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This might be a little tougher than Putin thought...

This is five years old, but I doubt the relative values have moved much.
Ukraine will by far be the poorest member of the EU when they join.

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You’ve got to start somewhere. Ireland, Lithuania, and Estonia certainly didn’t come in the way they are now.
 
I've got no issue with her negotiating a press deal. Now if she's giving MSNBC insider information or something then that would be an issue. But simply lining up her next job? No real concern.
She also was a regular there before she took the White House job.

As others have expressed, I don't have a big problem with the revolving door of TV and politics. It happens everywhere between the government and the private sector. People have jobs that very naturally transition from one to the other and I know many people who have gone back and forth multiple times. Most of them a good actors.

The issue is when the influence overlaps or those of questionable ethics use their positions to an advantage.
 
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Joe, the only place I see Tucker Carlson clips are on here and Twitter....and they're almost universally blasting something he said.

He's a great foil for the D's...a bogeyman. He should pay for the free advertising...
He isn't a boogeyman. Boogeymen aren't real. Tucker ABSOLUTELY has caused damage in this country. He. Laura. Hannity. Lie after lie for years and years and people believe him. He's their goto for their belief system. He's real.
 
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And u can be wrong too. Tucker was able to get a personal meeting at Mar-La-Go with Trump during the first few months of Coronavirus. Tucker convinced Trump to change course on how he was handling it. Not experts from CDC, business leaders, etc. That's messed up.
ok, but, how's tucker's access to the biden administration?
 
Did you really just “we didnt want him anyways” ?

😂 😂 😂
No, just pointed out OPs conclusion about the relative wealth of Ukraine was incorrect.

Coincidentally, what were the wealthiest parts of Ukraine are what Russians went for, so Ukrainian GDP will be taking a hit.
 
So, you truly do not understand how "Troll Farms" work then?
Because there's a pretty solid outline of their effectiveness in the Mueller Report...
You know troll farms push a whole lot more than just Tucker Carlson right?

The 2020 election will bring more Russian-backed online disinformation campaigns aiming to exploit American protests over police brutality and systemic racism in order to foment division and distrust, experts predict.

Where it stands: There’s nothing new about Russia’s tactics — its intelligence agencies have been using disinformation to cynically aggravate U.S. racial tensions all the way back to the Cold War era. But we can’t resolve this problem with cyber countermeasures and informational defenses. It will require actually tackling the root problem of racial injustice itself.

Background: Russia’s pro-Trump electoral interference campaign in 2016 was “part of a broader, sophisticated, and ongoing information warfare campaign designed to sow discord in American politics and society,” according to a Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (SSCI) report released in 2019.

  • “No single group” was targeted more on social media by Russian disinformation than black Americans, according to the same report — with the majority of the posts on Russian accounts on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and YouTube centering on racial issues.
  • Much of the content on these accounts focused on police violence. In 2016, Russian accounts also encouraged black Americans not to vote at all or to cast a protest vote for a third-party candidate for president.
According to the SSCI report, in 2016, the Internet Research Agency (IRA), a state-backed Russian troll farm and disinformation shop, was particularly focused on issues surrounding race and content aimed at black Americans.

  • On Facebook, 66% of the IRA ads were related to race, and its location targeting “was principally aimed at African Americans in key metropolitan areas,” according to the report.
  • A major IRA Facebook page, “Blacktivist,” had over 11 million user engagements.
  • On Instagram, half of the 10 most popular IRA accounts were aimed at black Americans. And on YouTube, 96% of the IRA’s activity was focused on “racial issues and police brutality.”





 
Arms can get blown off. At least on the torso you might get the kid missing an arm, or be able to ID them if killed. I have a USMC cousin who like many of his compatriots got their info tattooed under where their body armor protected their torso.
I swear to God, I read this forum every day and the amount of stupid shit Trad posts just never ceases to amaze me.

You name a subject... and Trad will make some comment that just makes you think WTF.
 
Isn't it a little scary that 15% of Americans have a favorable view of Russia? What side of the political aisle are those 15% on? Things have changed since they were considered the evil empire when I was growing up.
Cannot find a percentage but there were a lot of fans of the Nazis back in the day.

"In 1933, Hitler became the chancellor of Germany, and pro-Hitler groups popped up across the United States. They often targeted German Americans for recruitment and intimidated Jewish communities, historian Warren Grover tells Teen Vogue. By 1939, the German American Bund — one of the largest pro-Hitler groups in the country — had grown big enough to pack Madison Square Garden with 20,000 supporters.


Anti-Jewish sentiment in the U.S. wasn’t restricted to pro-Hitler groups, however. Until the U.S. entered World War II, in 1941, countless Americans opposed U.S. involvement in the war — despite relatively widespread media coverage of Hitler’s terror — including groups like the America First Committee, whose membership included anti-Semites and Nazi sympathizers. Ford Motor Company founder Henry Ford, who in the 1920s distributed half a million copies of anti-Jewish rants, was among the group’s members. Charles Coughlin, an Irish Catholic priest, used his national radio show, which reached millions, to stir up anti-Jewish sentiment. His supporters formed a group called the Christian Front, which created a “Christian Index,” of non-Jewish stores to support and whose members attacked Jews in the streets of cities like New York, historian Tony Michels tells Teen Vogue."

 
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You know troll farms push a whole lot more than just Tucker Carlson right?

The 2020 election will bring more Russian-backed online disinformation campaigns aiming to exploit American protests over police brutality and systemic racism in order to foment division and distrust, experts predict.

Where it stands: There’s nothing new about Russia’s tactics — its intelligence agencies have been using disinformation to cynically aggravate U.S. racial tensions all the way back to the Cold War era. But we can’t resolve this problem with cyber countermeasures and informational defenses. It will require actually tackling the root problem of racial injustice itself.

Background: Russia’s pro-Trump electoral interference campaign in 2016 was “part of a broader, sophisticated, and ongoing information warfare campaign designed to sow discord in American politics and society,” according to a Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (SSCI) report released in 2019.


  • “No single group” was targeted more on social media by Russian disinformation than black Americans, according to the same report — with the majority of the posts on Russian accounts on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and YouTube centering on racial issues.
  • Much of the content on these accounts focused on police violence. In 2016, Russian accounts also encouraged black Americans not to vote at all or to cast a protest vote for a third-party candidate for president.
According to the SSCI report, in 2016, the Internet Research Agency (IRA), a state-backed Russian troll farm and disinformation shop, was particularly focused on issues surrounding race and content aimed at black Americans.

  • On Facebook, 66% of the IRA ads were related to race, and its location targeting “was principally aimed at African Americans in key metropolitan areas,” according to the report.
  • A major IRA Facebook page, “Blacktivist,” had over 11 million user engagements.
  • On Instagram, half of the 10 most popular IRA accounts were aimed at black Americans. And on YouTube, 96% of the IRA’s activity was focused on “racial issues and police brutality.”





This. Per my post yesterday, the point of troll farms is simply to sow discord, and they do that quite well. Indeed, one might argue despite your patience here that the continual obsessive TC posts are a form of troll farming in their own right. (HINT HINT)
 
You’ve got to start somewhere. Ireland, Lithuania, and Estonia certainly didn’t come in the way they are now.

Long-term UKR is a strong bet. They had a thriving tech sector prior to the war.




Also strong on science and innovation

 
The actual "news" part, yes.

The "pundits" part?
Nope. They are full-on OAN.
I'm not sure the news part of Fox is all that great either. There is a reason Shep Smith hightailed it out of there. They may not blatantly lie like Tucker, Hannity and Ingraham, but they also have very selective coverage of anything that might go against MAGA.
 
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This seems like the rosetta stone for Putin's strategy. Not so mad when put in this context.

I think. it has been brought up before, but you cannot overemphasize the wish by Putin to make other countries dependent on Russian energy, his anger at Ukraine for being an independent, functioning democracy on his border, and his greed. I have no doubt that the Russians have pulled back, and will regroup in order to just cleave off the Eastern third of Ukraine, and their desired land bridge to Crimea.
 
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