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This might be a little tougher than Putin thought...

Much of the "developing world" either backs Russia or are ambivalent about the war....

Yet actions like these hurt them the most...weird.



Russian missile attacks on Ukraine's Black Sea coast have destroyed 60,000 tonnes of grain and damaged storage infrastructure, officials say.
Agriculture Minister Mykola Solskyi said a "considerable amount" of export infrastructure was out of operation.
Russia has pulled out of an international grain deal in place since last summer, guaranteeing safe passage for exports across the Black Sea.
The Kremlin argued its demands for Russian exports had not been honoured.




‘It’s not a pretty picture’: Russia’s support is growing in the developing world​



It does not hurt the "power brokers" in those countries one iota.

It hurts the people in those countries who do not have a voice. Which are the same ones walking 1000+ miles to try to get to America's borders. And they simply do not care if those people leave their countries. They are considered a burden in their own countries. Not an asset.

EDIT to add "considered" a burden; they are not necessarily a burden - they could be assets to their own country, if those running the country wanted to utilize them and assist them.
 
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Interesting read from The Atlantic:

Stop Micromanaging the War in Ukraine​

Not everything is under America’s control.
By Phillips Payson O’Brien

One of the biggest challenges that a superpower faces is figuring out what it can and cannot do. When you are a global hegemon, you might believe that you can micromanage wars, orchestrate foreign countries’ diplomatic relations and internal politics, and precisely calibrate how others perceive you. That tendency is evident in the American approach to Ukraine. Although the U.S. has provided Ukraine some strong diplomatic support and a significant amount of modern weaponry, it has done so with a catch. To avoid provoking Russia too much, it seems, the Biden administration has been very restrained in offering additional types of weaponry—and therefore additional military capabilities—to Ukraine. Until recently, the U.S. has given noticeably mixed signals about when or even whether NATO, the West’s preeminent military alliance, might accept Ukraine into its ranks.

The overall presumption seems to be that the U.S. can give Ukraine just enough help—without going too far. Lesser powers than the United States tend to make simpler calculations: Pick a side and do whatever you can to help it win.

The twists and turns at last week’s NATO summit in Vilnius, Lithuania, revealed American strategy making at its worst and best. The opening day could have been disastrous. The alliance’s official communiqué—which the U.S. presumably played a major role in shaping—said up front that Russia “is the most significant and direct threat to Allies’ security and to peace and stability in the Euro-Atlantic area.” Yet the statement included a word salad of qualifications and obfuscations about whether Ukraine—the country now actually at war with Russia, and thus protecting many NATO states—would be allowed into the alliance. Though the statement said “Ukraine’s future is in NATO,” it offered only the vaguest idea of when even the process bringing about that future might start. The key paragraph puzzlingly concluded that NATO “will be in a position to extend an invitation to Ukraine to join the Alliance when Allies agree and conditions are met.” So Ukraine seemed to be being offered a deeply conditional chance to receive an invitation to possibly join NATO sometime in the unknown future. The implication was: We view Ukraine as a partner, but only up to a point.

Ukrainian leaders were not happy. President Volodymyr Zelensky, who is usually extremely complimentary of the U.S. and NATO, publicly blasted the statement after its wording became known. Describing its language as “unprecedented” and “absurd,” he expressed the reasonable fear that NATO was leaving open a “window of opportunity” to bargain away Ukraine’s membership in future negotiations with Russia. The hostility and intensity of the Ukrainian reaction seemed (strangely) to take the Biden administration by surprise—so much so that, according to The Washington Post, U.S. officials considered striking back by further watering down the statement’s support for Ukraine. This would have been a catastrophic blunder.

Yet after the U.S. unnecessarily provoked the Ukrainians, who are fighting for their country’s existence, and then considered making things worse by punishing them, the administration pivoted sharply and, on the second day at Vilnius, provided far more reassurance. President Joe Biden himself clarified that he believed that Ukraine could get into NATO quickly once the current fighting was over, and the Ukrainian armed forces received pledges of extensive military support. By the end, not only did the alliance seem far more united about Ukraine’s status but Ukrainian leaders were much happier.

The summit offered an important lesson in what the U.S. should and, more important, should not do. American leaders, like their Soviet counterparts during the Cold War, frequently act as if they are in control of other countries and the course of events. During the Vietnam War, the U.S. did not trust the South Vietnamese to defeat the Communists and progressively took over more and more of the fighting until the war was essentially between North Vietnam and the United States. So when the U.S. lost the desire to sustain the conflict and started withdrawing in the late 1960s, the South Vietnamese state that it had infantilized over the previous decade was incapable of preserving its own independence. Both the U.S.S.R. and the U.S. made a similar error in Afghanistan.

America’s approach toward the war in Ukraine bespeaks some understanding of the limits of American power. The Biden administration, with seemingly strong bipartisan backing, has studiously avoided Americanizing the war by introducing U.S. combat forces into the fray. It has provided significant support for Ukraine with weapons, training, intelligence, and the like—but the Ukrainians are the ones fighting and dying. These limitations on U.S. involvement are a positive development, heralding a less intrusive form of U.S. intervention in future conflicts.

Phillips Payson O’Brien: The future of American warfare is unfolding in Ukraine
 
The not so practical part is that this appears to be orders for the future.




WASHINGTON, July 18 (Reuters) - The United States will announce a new pledge to buy $1.3 billion worth of military aid for Kyiv in its conflict with Russia in the coming days, two U.S. officials said.

The previously unreported weapons package includes air defenses, counter-drone systems, exploding drones and ammunition, one of the U.S. officials said.

The United States is using funds in its Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative (USAI) program, which allow President Joe Biden's administration to buy weapons from industry rather than pull from U.S. weapons stocks.
 
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Interesting read from The Atlantic:

Stop Micromanaging the War in Ukraine​

Not everything is under America’s control.
By Phillips Payson O’Brien

One of the biggest challenges that a superpower faces is figuring out what it can and cannot do. When you are a global hegemon, you might believe that you can micromanage wars, orchestrate foreign countries’ diplomatic relations and internal politics, and precisely calibrate how others perceive you. That tendency is evident in the American approach to Ukraine. Although the U.S. has provided Ukraine some strong diplomatic support and a significant amount of modern weaponry, it has done so with a catch. To avoid provoking Russia too much, it seems, the Biden administration has been very restrained in offering additional types of weaponry—and therefore additional military capabilities—to Ukraine. Until recently, the U.S. has given noticeably mixed signals about when or even whether NATO, the West’s preeminent military alliance, might accept Ukraine into its ranks.

The overall presumption seems to be that the U.S. can give Ukraine just enough help—without going too far. Lesser powers than the United States tend to make simpler calculations: Pick a side and do whatever you can to help it win.

The twists and turns at last week’s NATO summit in Vilnius, Lithuania, revealed American strategy making at its worst and best. The opening day could have been disastrous. The alliance’s official communiqué—which the U.S. presumably played a major role in shaping—said up front that Russia “is the most significant and direct threat to Allies’ security and to peace and stability in the Euro-Atlantic area.” Yet the statement included a word salad of qualifications and obfuscations about whether Ukraine—the country now actually at war with Russia, and thus protecting many NATO states—would be allowed into the alliance. Though the statement said “Ukraine’s future is in NATO,” it offered only the vaguest idea of when even the process bringing about that future might start. The key paragraph puzzlingly concluded that NATO “will be in a position to extend an invitation to Ukraine to join the Alliance when Allies agree and conditions are met.” So Ukraine seemed to be being offered a deeply conditional chance to receive an invitation to possibly join NATO sometime in the unknown future. The implication was: We view Ukraine as a partner, but only up to a point.

Ukrainian leaders were not happy. President Volodymyr Zelensky, who is usually extremely complimentary of the U.S. and NATO, publicly blasted the statement after its wording became known. Describing its language as “unprecedented” and “absurd,” he expressed the reasonable fear that NATO was leaving open a “window of opportunity” to bargain away Ukraine’s membership in future negotiations with Russia. The hostility and intensity of the Ukrainian reaction seemed (strangely) to take the Biden administration by surprise—so much so that, according to The Washington Post, U.S. officials considered striking back by further watering down the statement’s support for Ukraine. This would have been a catastrophic blunder.

Yet after the U.S. unnecessarily provoked the Ukrainians, who are fighting for their country’s existence, and then considered making things worse by punishing them, the administration pivoted sharply and, on the second day at Vilnius, provided far more reassurance. President Joe Biden himself clarified that he believed that Ukraine could get into NATO quickly once the current fighting was over, and the Ukrainian armed forces received pledges of extensive military support. By the end, not only did the alliance seem far more united about Ukraine’s status but Ukrainian leaders were much happier.

The summit offered an important lesson in what the U.S. should and, more important, should not do. American leaders, like their Soviet counterparts during the Cold War, frequently act as if they are in control of other countries and the course of events. During the Vietnam War, the U.S. did not trust the South Vietnamese to defeat the Communists and progressively took over more and more of the fighting until the war was essentially between North Vietnam and the United States. So when the U.S. lost the desire to sustain the conflict and started withdrawing in the late 1960s, the South Vietnamese state that it had infantilized over the previous decade was incapable of preserving its own independence. Both the U.S.S.R. and the U.S. made a similar error in Afghanistan.

America’s approach toward the war in Ukraine bespeaks some understanding of the limits of American power. The Biden administration, with seemingly strong bipartisan backing, has studiously avoided Americanizing the war by introducing U.S. combat forces into the fray. It has provided significant support for Ukraine with weapons, training, intelligence, and the like—but the Ukrainians are the ones fighting and dying. These limitations on U.S. involvement are a positive development, heralding a less intrusive form of U.S. intervention in future conflicts.

Phillips Payson O’Brien: The future of American warfare is unfolding in Ukraine

I disagree with this entirely.

If you are the US, you bait Russia into accepting an agreement to "leave Ukraine - all of it - including Crimea" and we won't accept Ukraine into NATO. You feed that narrative.

Then, you back door 'em and let Ukraine into NATO (quickly), forever preventing them from any future aggression w/o ensuring their destruction by NATO.

And you say "F*** you assholes" when they complain about it.

"What you gonna do about it, now? You got no army or tanks left, and now you have a defensive adversary with 10x the manpower and firepower. Suck it, Vlad."
 


"The S-125 Neva/Pechora (Russian: С-125 "Нева"/"Печора", NATO reporting name SA-3 Goa) is a Soviet surface-to-air missile system that was designed by Aleksei Isaev to complement the S-25 and S-75. It has a shorter effective range and lower engagement altitude than either of its predecessors and also flies slower, but due to its two-stage design it is more effective against more maneuverable targets. It is also able to engage lower flying targets than the previous systems, and being more modern it is much more resistant to ECM than the S-75. The 5V24 (V-600) missiles reach around Mach 3 to 3.5 in flight, both stages powered by solid fuel rocket motors. The S-125, like the S-75, uses radio command guidance. The naval version of this system has the NATO reporting name SA-N-1 Goa and original designation M-1 Volna (Russian Волна – wave)."WIKI
 
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I disagree with this entirely.

If you are the US, you bait Russia into accepting an agreement to "leave Ukraine - all of it - including Crimea" and we won't accept Ukraine into NATO. You feed that narrative.

Then, you back door 'em and let Ukraine into NATO (quickly), forever preventing them from any future aggression w/o ensuring their destruction by NATO.

And you say "F*** you assholes" when they complain about it.

"What you gonna do about it, now? You got no army or tanks left, and now you have a defensive adversary with 10x the manpower and firepower. Suck it, Vlad."
What's good about that is when Putin complains about NATO breaking its word, you just remind him that Russia has signed *5* treaties since the breakup of the USSR recognizing and guaranteeing Ukraine's borders, and now broken all of them!

Any treaty signed by Russia isn't worth the paper it's written on. That's why Ukraine's entrance into NATO can be the only end to this war.
 
FWIW



Think this shows the area but a different spelling - Orikhiv.

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What's good about that is when Putin complains about NATO breaking its word, you just remind him that Russia has signed *5* treaties since the breakup of the USSR recognizing and guaranteeing Ukraine's borders, and now broken all of them!

Any treaty signed by Russia isn't worth the paper it's written on. That's why Ukraine's entrance into NATO can be the only end to this war.
Yep

You just ignore them.

Come and take on NATO if you want, bitches.
 
The specifics of the new aid package.


"Unlike Presidential Drawdown authority, which DoD has continued to utilize to deliver equipment to Ukraine from DoD stocks at a historic pace, USAI is an authority under which the United States procures capabilities from industry or partners to then send to Ukraine. This announcement represents the beginning of a contracting process to provide additional priority capabilities to Ukraine.

"The capabilities in this announcement, which totals $1.3 billion, include:


  1. Four National Advanced Surface-to-Air Missile Systems (NASAMS) and munitions;
  2. 152mm artillery rounds;
  3. Mine clearing equipment;
  4. Tube-Launched, Optically-Tracked, Wire-Guided (TOW) missiles;
  5. Phoenix Ghost and Switchblade Unmanned Aerial Systems (UAS);
  6. Precision aerial munitions;
  7. Counter-UAS and electronic warfare detection equipment;
  8. 150 fuel trucks;
  9. 115 tactical vehicles to tow and haul equipment;
  10. 50 tactical vehicles to recover equipment;
  11. Port and harbor security equipment;
  12. Tactical secure communications systems;
  13. Support for training, maintenance, and sustainment activities."
 
America has been slacking in the long range AA missile category. After the AIM-54 Phoenix was discontinued you were left with the AIM-120 AMRAAM. While it is a very good missile, it does not have the standoff range.

They are working on the AIM-260 and other long range missiles now, but it would have been good to not have this gap where we could give something to Ukraine to help deal with Russian bombers firing at range.
 
That's how I see it. The third world counties that need this still support the bums. I don't get it.
Russia has large food reserves of wheat. And access to cheap Indian agricultural products. They are providing Russian wheat to the developing world for free, much like a drug dealer giving a customer their first hit free. Predictably they become dependent on Russia.
 


"This discrepancy has led to questions about why the U.S. is protecting ships in the Middle East but not in the Black Sea. Those advocating for NATO naval ships to protect shipping in the Black Sea have faced criticism, with opponents arguing that the grain ships were transiting international waters not controlled by NATO. They contend that shooting down a Russian asset in international waters would be escalatory.


In response to these arguments, proponents of naval escorts have suggested for months that NATO begin by protecting NATO-flagged ships just within NATO’s territorial waters. Ships could sail close to the coast of NATO nations Romania, Bulgaria, and Turkey to exit the Black Sea. If Russia were to attack merchant shipping inside the territorial waters of NATO nations, would this be sufficient cause for NATO navies, including the U.S., to protect these ships?


This is the question raised by Ukraine."
 
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