This might be a little tougher than Putin thought...
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Ukraine’s Western-Trained Brigades Begin to Enter the Fight
WASHINGTON — They are fighting more effectively at night than their Russian counterparts, U.S. officials say. They are using U.S.-made Bradley fighting vehicles to destroy Russian armor with anti-tank missiles. And they are deploying combined arms tactics — synchronized attacks by infantry...
Got back from a week in the UK and couldn't access HORT while there. I was hoping for major news updates for Ukraine but that was not the case. Still, seeing advances is a good thing.
Is it some sort of protest that soldiers recorded this and put it on line. Thankful but still don't understand how all this stuff gets uploaded.
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Russia is using Thermobaric missiles on insurgents inside its own borders
Russian thermobaric weapons kill by using a pressure wave of fuel that mixes with atmospheric oxygen, flowing around structures.
"Explosions were heard in Skadovsk for the third time today"
"4 explosions were reported in Henichesk causing fires"
"4 explosions were reported in Henichesk causing fires"
I can't believe he hasn't accidentally fallen out of a window or down a flight of stairs yet.
www.yahoo.com
Russian mercenary boss says Moscow's war in Ukraine based on lies
Russian mercenary chief Yevgeny Prigozhin said on Friday that the official Kremlin-backed version of why Moscow invaded Ukraine was based on lies concocted by his perennial adversary - the army's top brass. Prigozhin has for months been accusing Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu and Russia's top...
More about Progozhin’s comments that are outside the official narrative, and some commentary as to why he and others are getting leeway, for now
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Infighting among Putin's lieutenants hurts Russia's war footing, if not his hold on power
After spending more than two decades building a rigidly controlled political system, Russian President Vladimir Putin is silently watching increasingly raucous infighting that has emerged among top members of his entourage amid the war in Ukraine. While it doesn’t pose any immediate threat to...
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Progozhin’s making a power play but he’s going after Shoigu, not Putin. Once Shoigu’s military has been beaten, it would be prudent to send a cruise missile at Progozhin’s head.
Just a reminder, that he earned his MoH for charging into an insurgent stronghold alone and clearing an entire two-story house by himself to prevent insurgents from firing an RPG at his fellow soldiers.
Are the Ukrainians using that white cross for friend or foe identification? Seems like a cross would be a bad choice as it could be confused with medical units. Not that the Russians don’t knowingly shoot at them too.
Interesting -" For Ukrainians, the use of an equilateral cross is a tribute to Cossack traditions. This sign was used by Cossacks in their heraldry and flags. The white cross was one of the elements of the coat of arms of Dmytro Vyshnevetsky, the founder of Zaporozhian Sich — the cradle of Ukrainian Cossacks."
Let's go for a Civil War!
"The chief of Russian mercenary group Wagner on Friday accused Moscow's military leadership of ordering strikes on their camps and killing a "huge" number of forces.
"We were ready to make concessions to the Defense Ministry, surrender our weapons," Yevgeny Prigozhin said in a furious audio message released by his spokespeople.
"Today, seeing that we have not been broken, they conducted missile strikes at our rear camps."
He vowed to "stop" Moscow's top military leadership and called on Russians not to resist his forces.
"The council of commanders of PMC Wagner has made a decision — the evil that the military leadership of the country brings must be stopped," Prigozhin said in the audio message, urging Russians to remain calm.
This story is being updated."
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023...huge-number-of-wagner-forces-prigozhin-a81615
"The chief of Russian mercenary group Wagner on Friday accused Moscow's military leadership of ordering strikes on their camps and killing a "huge" number of forces.
"We were ready to make concessions to the Defense Ministry, surrender our weapons," Yevgeny Prigozhin said in a furious audio message released by his spokespeople.
"Today, seeing that we have not been broken, they conducted missile strikes at our rear camps."
He vowed to "stop" Moscow's top military leadership and called on Russians not to resist his forces.
"The council of commanders of PMC Wagner has made a decision — the evil that the military leadership of the country brings must be stopped," Prigozhin said in the audio message, urging Russians to remain calm.
This story is being updated."
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023...huge-number-of-wagner-forces-prigozhin-a81615
Let's go for a Civil War!
"The chief of Russian mercenary group Wagner on Friday accused Moscow's military leadership of ordering strikes on their camps and killing a "huge" number of forces.
"We were ready to make concessions to the Defense Ministry, surrender our weapons," Yevgeny Prigozhin said in a furious audio message released by his spokespeople.
"Today, seeing that we have not been broken, they conducted missile strikes at our rear camps."
He vowed to "stop" Moscow's top military leadership and called on Russians not to resist his forces.
"The council of commanders of PMC Wagner has made a decision — the evil that the military leadership of the country brings must be stopped," Prigozhin said in the audio message, urging Russians to remain calm.
This story is being updated."
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023...huge-number-of-wagner-forces-prigozhin-a81615
Sounds like rebellion to me.
May have already been posted. A deep dive into the split in the Russian military leadership. (I admit I just skimmed though it
It really is happening. Wagner vs Russia
Our assault brigades see everything, systematic strikes are now being carried out on the positions of the Russians. You would hear the radio broadcast of these *** now. The impression is that part of the Russian regular troops are killing their own, and it seems that part of the military is supporting Prigozhin. While it is not clear what is finally happening, it is a bloodbath"
Our assault brigades see everything, systematic strikes are now being carried out on the positions of the Russians. You would hear the radio broadcast of these *** now. The impression is that part of the Russian regular troops are killing their own, and it seems that part of the military is supporting Prigozhin. While it is not clear what is finally happening, it is a bloodbath"
It is a slow implosion of leadership. There has to be a lot of internal taking of sides going on in Russian military. How does Putin not deal with Wagner insurrection? It’s good for Ukraine that Russia is so inept. Hopefully the implosion picks up pace and Putin has to withdraw his Army from Ukraine to protect himself in Russia.
What are the likely outcomes of this? Wagner defends itself and causes uprising in Russia, Russia destroys Wagner kills most of its troops also some of their own. The entire army begins to fold . . . We possibly see a steady decline in effectiveness, or the Russians actually begin to become slightly more cohesive. Personally I think it’s a jolt and a continued steady retreat. You will also lose one of your best offensive platoons. This may be a big turning point though.
Yep. It is the big question. From what I am reading on Twitter peeps I follow (and seem not beholden to too crazy of stuff) rumor is that some of the military is falling in line with Wagner as have the rebels invading Russia in Belgorod. Question will be have Wagner and Russian Military groups been coordinating and planning. It could spell a big reversal on North front and major threat to Moscow if so. Heck, the rocket attack on them may have been faked.
His statement about how war started in 2014 and Ukraine only targeted military targets 2014-2020 to me is interesting. I personally think an intentional and maybe required statement that lends credibility to the even wilder thoughts Ukraine and Wagner are now coordinating and aligned. Sort of “if we are going to trust you, you must publicly come clean on how things really started”
"Battleships #Rus in ( #Rastov one of the cities where the #Rus #Wagner group is most active. Via: (
@UkraineNews0
) https://t.co/sh9F6T3npr"
@UkraineNews0
) https://t.co/sh9F6T3npr"
And all Putin had to do to remain in power was to not invade Ukraine.
