That’s why Russia won’t play. They will still survive if beaten on the battlefield. The Russian collective aren’t suicidal. They’re sheep. They will find a way to get rid of their current shepherd. If not they will feel the pain of being societal outcasts.
This might be a little tougher than Putin thought...
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And that is the tip of the iceberg. There are surely hundreds, if not thousands of similar crimes. This doesn't even include all of the plain old first degree murder.
I hope Ukraine goes Israel on these F-ers and tracks them down one by one.
That Fox reporter left two or three chunks of himself in Ukraine.
Fox News reporter injured in Kyiv attack says he is ‘pretty damn lucky’ to be alive
Briton Benjamin Hall, who lost half of one of his legs, has paid tribute to his colleagues who died, Oleksandra Kuvshynova and Pierre Zakrzewskiwww.theguardian.com
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“Why do I care what is going on in the conflict between Ukraine and Russia?!” Carlson said. “And I’m serious. Why do I care? Why shouldn’t I root for Russia? Which I am.”
Assume this is to compensate the Czechs for sending the S-300 systems to Ukraine.
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Yeah, what has Putin ever done to Tucker!?
I was reading in the Economist today that the only nations that have a decent portion of their economies based upon petro dollars, that aren't horribly corrupt and mismanaged are Norway and Canada. Those are the only two countries that have strong legal structures among the oil producers. The subject came up because Guyana is experiencing a booming oil industry as production fields are opened up off of their coast in the Caribbean. It's a small, underdeveloped nation, which is about to get really rich, really fast. They will be pumping 1 1/3 barrels of oil for every citizen by 2030. Saudi Arabia pumps 1/3 of a barrel per person.
SIAP - the second part on possible strategy makes me feel a little better about my fears of Russian tank armies roaming central Ukraine.
James Rothwell
Thu, 7 April 2022, 11:20 am·6-min read
A house in Severodonetsk, in the Donbas region, burns after being hit by a Russian missile - Fadel Senna/AFP via Getty Images
Britain and its Nato allies agreed on Thursday night to supply "new and heavier" weapons to Ukraine after Kyiv pleaded for fresh armaments in "days not weeks".
Liz Truss, the Foreign Secretary, said alliance counterparts met in Brussels to agree to help the defenders upgrade their "Soviet-era equipment to Nato standard".
Antony Blinken, US secretary of state, confirmed Washington was looking at "new systems" to send.
"We're not going to let anything stand in the way of getting Ukrainians what they need," he said.
"We are looking across the board right now, not only at what we have provided ... [but] whether there are additional systems that would make a difference."
The European Union also announced it was ready to release €500 million (£416 million) to fund more arms.
The pledges came after Ukraine's foreign minister said a looming battle against Russian forces in the east would be similar to Second World War-era combat.
As the Russian army prepared to launch a major offensive in the Donbas region, Dmytro Kuleba warned that Moscow would commit more atrocities against civilians unless Kyiv's troops were supported with Western artillery, jets and air defence systems.
"Either you help us now – and I’m speaking about days, not weeks – or your help will come too late and many people will die, many civilians will lose their homes, many villages will be destroyed, exactly because this help came too late," he said on Thursday.
Mr Kuleba was referring to war crimes committed by Russian forces before their withdrawal from around Kyiv, including the torture and execution of hundreds of civilians.
He said: "The battle for Donbas will remind you of the Second World War, with large operations manoeuvres, the involvement of thousands of tanks, armoured vehicles, planes, artillery. Russia has its plan, we have ours – and the outcome of this battle will be decided on the battlefield.”
"There is a significant battle yet ahead down in the south-east, down around the Donbas, Donetsk region where the Russians intend to mass forces and continue their assault," Gen Mark Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said. "I think it is an open question right now how this ends."
If the fight for Ukraine's eastern Donbas region does become like the Second World War, it may favour the Ukrainians.
Russian forces repositioning from the north and around Kyiv will find a mostly rural area, ideal for armoured warfare and the intelligent application of extreme violence. Ukrainian forces know the geography and will use it to their advantage.
Bridges have been destroyed, channelling any advancing Russian columns to fixed routes that favour counter-attacks.
The time taken to cover the distances involved will require the Russian air force to recommence operations in daylight – a boon to Ukrainian troops with shoulder-launched anti-aircraft missiles.
New weapons, gifted by the West, will be used to wear down Russia's attacking formations, long before they get into the close "contact battle" with the defenders.
Western officials said 29 of Moscow's original 125 battalion tactical groups have been rendered "not combat effective" because of the dogged Ukrainian resistance.
It means the fight to come in the east of the country could play to Ukraine's strengths if Kyiv's troops plan correctly. Ukraine will seek to use the 10 brigades dug deep in the Donbas as an anvil upon which to smash the Russian invaders.
Just as they have done fighting the Russians in the north, Ukraine will employ the Western doctrine of the "manoeuvrist approach".
This is more than just using movement on the battlefield. It describes a nimble military mind, an ability to use initiative instead of constantly relying on orders and a willingness to do the unexpected and take risks.
In the north, Ukraine's armed forces had the confidence to allow Russian tank columns to pass, choosing instead to attack the logistic tails first then pick off the stranded vehicles.
Rather than meeting Russian strength head-on, they applied devastating military force at critical points, achieving results disproportionate to the numbers of troops involved.
The open spaces of the Donbas, away from urban areas populated by civilians and where Russia will have extended lines of vulnerable logistic elements, are ideal for these tactics. The distances are vast.
And where to put their all-important logistic tail that has proved so vulnerable to the Ukrainian anti-tank teams moving nimbly across the battlefield to strike at times and places of their choosing?
In July 1943, the German army launched a major armoured offensive, Operation Citadel, against the Soviet Union near this area of eastern Europe. The Germans were tired and stretched, fighting at the end of long and vulnerable lines of logistics, but still rolled the dice and decided to attack.
They lost the battle, never meaningfully advanced again – and eventually lost the war.
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James Rothwell
Thu, 7 April 2022, 11:20 am·6-min read
A house in Severodonetsk, in the Donbas region, burns after being hit by a Russian missile - Fadel Senna/AFP via Getty Images
Britain and its Nato allies agreed on Thursday night to supply "new and heavier" weapons to Ukraine after Kyiv pleaded for fresh armaments in "days not weeks".
Liz Truss, the Foreign Secretary, said alliance counterparts met in Brussels to agree to help the defenders upgrade their "Soviet-era equipment to Nato standard".
Antony Blinken, US secretary of state, confirmed Washington was looking at "new systems" to send.
"We're not going to let anything stand in the way of getting Ukrainians what they need," he said.
"We are looking across the board right now, not only at what we have provided ... [but] whether there are additional systems that would make a difference."
The European Union also announced it was ready to release €500 million (£416 million) to fund more arms.
The pledges came after Ukraine's foreign minister said a looming battle against Russian forces in the east would be similar to Second World War-era combat.
As the Russian army prepared to launch a major offensive in the Donbas region, Dmytro Kuleba warned that Moscow would commit more atrocities against civilians unless Kyiv's troops were supported with Western artillery, jets and air defence systems.
"Either you help us now – and I’m speaking about days, not weeks – or your help will come too late and many people will die, many civilians will lose their homes, many villages will be destroyed, exactly because this help came too late," he said on Thursday.
Mr Kuleba was referring to war crimes committed by Russian forces before their withdrawal from around Kyiv, including the torture and execution of hundreds of civilians.
He said: "The battle for Donbas will remind you of the Second World War, with large operations manoeuvres, the involvement of thousands of tanks, armoured vehicles, planes, artillery. Russia has its plan, we have ours – and the outcome of this battle will be decided on the battlefield.”
"There is a significant battle yet ahead down in the south-east, down around the Donbas, Donetsk region where the Russians intend to mass forces and continue their assault," Gen Mark Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said. "I think it is an open question right now how this ends."
Russians’ change of tack could favour Ukraine
By Dominic Nicholls, Defence and Security EditorIf the fight for Ukraine's eastern Donbas region does become like the Second World War, it may favour the Ukrainians.
Russian forces repositioning from the north and around Kyiv will find a mostly rural area, ideal for armoured warfare and the intelligent application of extreme violence. Ukrainian forces know the geography and will use it to their advantage.
Bridges have been destroyed, channelling any advancing Russian columns to fixed routes that favour counter-attacks.
The time taken to cover the distances involved will require the Russian air force to recommence operations in daylight – a boon to Ukrainian troops with shoulder-launched anti-aircraft missiles.
New weapons, gifted by the West, will be used to wear down Russia's attacking formations, long before they get into the close "contact battle" with the defenders.
Western officials said 29 of Moscow's original 125 battalion tactical groups have been rendered "not combat effective" because of the dogged Ukrainian resistance.
It means the fight to come in the east of the country could play to Ukraine's strengths if Kyiv's troops plan correctly. Ukraine will seek to use the 10 brigades dug deep in the Donbas as an anvil upon which to smash the Russian invaders.
Just as they have done fighting the Russians in the north, Ukraine will employ the Western doctrine of the "manoeuvrist approach".
This is more than just using movement on the battlefield. It describes a nimble military mind, an ability to use initiative instead of constantly relying on orders and a willingness to do the unexpected and take risks.
In the north, Ukraine's armed forces had the confidence to allow Russian tank columns to pass, choosing instead to attack the logistic tails first then pick off the stranded vehicles.
Rather than meeting Russian strength head-on, they applied devastating military force at critical points, achieving results disproportionate to the numbers of troops involved.
The open spaces of the Donbas, away from urban areas populated by civilians and where Russia will have extended lines of vulnerable logistic elements, are ideal for these tactics. The distances are vast.
And where to put their all-important logistic tail that has proved so vulnerable to the Ukrainian anti-tank teams moving nimbly across the battlefield to strike at times and places of their choosing?
In July 1943, the German army launched a major armoured offensive, Operation Citadel, against the Soviet Union near this area of eastern Europe. The Germans were tired and stretched, fighting at the end of long and vulnerable lines of logistics, but still rolled the dice and decided to attack.
They lost the battle, never meaningfully advanced again – and eventually lost the war.
Donbas showdown will be like 'Second World War', as Nato pledges heavier weapons
Britain and its Nato allies agreed on Thursday night to supply "new and heavier" weapons to Ukraine after Kyiv pleaded for fresh armaments in "days not weeks".
That's ****ed up, dude. Just because Putin is a monster, it doesn't mean you have to be as well.
It's supposed to be a reliable poll, according to some journalists I saw on the news.
The only media in Russia is Kremlin propaganda. The Russian people have no idea what's going on.
I'd be happier if Israel stopped trying to straddle the fence. They have hardware, intel, and knowhow that could really help the Ukrainians. For now Israel is foolishly pretending they can have some influence over Russia, or that they can be eventually seen as an intermediary in negotiations.
More Russian war crimes. Dropping missiles on children on a train platform.
I cannot get enough (and Czechs appear to want the recognition) of the S-300s on their way,
Make em' bleed-they should not be allowed to sit out this war watching their fake news. The longer this lasts the more Ukraine civilians are deliberately murdered by Russia. If it makes you feel better, call it strategic bombing like the Allies did in WW2.
You need to chill on the hate to everyone who doesn't agree with your warped thoughts.
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Forget the missiles, just those vehicles alone are intimidating.
Finland Hit by Cyber Attack, Airspace Breach as NATO Bid Weighed
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...er-attack-airspace-breach-as-nato-bid-weighed
Russia apparently dumbfounded why countries keep wanting to join NATO.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...er-attack-airspace-breach-as-nato-bid-weighed
Russia apparently dumbfounded why countries keep wanting to join NATO.
Totally logical that the threat of attack would make them not want to protect themselves from attack.
My patience for Germany’s slow action is running out.
Assuming Ukraine, NATO, and others stay out of Russia, what does an endgame look like here? Putin's going to have to make up some reasons this was a strategic victory regardless of if Russia can hold on to territory in eastern Ukraine. If they do hold territory, I wonder if an increase in insurgency is expected from the Ukrainian population in that region which had been more supportive of Russia before February? Or can it be stabilized enough by Russian forces that we get basically a new Korean style armistice and DMZ to unofficially launch a new multilateral cold war? What does Putin tell Russians if Ukraine beats them all the way back to Russia? Just claim they got all the Nazis and reached an understanding with the denazified gov?
Also, Azov. It doesn't seem Russia has gotten to many of the actual neo-Nazis. Allah willing, Ukraine survives this as a functioning nominal liberal democratic republic. But the extremists within Azov will have a large new list of traumatized combat vets to try to recruit/radicalize. If/when the rebuilding gets political and corrupt, do Ukranians value their nominal republic enough to reject a fascist project that promises to reward the "patriots" (according to Azov) instead of first rewarding whoever has political connections?
Uhhhhhhh sir, this is a Wendy's....
The Senate passed the "Ukraine Lend Lease" bill....did the House go on a 2 week break without voting on it? Can't find anything on a House vote...If so, how is this not a major story?
The Senate unanimously passed major legislation late Wednesday to revive a World War II-era program allowing President Joe Biden to more efficiently send weapons and other supplies to Ukraine amid Russia’s bloody invasion.
Senators quickly rallied behind the proposal, known as Lend-Lease, as Ukraine’s military proved it could fend off Russian troops who have been shelling Ukrainian cities and towns since late February. The Lend-Lease program created during World War II was seen as a game-changer in the conflict, as it allowed the U.S. to quickly resupply the Allies without time-consuming procedural hurdles.
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/04/06/senate-unanimously-approves-lend-lease-00023668
The Senate unanimously passed major legislation late Wednesday to revive a World War II-era program allowing President Joe Biden to more efficiently send weapons and other supplies to Ukraine amid Russia’s bloody invasion.
Senators quickly rallied behind the proposal, known as Lend-Lease, as Ukraine’s military proved it could fend off Russian troops who have been shelling Ukrainian cities and towns since late February. The Lend-Lease program created during World War II was seen as a game-changer in the conflict, as it allowed the U.S. to quickly resupply the Allies without time-consuming procedural hurdles.
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/04/06/senate-unanimously-approves-lend-lease-00023668
I wouldn’t. They’re playing the middle. Russia owns Syria now. They’re not trying to create a conflict on their border.
I have absolutely nothing going on today for work. If they're paying me, I might as well be worrying about things.
If Syria or Iran got hypersonic missiles it would dramatically change things for Israel.
Creates demand for rubles, same way oil sales in dollars creates demand for dollars, increasing their purchasing power.
They expect to trade currencies so they can make other international trades with those currencies for goods.
Russia is conducting patrols in the Donetsk region and performing sorties with planes. The easing of the war in all regions indicates the calm before the storm. #UkraineRussianWar #Ukraine #Russia #SONDAKIKA
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They've been doing this for a couple weeks at least. I believe they've threatened a couple times with deadlines. Everyone, including Germany, has called their bluff on it to date.
Amazing what they can do with special effects these days - maybe this is a disinformation video? i.e. all those Ukranian videos are as fake as this one.
They're betting the Ruble rebounds in the future I think...it's worth a penny now. Next year if it's worth a nickel they make bank.
