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This might be a little tougher than Putin thought...

It IS a Russian attack on collective security.

Because if Russia thinks it can keep shooting missiles near NATO borders w/ impunity and w/o a response when "bad things happen", collective security of those border communities is no longer guaranteed.
Wrong. Its another attack on Ukraine. As has already been pointed out to you: collateral damage.
You can keep digging if you'd like, but you're simply wrong.
 
Wrong. Its another attack on Ukraine.

Did I not state that?

But when misguided missiles on non-military targets can stray into NATO territories, we are allowing the "security" of those border areas to be compromised, if those actions are not met with repercussions.

The simple answer here is for Russia to not send anything within >100 mi of NATO borders. Because NONE of those borders are currently near any active fighting front-lines.
 
Milley would get shredded on this board 😂😂

Russian stooge 😄

 
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Milley would get shredded on this board 😂😂

Russian stooge 😄

It's sad to see so many of our political and military leaders on Putin's payroll.
 
Did I not state that?

But when misguided missiles on non-military targets can stray into NATO territories, we are allowing the "security" of those border areas to be compromised, if those actions are not met with repercussions.

The simple answer here is for Russia to not send anything within >100 mi of NATO borders. Because NONE of those borders are currently near any active fighting front-lines.
Nope, you didnt. You said its an attack on collective security. its not. Its collateral damage from an attack on Ukraine.
Seriously, just stop. You're drowning and for some reason, keep adding more weight to your shoes.
 
No one?

“Hitting NATO territory with missiles…This is a Russian attack on collective security! This is a really significant escalation. Action is needed.”

Of course he wants NATO involved. Ukranians are dying and their land is being mined which will kill people for years to come. The sooner Russia is repelled the better. While Ukraine will win the war, the loss of life is something it will take them several generations to recover from.
 
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Of course he wants NATO involved. Ukranians are dying and their land is being mined which will kill people for years to come. The sooner Russia is repelled the better. While Ukraine will win the war, the loss of life is something it will take them several generations to recover from.
Oh I don’t blame him for wanting to get NATO involved. He’s in a life and death struggle for his country.

I do think Ukraine/Zelensky have been fantastic rallying support for their cause but…I do think they have to be careful.

They (Ukraine) can’t be seen as trying to push NATO into active participation. One thing no NATO nation wants is escalation. Zelensky can’t be seen as a loose cannon in that regard.
 
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eh, I highly doubt the countries supporting Ukraine are going to get mad because he claims it was a Russian missile.
They will if they think Ukraine is trying to pull NATO into the conflict. Already have some wavering support in NATO.
 
Does anyone know how far behind those daily trackers are? I keep waiting to see the results of the kherson storm, but those daylies have been pretty flat since then.
 
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Nope, you didnt. You said its an attack on collective security. its not. Its collateral damage from an attack on Ukraine.
If they continue hits that land in NATO territory, it's most definitely impacting the "security" where that collateral damage occurs.
 
If they continue hits that land in NATO territory, it's most definitely impacting the "security" where that collateral damage occurs.
Again. Wrong.
And "they" didn't hit the land, Ukraine did. You can't even keep your own narrative straight at this point.
 
JUST LIKE the examples I've provided for you on "friendly fire" in police standoffs.
Ukrainian missile never launches UNLESS there is a Russian missile targeting them. It is 100% Russia's responsibility, and NATO should treat it that way.
I can read your posts just fine. You're just wrong.
 
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