This might be a little tougher than Putin thought...
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Why do you think it's taking so long to modify them....you seem to know your stuff on this so interested on how you see it.
From an air force prospective....I'm not sure how long it'd take if we wanted to take aircraft out of the boneyard and get them back in service. I'm thinking F-15's and F-16'S here....
I think it'd take a long time because I don't think we have the infrastructure in place to do it in any speedy fashion...parts, trained personnel etc....
Maybe the same issue with these M1's?
The army first has to ship our current tanks to somewhere in Ohio to be stripped of all classified elements and then be reassembled and lower the standards for our export versions.
I think my basic question is...do you think we have the adequate infrastructure (parts/personnel) in place to really start kicking those out?
I have my doubts...
We’re not talking boneyard tanks and improving them. We are talking our current frontline tanks and stripping them down to be able to be exported. Just shows how big and bloated the federal government is.
Not a chance. We are not on a war footing and quite frankly we are a lazy and bored country. That’s why we spend all day arguing with each other over politics and trans people.
On the Air Force side we contracted out that level maintenance. Which IMO was a mistake.
Used to be way back in the 80's and early 90's we had active duty personnel...with civil service that handled depot maintenance. When it was active duty/civil you basically got a highly trained active duty maintenance cadre that brought that knowledge out to active units. It also provided flexibility when we sent aircraft to depot...receive a TCTO maintenance requirement (modification to the fleet for safety/performance purposes) you could just add it to the list of things the depot guys would knock out.
Once it went contractor and all civilian....if it wasn't in the contract when the aircraft was received by depot...good luck adding it. Which meant active units would have to do that maintenance modification when it was returned to the fleet.
Anyway, I just think that shift hurt aircraft mx and I would think the Army followed the same path.
Which is maybe why this has been so slow...
It seems the West and US are getting more serious about it but we really should ramp up production like all of us (West and US ) are in the war. Putin seems to want to go out taking his country with him and we may have to oblige him.
I guess a "good" thing to come out of this war is it's highlighted some of the production shortfalls that weren't really apparent when we were engaged in 20 years of "low intensity" conflicts.
Hopefully we have enough time to address the short falls....
Read an article about China/Taiwan that highlighted this issue.
I hope this is accurate!
Great day so far.
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I wonder what will happen to all of his Days Inn points now that he's dead?
Are they transferrable?
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Fingers crossed…
Chechen Leader Claims Righthand Man Is ‘Alive and Well’ After Battlefield Death Reports
Chingis Kondarov/ReutersChechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov says his cousin and close ally Adam Delimkhanov is “alive and well” after a flurry of reports Wednesday said the Chechen lawmaker was wounded or possibly killed on the battlefield in Ukraine. According to Kadyrov, the panic over Delimkhanov’s...www.yahoo.com
Didn't the tanks arrive in Germany 4 weeks ago? They're training on them now
You know, reading your exchange on this has been very interesting. During COVID, we saw the effect of stripping supply and distribution chains of health care products to the bone in the name of maximal price efficiency. Had never really thought of what that might look like in a defense setting, but here we are...
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if the federal government were, indeed, "big and bloated", they'd have completed this months ago.
The fact it is taking so long would suggest the opposite, somewhere in the "project chain"
I realize it is hard to take out dams (The Dam Busters) but wish Ukraine should make Russia feel this pain. They probably have the weapons to at least damage some smaller ones.
"there is an intense counterbattery duel being fought...The Russians are hunting for Ukraine’s artillery with Lancet UAVs. The Ukrainians are utilising Storm Shadow and GMLRS to try to destroy Russian command and control and munitions stockpiles." https://rusi.org/explore-our-re
"If Ru units can be forced to reposition...poor training and discipline...could see the defence become uncoordinated & susceptible to collapse. Bringing about such conditions would require...significant actions by the Ukrainians to get the Russians moving" https://rusi.org/explore-our-re
https://twitter.com/shashj
"At some pt, [Ukr] will have to decide where to commit...main assault units, and the offensive will enter its decisive phase...the offensive will either achieve a breakthrough or fail. Success is binary, not linear. The line is either broken or it is not"
"there is an intense counterbattery duel being fought...The Russians are hunting for Ukraine’s artillery with Lancet UAVs. The Ukrainians are utilising Storm Shadow and GMLRS to try to destroy Russian command and control and munitions stockpiles." https://rusi.org/explore-our-re
"If Ru units can be forced to reposition...poor training and discipline...could see the defence become uncoordinated & susceptible to collapse. Bringing about such conditions would require...significant actions by the Ukrainians to get the Russians moving" https://rusi.org/explore-our-re
https://twitter.com/shashj
"At some pt, [Ukr] will have to decide where to commit...main assault units, and the offensive will enter its decisive phase...the offensive will either achieve a breakthrough or fail. Success is binary, not linear. The line is either broken or it is not"
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Pay up or you fall out window!
Another view and some more details of Russian power plant fire.
Ukrainska Pravda
Wed, June 14, 2023 at 7:05 AM CDT·1 min read
A thermoelectric power plant in Novocherkassk, in Russia’s Rostov Oblast, has caught fire. The power plant is the oblast’s largest source of power.
Source: RIA Novosti, a pro-Kremlin Russian news outlet; Meduza; 161.ru
Details: Reports suggest that a total of 200 square metres of the power plant’s roof is on fire.
Local rescue services are claiming that dozens of firefighters have been deployed to the site of the incident.
The power plant staff reported that the open fire on the plant's premises had been extinguished, and the facilities resumed working.
Local media cited sources in law enforcement agencies who said that the fire spread over 400 square metres and injured three people.
Ukrainska Pravda
Wed, June 14, 2023 at 7:05 AM CDT·1 min read
A thermoelectric power plant in Novocherkassk, in Russia’s Rostov Oblast, has caught fire. The power plant is the oblast’s largest source of power.
Source: RIA Novosti, a pro-Kremlin Russian news outlet; Meduza; 161.ru
Details: Reports suggest that a total of 200 square metres of the power plant’s roof is on fire.
Local rescue services are claiming that dozens of firefighters have been deployed to the site of the incident.
The power plant staff reported that the open fire on the plant's premises had been extinguished, and the facilities resumed working.
Local media cited sources in law enforcement agencies who said that the fire spread over 400 square metres and injured three people.
Chechen Leader Claims Righthand Man Is ‘Alive and Well’ After Battlefield Death Reports
Chingis Kondarov/ReutersChechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov says his cousin and close ally Adam Delimkhanov is “alive and well” after a flurry of reports Wednesday said the Chechen lawmaker was wounded or possibly killed on the battlefield in Ukraine. According to Kadyrov, the panic over Delimkhanov’s...
Don't they know she is suppose to "accidentally" fall from that balcony. That's how the Russians handle this sort of thing.
Amateurs
