The rumor is that Prigozhin’s been diverting ammunition for his own use so he isn’t left powerless.
This might be a little tougher than Putin thought...
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This is BS
Biden got NATO re-unified and working together behind Ukraine, repairing the broken bridges Trump left him.
You're the one posting revisionist history here.
You are not a bright individual
1. Russia pays them.
2. Russia allows Wagner to effectively loot the countries they go into of natural resources like gold, gemstones, and other mineral / carbon resources, which are effectively laundered through Russia. Everyone gets a cut.
It's nice to see that Vindman is getting his reputation back after the cult savaged him.
You need to understand, though, that a "hot dog vendor" in Moscow is really a mini-mob boss in the works. You don't run a chain of hot-dog stands w/o strong-arming your competition into submission via killings and threats, in Moscow.
Prigozhin was a Russian mafia guy from the get-go, and latched on to Putin to really rocket up the ranks.
He's no military genius, just another mob boss who coat-tailed on with the Big Boss.
He's listening to Tucker Carlson's feed...
Well, this is far more than I was expecting to happen over the last 24 hours. Russians killed Russians. The war effort has been disrupted. Putin has been weakened.
Kremlin says Prigozhin will depart for Belarus after rebellion fizzles
Putin accused maverick warlord of risking civil war by seizing parts of Russia’s south and marching on Moscow.www.politico.eu
Today has been a win for the good guys.
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So I just saw some reports that the Kremlin has said that Wagner is headed to Belarus? This just gets stranger and stranger…
So, Lukashenko is out. Prigozhin gets to run Belarus
Belarus will now actively enter the fight. When that happens, it's time for NATO to light Belarus up like a Christmas tree.
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Interesting, all doesn’t make a ton of sense…so he spent months planning this thing to stand down and exile to Belarus….
UNLESS, as others said….he’s going to take over Belarus, but that is strange too since Lukashenko orchestrated the whole deal.
Who knows, time to just throw my hands up and forget about it.
If that’s the actual deal Prigozhin is a dead man.
He may fall down some stairs in Belarus soon.
Nighty night fascists.
These artillery strikes are too close for comfort…..
These artillery strikes are too close for comfort…..
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Somebody is being stupid and someone else is waiting for the other to let his guard down or become distracted. Or they both are doing that.
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I vote this❤️
Somebody is being stupid and someone else is waiting for the other to let his guard down or become distracted. Or they both are doing that.
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I vote this❤️
Would be funny to make a Survivor: Moscow meme with all their pics.
Maybe Lukashenko "orchestrated" this to save his own ass, since he hasn't entered the Ukraine fray despite Putin's bidding for months now.
Lukashenko gets to live; Prigozhin gets to run Belarus and get them to start another front against Ukraine.
I’ve been waiting nearly 500 days and 1,400 thread pages to finally witness the events of the last 24 hours. Where is all of this now headed? Who knows? What’s certain is we live in very interesting times.
So what happens to Shoigu? Was his future part of the deal?
It's a helluva Season II finale.....heading into Season 3....
Looks like it. The Wagner troops who participated can’t be trusted, so they’re vulnerable. The MoD forces that joined are as good as dead.
There is a significant wave of desertions and surrenders of soldiers 🇷🇺 on the front in Zaporizhia.
This has been confirmed in two areas, if this trend continues, everything will collapse in a few days.
Map: @Martinnkaaaa
Spring: @wolski_jaros
If you don't think our spooks are trying to influence things, then you're very naive.
That's a good thing regardless they are defending Putin is the point
Not a surprise to anyone here that we are giving Ukraine too little, too slowly to be able to push Russia out on our timeline.
Imagine what the leaders of the US/NATO militaries would demand in terms of armored formations and airpower bombardment before they would launch an offensive against the entrenched Russian forces, and you realize how unrealistic our expectations really are for them to break through to the sea with just a few dozen or a hundred modern tanks and no air superiority.
www.yahoo.com
Imagine what the leaders of the US/NATO militaries would demand in terms of armored formations and airpower bombardment before they would launch an offensive against the entrenched Russian forces, and you realize how unrealistic our expectations really are for them to break through to the sea with just a few dozen or a hundred modern tanks and no air superiority.
NATO hesitated when Ukraine begged for weapons. Now their counteroffensive against Russia is hitting snags, analysts say.
Analysts, experts, and a Ukrainian official said the time lost trying to acquire Western weapons is one detriment to Kyiv's counteroffensive.
If Prigozhin, and any significant portion of his soldiers are heading to Belarus this is a huge win. They've been effective on the battlefield.
I’m all for the chaos this is creating within Russia but Prigozhin is in this for himself. His goals aren’t 💯 aligned with the rank and file of Wagner or other similar troops. He’s an ogre that brings zero long term benefit to Europe or Russia. His usefulness has a shelf life and the sooner Russia is rid of people like him, the better off they are.
Give him credit, he seems to have been pretty good at pretending to be an everyman leader to the rank and file of Wagner, even as he was getting them killed by the thousands.
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