Maybe more evidence of withdrawal.
This might be a little tougher than Putin thought...
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Awesome business model.
Step 1) Spend billions and lose billions of military equipment and destroy army
Step 2) Get put on sanctions and devalue currency and ability to import and export so kill economy.
Step 3) Get some lime rock and asphalt and washing machines as you run home.
Brilliant!
Cowards...all of them.
Bomb civilians and steal shit is the extent of their aggression.
"In Russia, a new march of militarized kindergartens (here no less than 14 classes) under the proud and moved gaze of their parents - by its magnitude, this militarization of toddlers is, to my knowledge, unique in the world"
"In Russian occupied Energodar, Zaporizhia region Russia has apparently begun evacuating its wounded by ambulances from the hospital. It has also started closing the hospital down"
I'm not sure if this is a Pepsi, or not, but I've seen multiple reports of the Russians moving the bulk of their Black Sea Fleet from Sevastopol to Novorossiysk, which is 200+ miles away. I may be wrong, but I think the tank farms in Novorossiysk were also hit by a long range drone a week or two ago. The Ukrainians are making a concerted effort to hit fuel depots. Moving the ships is an admission they are not safe, and that the Russian Navy is not really into this fight.
https://www.newsweek.com/russian-warships-retreat-crimea-ukraine-1798646
https://www.newsweek.com/russian-warships-retreat-crimea-ukraine-1798646
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Ukrainska Pravda
Sat, May 6, 2023 at 2:19 PM CDT·2 min read
Ivan Fedorov, the mayor of Melitopol, says that the Russians’ "evacuation" of the occupied part of the Zaporizhzhia Oblast is happening too quickly, and huge queues have formed at the Chongar checkpoint on the road from Melitopol to Crimea.
Source: Fedorov on air during the national joint 24/7 newscast and on Telegram
Quote: "The partial evacuation they announced is going too fast, and there is a possibility that they may be preparing for provocations and [for that reason - ed.] focusing on civilians."
Details: Recalling the way things happened in Tokmak, Fedorov said that starting on Friday, buses or convoys of buses have been departing from the city once every 20-30 minutes, carrying "only a third of civilians, and the rest are disguised military personnel." According to the mayor, these buses are mostly going to Berdiansk, where the civilians are staying, while military personnel continue to be taken to Mariupol. Also, in Tokmak, there are crazy queues for bread, and most gas stations are out of gasoline.
Ukrainska Pravda
Sat, May 6, 2023 at 2:19 PM CDT·2 min read
Ivan Fedorov, the mayor of Melitopol, says that the Russians’ "evacuation" of the occupied part of the Zaporizhzhia Oblast is happening too quickly, and huge queues have formed at the Chongar checkpoint on the road from Melitopol to Crimea.
Source: Fedorov on air during the national joint 24/7 newscast and on Telegram
Quote: "The partial evacuation they announced is going too fast, and there is a possibility that they may be preparing for provocations and [for that reason - ed.] focusing on civilians."
Details: Recalling the way things happened in Tokmak, Fedorov said that starting on Friday, buses or convoys of buses have been departing from the city once every 20-30 minutes, carrying "only a third of civilians, and the rest are disguised military personnel." According to the mayor, these buses are mostly going to Berdiansk, where the civilians are staying, while military personnel continue to be taken to Mariupol. Also, in Tokmak, there are crazy queues for bread, and most gas stations are out of gasoline.
"Two Ukrainian main battle tanks shell a Russian position"
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"Russia has told people to leave 18 settlements in the Zaporizhzhia region, including Enerhodar near the plant, ahead of Kyiv's anticipated offensive.
The Ukrainian mayor of Melitopol, Ivan Fedorov, said there were five-hour waits as thousands of cars left.
The UN's nuclear watchdog warned a "severe nuclear accident" could occur.
Rafael Grossi - the director of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) - said the situation at the Zaporizhzhia plant was "becoming increasingly unpredictable and potentially dangerous".
The IAEA statement said that "while operating staff remain at the site" there was "deep concern about the increasingly tense, stressful, and challenging conditions for personnel and their families".
It said IAEA experts at the plant had "received information that the announced evacuation of residents from the nearby town of Enerhodar - where most plant staff live - has started".
On Friday, the Russian-installed regional head Yevgeny Balitsky said that "in the past few days, the enemy has stepped up shelling of settlements close to the front line".
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65515443
...and Ukraine did this with the West's support, for a pittance of our own military budget...
2,6,4,5,3,7,8,1 M1FLTGIS?
still a great value for the money spent, don’t you agree?
Probably but would rather answer when final bill and results are in. I also have a corruption concern with some weapons possibly getting into wrong hands in the future.
Compared to the Iraq and Afghanistan 4-6 trillion price tag and 6300 troops lost, 100 billion and zero troops lost is a pittance. And it has gained instead of a third world Iraq or Taliban controlled Afghanistan, the taking out of our greatest rival and threat from 1944-2022 and unnerving of our third biggest threat.
The True Cost of the Afghanistan War May Surprise You
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Relax, no US servicemen have been killed or injured that you have to pretend you care about providing for later on.
Concern is again growing over the Zaporizhzhia nuclear plant. I’m not an expert tactician, but I’ve always believed the Ukrainians view the plant as a dagger at their heart, and rightfully so. I don’t trust Russia, they would torch that place if Putin orders it. I can see the Ukrainians prioritizing a thrust to cut the plant off and seize it.
apnews.com
Nuclear watchdog's worries grow over Ukraine plant safety
The head of the United Nations’ nuclear watchdog is expressing growing anxiety about the safety of the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant. Rafael Grossi's comments on Saturday came after the governor of the Russia-occupied area ordered the evacuation of a town where most plant staff live amid...
apnews.com
That’s not even including the intelligence value.
So far, from just what’s public:
- We have the most modern version of the T-90
- The electronics suite from an Su-35
- An S-400 air defense system
- Krasukha-4 Electronics Warfare Command Module
- A downed Kinzhal hypersonic missile along with boatloads of data on how Russian hypersonics work
- Endless naval warfare info
… a veritable trove of good data.”
LOLWUT?
Go figure out that fraction of our current military budget.
(HINT: You don't even need to "math" this one, Google can probably compute it FOR you)
100 billion is not more than 10% of 4 to 6 trillion.Mkay?
Edit trillion rather than billion.
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