This might be a little tougher than Putin thought...

[Tom Paris]

His max viewership is approx 1% of the population at 3.2M

I think his influence is vastly over rated.

Surprise! Tucker Carlson Draws the Most Democratic Viewers in Key Demo, Even Topping Rachel Maddow

Tucker Carlson was watched by more liberals in the key ratings demo in October than any other cable news program, according to Nielsen data.

www.thewrap.com

C'mon. He has caused a ton of damage with his lies to millions of viewers. Don't toss that away like it's nothing. When RUSSIA talks about him on their state television, as someone helpful to the cause, it's a big effing deal. Don't make Tucker your hill. He's causing a ton of damage.

 

[Tom Paris]

There is absolutely no comparison. None. Sorry.

Wilson is for democracy...she's not.

 

[Tenacious E]

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Yeah, it's crazy how evenly the houses are spaced out and there is a dead person on the street in front of every house.

 

[tumorboy]

C'mon. He has caused a ton of damage with his lies to millions of viewers. Don't toss that away like it's nothing. When RUSSIA talks about him on their state television, as someone helpful to the cause, it's a big effing deal. Don't make Tucker your hill. He's causing a ton of damage.

He also has the ear of some very influential US policy makers(current and past). That shouldn't be minimized.

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

C'mon. He has caused a ton of damage with his lies to millions of viewers. Don't toss that away like it's nothing. When RUSSIA talks about him on their state television, as someone helpful to the cause, it's a big effing deal. Don't make Tucker your hill. He's causing a ton of damage.

I didn’t toss it away like it was nothing. I said his influence has been exaggerated.

 

[torbee]

I didn’t toss it away like it was nothing. I said his influence has been exaggerated.

He spoke regularly with the last POTUS and helped shape policy enacted by the Executive Branch of the federal government.

You’re either woefully naive or purposely downplaying a major problem.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-cable-cabinet/2022/01/09/96fac488-6fe6-11ec-b9fc-b394d592a7a6_story.html

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

He spoke regularly with the last POTUS and helped shape policy enacted by the Executive Branch of the federal government.

You’re either woefully naive or purposely downplaying a major problem.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-cable-cabinet/2022/01/09/96fac488-6fe6-11ec-b9fc-b394d592a7a6_story.html

He’s deplorable.

His influence is exaggerated.

Both can be true.

 

[EagleHawk]

Tucker Carlson has the most watched show on fox.

And it's probably 60% Democrats looking for the next clip to shove down republicans throats.

 

[lucas80]

Human suffering obviously takes precedence but how sad is this...

According to the charity UAnimals, the shelter's 485 dogs remained locked in their cages from the beginning of the war in late February until the beginning of April, after Russian soldiers left Borodyanka and charity volunteers were able to return to the shelter. During that time, the dogs were left without any food or water, the charity said. By the time the volunteers finally gained access to the building on April 1, all but 150 of the 485 animals had died.

More than 300 dogs found dead in Ukrainian shelter after weeks without food or water due to the war, charity says

Disturbing footage appeared to show dead dogs on the floor of the shelter.

www.cbsnews.com

I saw that and thought that the human carnage is bad enough, but when you inflame the dog lovers you’ve truly lost it.

 

[Hoosierhawkeye]

He’s deplorable.

His influence is exaggerated.

Both can be true.

One of the hardcore cons I know at work named his child Tucker. Pretty sure that's not a coincidence.

His influence isn't exaggerated. His show strongly influences the right's politicians.

 

[lucas80]

She’s a nut job but so is Rick Wilson.

At least Rick Wilson didn’t let a loser like Jason Miller stick it in and make a baby out of wedlock

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

I saw that and thought that the human carnage is bad enough, but when you inflame the dog lovers you’ve truly lost it.

They’re pretty animated

 

[tumorboy]

He’s deplorable.

His influence is exaggerated.

Both can be true.

And u can be wrong too. Tucker was able to get a personal meeting at Mar-La-Go with Trump during the first few months of Coronavirus. Tucker convinced Trump to change course on how he was handling it. Not experts from CDC, business leaders, etc. That's messed up.

 

[Tenacious E]

This is it in terms of a red line, right? A "dirty" chemical bomb?

Russia’s Latest Atrocity Unleashed Nitric Acid Cloud That Could Blind Ukrainians

via Facebook Russian forces on Tuesday reportedly struck a tank of nitric acid in Ukraine’s Luhansk region, sparking panicked warnings for residents to protect their faces and remain indoors.Serhiy Gaidai, the head of the Luhansk regional administration, issued a video address warning residents...

www.yahoo.com

 

[Tom Paris]

I didn’t toss it away like it was nothing. I said his influence has been exaggerated.

Well I don't think you're right at all about that. Maybe before Russia television started loving him and propping him up from their side. So, not now. He's a national problem.

 

[torbee]

He’s deplorable.

His influence is exaggerated.

Both can be true.

300-plus million people live in America.
Tucker Carlson was one of maybe, what, 100 or so with a DIRECT LINE TO THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.

I don't think his influence was exaggerated at all. On the contrary, it has likely been de-emphasized far more than it should have been.

 

[Whiskeydeltadeltatango]

It's sad to see what has happened to a once great thread.

 

[Joes Place]

His max viewership is approx 1% of the population at 3.2M

Have you already forgotten how Russian Troll Farms amplify messages (inclusive of the ones from him) across multiple media platforms?

If those 3.2M post to simply reach 5 other people, you have 15M. If those 15M each reach out to 5 people, you have 75M. If those 75M reach out to 5 people each, you've covered well over half the country (even with "redundancies").

Propaganda spreading works just like ponzi schemes; geometrically.

 

[Joes Place]

They didn’t oppose Ukrainian membership in NATO because they hate Ukraine, or love Russia, but because they appreciated Russia would go to war over it.

Looks like that was a big miscalculation....

 

[Joes Place]

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Sesame Street will never, ever again be "brought to you by the letter Z"....

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

And u can be wrong too. Tucker was able to get a personal meeting at Mar-La-Go with Trump during the first few months of Coronavirus. Tucker convinced Trump to change course on how he was handling it. Not experts from CDC, business leaders, etc. That's messed up.

True, I could be.

How did Carlson change Trumps handling of Covid?

 

[timinatoria]

His max viewership is approx 1% of the population at 3.2M

I think his influence is vastly over rated.

Surprise! Tucker Carlson Draws the Most Democratic Viewers in Key Demo, Even Topping Rachel Maddow

Tucker Carlson was watched by more liberals in the key ratings demo in October than any other cable news program, according to Nielsen data.

www.thewrap.com

Especially when half of those viewers are Democrats who hate his guts.

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

Well I don't think you're right at all about that. Maybe before Russia television started loving him and propping him up from their side. So, not now. He's a national problem.

Ok. I respect your opinion.

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

300-plus million people live in America.
Tucker Carlson was one of maybe, what, 100 or so with a DIRECT LINE TO THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.

I don't think his influence was exaggerated at all. On the contrary, it has likely been de-emphasized far more than it should have been.

I think the direct line has been cut....don't see Joe taking his calls.

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

Have you already forgotten how Russian Troll Farms amplify messages (inclusive of the ones from him) across multiple media platforms?

If those 3.2M post to simply reach 5 other people, you have 15M. If those 15M each reach out to 5 people, you have 75M. If those 75M reach out to 5 people each, you've covered well over half the country (even with "redundancies").

Propaganda spreading works just like ponzi schemes; geometrically.

Joe, the only place I see Tucker Carlson clips are on here and Twitter....and they're almost universally blasting something he said.

He's a great foil for the D's...a bogeyman. He should pay for the free advertising...

 

[torbee]

I think the direct line has been cut....don't see Joe taking his calls.

And for the record, I'd be disgusted and alarmed if Joe Biden was soliciting policy advice from Keith Olbermann or Rachel Maddow as well.

That is NOT an acceptable function of someone in the 4th Estate, regardless of whether they are an opinion-slinger or not.

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

Especially when half of those viewers are Democrats who hate his guts.

Free advertising...

Half of Brian Stelter's show on CNN seems to be dedicated to him as well.

 

[Tenacious E]

Rachel Maddow

Speaking of Rachel, this picture blew my mind

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

And for the record, I'd be disgusted and alarmed if Joe Biden was soliciting policy advice from Keith Olbermann or Rachel Maddow as well.

That is NOT an acceptable function of someone in the 4th Estate, regardless of whether they are an opinion-slinger or not.

Agree....how do you feel about Psaki negotiating a deal with MSNBC while she's still the press secretary.....for arguments sake.

 

[torbee]

Agree....how do you feel about Psaki negotiating a deal with MSNBC while she's still the press secretary.....for arguments sake.

I think there is general understanding that the natural "next job" for any White House press flak is to find a home as a news pundit. Doesn't really bother me.

Now, once she is IN that job, she should be ethically obligated to no longer set policy and must stick solely to commentating on it.

 

[timinatoria]

This is five years old, but I doubt the relative values have moved much.
Ukraine will by far be the poorest member of the EU when they join.

And?

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

I think there is general understanding that the natural "next job" for any White House press flak is to find a home as a news pundit. Doesn't really bother me.

Now, once she is IN that job, she should be ethically obligated to no longer set policy and must stick solely to commentating on it.

Fair enough...

I think it's a conflict of interest while you're in the job but as you say...it's what they do. Every Trump press secretary got a gig on Fox it seems..

 

[cfbfan23]

Speaking of Rachel, this picture blew my mind

Are you sure that's not Gunnar Nelson?

 

[kc78]

I've got no issue with her negotiating a press deal. Now if she's giving MSNBC insider information or something then that would be an issue. But simply lining up her next job? No real concern.

 

[TC Nole OX]

In Bucha ‘they shot everyone they saw’

In Bucha ‘they shot everyone they saw’

Survivors’ accounts of the horrors Russian troops inflicted in Bucha, on the outskirts of Kyiv, are beginning to surface.

www.smh.com.au

 

[seminole97]

And?

Did you ignore what I quoted for some reason?

I was responding to the notion that Russia was poorer than Ukraine:

“I get the sense that Ukraine, not exactly a wealthy nation, seemed like a wealth nation to the average Russian soldier, to put in perspective how poor Russia is”

Ukraine is, per capita, a poorer nation than Albania.

 

[mnole03]

Of course the Russians let the dogs in the kennel die. Dogs are good.

 

[flyfishstout_CO]

Can we keep the political/fox news discussion away from this thread, please?

Such good stuff here and I really think we should focus on the atrocities that are now being documented along with the Russian repositioning in E. Ukr.

 

[timinatoria]

Did you ignore what I quoted for some reason?

I was responding to the notion that Russia was poorer than Ukraine:

“I get the sense that Ukraine, not exactly a wealthy nation, seemed like a wealth nation to the average Russian soldier, to put in perspective how poor Russia is”

Ukraine is, per capita, a poorer nation than Albania.

Sorry, missed that. My bad.

 

[timinatoria]

Such good stuff here and I really think we should focus on the atrocities that are now being documented along with the Russian repositioning in E. Ukr.

Good luck😂

I mean I agree Fox sucks but there are no other threads to bash Fox and Tucker Carlson in!