Given the defensive nature of the system, this should be kept on the cascade of options, but we're probably a couple of steps from it yet.Patriot missiles to Poland-why not send them to Ukraine with "instructors". That is where they are needed.
Given the defensive nature of the system, this should be kept on the cascade of options, but we're probably a couple of steps from it yet.Patriot missiles to Poland-why not send them to Ukraine with "instructors". That is where they are needed.
Bet you won't make that mistake again!!! There is a difference between responding to Putin bombing maternity wards with "It sucks, but we can't risk WWIII" and a diatribe of "Go **** yourself Zelensky . We are trying to avoid a world War while sneaking you tech your country wouldn't have in 100 years if you were on your own"I agree with Whiskey on that take.
Blaming "the West" for Russia's crimes is asinine. We are doing what we can short of declaring war on Russia.
Dude looks like your typical Iowan ordering his 8th Busch Latte in any small town bar.Russians tried to break through the 24th OMBR lines. They failed. This guy destroyed two tanks and a BMD.
Our original reason (supposedly) was that there were none available and they required extensive training. But since we are afraid to send them aircraft, this seems the least we could do as far as air defense at altitude.Given the defensive nature of the system, this should be kept on the cascade of options, but we're probably a couple of steps from it yet.
That’s nice…..but security guarantees from Russia are worth about as much as the paper they will be printed on. Heck they already had security guarantees when they gave up their nukes right?
The "least" we can do is probably "Stingers Galore!!!". Then, some other forms of fixed SAM systems associated more with anti aircraft defense.Our original reason (supposedly) was that there were none available and they required extensive training. But since we are afraid to send them aircraft, this seems the least we could do as far as air defense at altitude.
I trust the country with the credit rating of imminent default.That’s nice…..but security guarantees from Russia are worth about as much as the paper they will be printed on. Heck they already had security guarantees when they gave up their nukes right?
i think you are misinterpreting the tweet. the "guarantor" would not be russia, but some western entity. In other words, they are not talking about a bilateral peace agreement. (WWI be damned!)That’s nice…..but security guarantees from Russia are worth about as much as the paper they will be printed on. Heck they already had security guarantees when they gave up their nukes right?
****ing dumb. It's a jerk off piece.It has to be the article....Certainly not the blowhard who can't admit he reacted in ignorance....much like the 35% of Americans you vote with.
Back to Ukraine.
Might be, but that term wasn't used in that article either.
No way in hell would Trump be doing this. America first!!If trump is elected again in 24, NATO may have to fight for another member without the US. I don’t believe for a minute that he would have stood with our allies had Russia done the same thing to Poland or the Baltic countries that they are now doing in Ukraine.
Guess again bro. My previous handle was "wasnt drunk didn't troll" aka "wddt" and I went to this for getting kicked off the main board for going after a husker ( goes by rubrummagnusvirtue now).Me only now just realizing that Whiskey is just another dadgum alt troll account started less than 2 years ago by the same angry attention whore troll who started all those other angry alt accounts I blocked.
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oooh, that's a sharp shirt, but an awfully misleading political solicitation. I'd do it if I thought i wouldn't end up on another political spam text list. On the other hand, I'd definitely do it if i thought I could get off the one i'm already on.
Me only now just realizing that Whiskey is just another dadgum alt troll account started less than 2 years ago by the same angry attention whore troll who started all those other angry alt accounts I blocked.
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EL OH EL at "**** yourself" hurting your feelings. We are supporting him, if he has a hard time understanding the extremes people are going to in order to support him yet keep this thing at a simmer he just need to be told to **** himself and cool his tits.Bet you won't make that mistake again!!! There is a difference between responding to Putin bombing maternity wards with "It sucks, but we can't risk WWIII" and a diatribe of "Go **** yourself Zelensky . We are trying to avoid a world War while sneaking you tech your country wouldn't have in 100 years if you were on your own"
I'll stand by my take. **** Putin, not Zelensky.
The Ukraine president is allowed to be upset. Dude is desperate and doing everything he can.
Hell of a narrative, the word democracy is used once in that article and it is somwthing like "democracies need stability" nothing along the lines of democracies winning, banning together, nothing. Good article that isn't worth a shit because they are trying to score dumb ****ing points.Not a troll. Just has a giant chip on his shoulder. There are times when he can admit error, but this is different than just being wrong about something. This is an example of him misunderstanding something and - even worse - multiple people point it out and explained it to him.
That's akin to torture for someone with his chip on the shoulder insecurity. Rather than acknowledge what most of us would just consider a simple mistake and no big deal, he's got to dig in, and do his routine that many of us now mock. You know the pisspants stuff, and the aggressive nonsense.
Still better and more entertaining than most of the rightwing nuts on here.
So you think he just joined here March 11, 2020 and has no other accounts? I swear there are or were some other accounts with same modus operandi.Not a troll. Just has a giant chip on his shoulder. There are times when he can admit error, but this is different than just being wrong about something. This is an example of him misunderstanding something and - even worse - multiple people point it out and explained it to him.
That's akin to torture for someone with his chip on the shoulder insecurity. Rather than acknowledge what most of us would just consider a simple mistake and no big deal, he's got to dig in, and do his routine that many of us now mock. You know the pisspants stuff, and the aggressive nonsense.
Still better and more entertaining than most of the rightwing nuts on here.
When and if the time comes for us to use our troops to get involved I hope they bomb every square inch of the shitstain that is Russia.![]()
Ukraine war: Russia confirms it has used thermobaric weapons, says UK's Ministry of Defence
Thermobaric weapons suck in oxygen from the surrounding air to generate a high-temperature explosion, typically producing a blast wave of a significantly longer duration than that of a conventional explosive.news.sky.com
Search bar is your friend bud. Or you could just take my word. This is my only account. Prior to Wddt I was "hawk-n-402".So you think he just joined here March 11, 2020 and has no other accounts? I swear there are or were some other accounts with same modus operandi.
And I say we draw it at the bombing of a civilian hospital.We draw the line at an attack on NATO soil.
The news just isn't coming in like it was in the beginning.This used to be a good thread.
Now it's just a BAU HROT dumpster fire.
So you think he just joined here March 11, 2020 and has no other accounts? I swear there are or were some other accounts with same modus operandi.
Top notch detective work there single speed.Yeah, I don't think he has any other accounts. I don't get the weird, basement dwelling, multiple internet persona feel from him at all. His posting style is also very consistent - doll with a string on his back level - to the point where it's easy for posters to mock it and others to recognize it.
If he was able to turn that style off and post under a alt, I would be shocked.
Care to point out anyone on this board that doesn’t think NATO will fight for a NATO member, besides you?
Hell of a narrative, the word democracy is used once in that article and it is somwthing like "democracies need stability" nothing along the lines of democracies winning, banning together, nothing. Good article that isn't worth a shit because they are trying to score dumb ****ing points.
We have no NATO obligation to help them.I've been reading two rationales for why the United States shouldn't act. One is that the Russians have nukes and we don't want to risk a nuclear exchange that would end humanity. The other is that Ukraine is not a member of NATO, so we have no obligation to help them.
It was a good article ruined by a bullshit agenda.Just trying to explain for others, as I suspect some are baffled, while others have seen it before.
oooh, that's a sharp shirt, but an awfully misleading political solicitation. I'd do it if I thought i wouldn't end up on another political spam text list. On the other hand, I'd definitely do it if i thought I could get off the one i'm already on.
EDIT: THE MORE I THINK ABOUT IT, THE MORE DESPICABLE THAT SOLICITATION IS. THIS IS NOT MONEY GOING FOR ANY FORM OF UKRAINIAN RELIEF.
It was a good article ruined by a bullshit agenda.
I must have missed the "withdrawl" part. I rmemeber Trump saying the other nato members needed to pay their membership dues but not that he would withdraw. Can you point me in the direction if a link to that?Absolutely
When a Putin puppet put in charge was ramping up to "withdraw". And absolutely would have with a 2nd term.