This might be a little tougher than Putin thought...
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What is "fiananced"?
Wagner has been on Putin's payroll since its inception. It has always been used as Russia's international armed forces around the world (Africa/Middle East).
If you know something the State Department doesn't, you should give them a heads up.
I honestly don't know. I was legit asking.
That seems nuts if it was, but it seems like something that would have been public knowledge or easy to find out at least.
Thought you had seen the depths of depravity of the Russian fascists? Think again.
In the replies it says they are picking up diplomats who are finishing their terms. 🤷🏻♂️
"finishing their terms" = "sided with Prigozhin"
I think the answer is yes. They could pay more because they weren't dependent on conscripts. Anecdotally there is reporting about how the core of Wagner is made up of special forces / combat veterans types. They probably get paid even more. Plus, Wagner generates its own income in the nations it is deployed to, and there is always graft. Those core members sign on knowing they will get a cut.
I'm sure one of the reasons Wagner got so big so fast was they could offer cash bonuses the army simply could not match. Down side is the chance you die in a human wave trying to take Bakhmut.
RIP in pieces, bitches.
AP story about a Wagner convict serving a sentence for murder, who after serving out his contract went home, and murdered again.
Nice reporting from inside Russia. Putin isn’t letting the public know about the deals he’s cutting to get manpower.
apnews.com
Nice reporting from inside Russia. Putin isn’t letting the public know about the deals he’s cutting to get manpower.
A Wagner ex-convict returned from war and a Russian village lived in fear. Then he killed again
Reports of killings, robberies and sexual assaults are emerging in Russian media.
apnews.com
So...apparently we can't count the dead Russians killed by Prigozhin's guys?
Shucks!
Shucks!
It would be kind of cool 😎 to invent some stories and plant some “evidence” that implicates some of these guys as being on Prigozhin’s side and then watch them “accidentally” fall out of some windows.
This. Putin doesn’t need much of a nudge to be paranoid and kill of a rival. I wouldn’t feel sorry for any of them.
Russia is preparing for more eco terrorism. They have rigged the massive Titan chemical plant in Crimea with explosives. The land bridge from Ukraine proper to Crimea is five miles wide at the location of this plant, and the devastation would be immense.
news.yahoo.com
Russian invaders mine the Crimean Titan plant – what will happen if they blow it up
The Zaporizhzhya Nuclear Power Plant (ZNPP) is not the only dangerous facility where the Russian invaders have prepared to cause another man-made ecological catastrophe.
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HB Heisman
What exactly is there to discuss?
Poland: ”Vlad if I send you these awesome long range missiles what are you going to do with them?”
Ukraine: “I’m going to sink every ship I can and bomb the f*ck out of Russian airbases and long range artillery.
Poland:
Days after Russia extricated itself from its biggest domestic political crisis in decades, President Vladimir Putin and the Wagner mercenary chief, Yevgeny Prigozhin, continue to deal with the reverberations. Amid the uncertainties, this much is clear: the saga has produced no winners, only losers. Belarus’s president Aleksandr Lukashenko put it well, even as he drew attention to his role as peacemaker: “I asked people not to make a hero out of me, neither out of me, nor out of Putin, nor out of Prigozhin.”
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...ozhin-vladimir-putin-west-russia-fossil-fuels
For Putin, the consequences of the turmoil are obvious. The Wagner group’s unimpeded march to within 200km (127 miles) of Moscow took Russia’s military and intelligence services by surprise and exposed the Russian system writ large as utterly inept – a far cry from the image of competence and strength that Putin has cultivated assiduously since rising to the presidency in 1999. Wagner’s capture of Rostov – a city of a million and the headquarters of the southern military district – and its northward march toward the capital along the M4 highway left Russia’s strongman looking like a hapless bystander. That, at minimum, tarnished his image – an essential ingredient of his overweening power.
www.theguardian.com
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...ozhin-vladimir-putin-west-russia-fossil-fuels
For Putin, the consequences of the turmoil are obvious. The Wagner group’s unimpeded march to within 200km (127 miles) of Moscow took Russia’s military and intelligence services by surprise and exposed the Russian system writ large as utterly inept – a far cry from the image of competence and strength that Putin has cultivated assiduously since rising to the presidency in 1999. Wagner’s capture of Rostov – a city of a million and the headquarters of the southern military district – and its northward march toward the capital along the M4 highway left Russia’s strongman looking like a hapless bystander. That, at minimum, tarnished his image – an essential ingredient of his overweening power.
The Russian coup-that-wasn’t fell flat. The next one might not | Rajan Menon and Daniel R DePetris
While some analysts have argued that Putin’s rule was never truly threatened, Putin’s actions suggest he believed otherwise
It was a play on how Joe thinks. Which is why I said escape hatch. Think a little
They’re mercenaries. They will take money from whomever. Doesn’t mean they are “part of the Russian military” if they were part of the Russian military they couldn’t operate in other countries. Maybe a “de facto” army but not in the traditional sense.
