicles and personnel in the first video on Twitter? It may be real but I'm skeptical.

 

[NorthDSMHawk]

Here is the video verified by NBC news as taken on Novemeber 11, 2022. At first glance it has far fewer people than the one on Twitter, like maybe 100-200 people or so and other differences like the flag is missing on top of the building. Also where are the miltary vehicles and personnel in the first video on Twitter? It may be real but I'm skeptical.

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[cfbfan23]

Here is the video verified by NBC news as taken on Novemeber 11, 2022. At first glance it has far fewer people than the one on Twitter, like maybe 100-200 people or so and other differences like the flag is missing on top of the building. Also where are the miltary vehicles and personnel in the first video on Twitter? It may be real but I'm skeptical.

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Nutter

 

[hwk23]

LOL. Yes I don't believe everything on twitter. That's real tin hat stuff. Earlier someone posted a parade from 2018 shoiwng Russian soldiers carrying rifles from early 1900s and these were supposed to be conscripts going to Ukraine.

 

[Tenacious E]

My first thought is that's really good publicity for Zelensky and this war is mostly about publicity. How hard would it be to organize a rally like that and how many billions will it be worth? It's nothing nefarious just smart. I thought Kherson was supposed to be evacuated in readiness for a Stalingrad like scenerio. Are these people even from Kherson? Plenty of people in Ukraine would be enthusiastic to retake Kherson. I never said there weren't. Ukraine is fully mobilized and half the country couldn't leave if they wanted to.

Dafuq - this war is mostly about publicity?

 

[Tenacious E]

wow.....there is really no rationalizing with you is there?

Oh he can rationalize - reasoning is another matter.

 

[notlongago]

It may be real but I'm skeptical.

Color me (not) shocked....

 

[hwk23]

Dafuq - this war is mostly about publicity?

Ukaine's level of support is based on public opinion in the US and Europe. That's what I meant.

 

[Joes Place]

 

[hwk23]

Color me (not) shocked....

Let's see if they show the Twitter video on the MSM. The Twitter video, not the one verified by NBC. If not, it's a pretty good indication it was taken at a different time, maybe 2014. Like I said I'm skeptical. That means I might be wrong.

 

[Joes Place]

 

[noleclone2]

LOL. Yes I don't believe everything on twitter. That's real tin hat stuff. Earlier someone posted a parade from 2018 shoiwng Russian soldiers carrying rifles from early 1900s and these were supposed to be conscripts going to Ukraine.

Suck it, Russian Troll:

 

[Joes Place]

 

[Lindemann]

Suck it, Russian Troll:

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Fake. These people want to be Russian living under authoritarian rule in mud huts.

They just don't know it.

 

[notlongago]

Let's see if they show the Twitter video on the MSM. The Twitter video, not the one verified by NBC. If not, it's a pretty good indication it was taken at a different time, maybe 2014. Like I said I'm skeptical. That means I might be wrong.

Um...no, thats not a good indication.
Just to clarify for the group - you're assertion is what...? You're sounding a lot like a conspiracy theorist right now, but i dont want to make assumptions.

 

[Tenacious E]

Suck it, Russian Troll:

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Alex Jones told me those are all just crisis actors.

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

Winter is coming

Kyiv, Ukraine 10-Day Weather Forecast - The Weather Channel | Weather.com

Be prepared with the most accurate 10-day forecast for Kyiv, Ukraine with highs, lows, chance of precipitation from The Weather Channel and Weather.com

weather.com

 

[Slappy Pappy]

Obviously big news, if true, since Iranian drone attacks on Ukraine power systems has been virtually Russia's only offensive capability for the past several months. Ukraine is announcing this.

 

[Tenacious E]

Obviously big news, if true, since Iranian drone attacks on Ukraine power systems has been virtually Russia's only offensive capability for the past several months. Ukraine is announcing this.

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[Slappy Pappy]

....and Israeli weapons suddenly appear on the Ukrainian side?

 

[hwk23]

Um...no, thats not a good indication.
Just to clarify for the group - you're assertion is what...? You're sounding a lot like a conspiracy theorist right now, but i dont want to make assumptions.

Not much.. Just that the NBC verified video is from 11/11/22 but the one on Twitter might be a rally from an earlier time. Again I may be wrong. Generally I think it's prudent to be skeptical of any news coming from Ukraine though.

 

[Slappy Pappy]

Not much.. Just that the NBC verified video is from 11/11/22 but the one on Twitter might be a rally from an earlier time. Again I may be wrong. Generally I think it's prudent to be skeptical of any news coming from Ukraine though.

 

[h-hawk]

 

[hwk23]

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That's a much different video than the original one on Twitter that started this conversation. There's maybe 200 people there. The first one had probably 10k+ which is a lot for a city that's supposed to be evacuated.

 

[h-hawk]

 

[Tenacious E]

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Every Russian fort/encampment I see looks like a cross between a junkyard and a landfill.

 

[h-hawk]

 

[h-hawk]

Some Ukraine forces already on the other side?

 

[h-hawk]

SIAP

 

[h-hawk]

Operation Cobra? (I dream big.)

 

[Joes Place]

....and Israeli weapons suddenly appear on the Ukrainian side?

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....I bet Mossad has some info there...

 

[h-hawk]

 

[TigerHawk33]

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What Army lives like this? The evidence of poorly trained, zero discipline and horrible morale. The Russian army is a paper tiger which has been neutered by corruption. They only have nukes keeping them relevant.

 

[hydro2.0]

Huge win for Ukraine. Still lots of territory to retake but is this the time to strike?

 

[Tenacious E]

Huge win for Ukraine. Still lots of territory to retake but is this the time to strike?

They just keep on keeping on with what they have been doing. It is not sudden, but they are methodically grinding the orcs into dust.

 

[seminole97]

My first thought is that's really good publicity for Zelensky and this war is mostly about publicity. How hard would it be to organize a rally like that and how many billions will it be worth? It's nothing nefarious just smart. I thought Kherson was supposed to be evacuated in readiness for a Stalingrad like scenerio. Are these people even from Kherson? Plenty of people in Ukraine would be enthusiastic to retake Kherson. I never said there weren't. Ukraine is fully mobilized and half the country couldn't leave if they wanted to.

I would expect most civilians who wanted to see Kherson be part of Russia evacuated, while those who wanted to stay in Ukraine remained.