If Trump was president safe to say you never see the Joint Statement on the U.S.-Ukraine Strategic Partnership in September of 2021.
Instead you have France and Germany pressuring Ukraine to accept Minsk II.
This might be a little tougher than Putin thought...
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Instead you have France and Germany pressuring Ukraine to accept Minsk II.
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The reason kremlinmole97 keeps bring up Yemen is equivocation. One of the main propaganda points Putin's troll farms push through social media is that whatever bad thing Russia is doing, the US did it first! So if you go back to the first dozens of pages of this thread, you'll see that kremlinmole97 keeps going back to Yemen again and again to justify Russia's actions in Ukraine. That's what the trollfarms were, and still are, pushing through rightwing and social media postings. It doesn't matter if this, like his repeatedly calling Ukraine's Euromaiden revolution a "Coup" is utterly false both factually and by definintion, the point is to sow doubts and "both sideism" among casual followers of the news through a firehose of falsehoods.
Kremlinmole97 thinks that if he keeps repeatedly dropping in his lies about what the US is doing in Yemen, and what the US did in Ukraine, some readers here will just accept it without question as it is not in the news because we had little to nothing to do with either situation. The Ukrainian and Yemeni people have agency, and Russia, Iran, Syria are far worst actors at undermining democracies and fomenting coups and insurrections around the world than Western democracies are.
FFS
Putin expected Turd to destabilize NATO. When that didn't happen, he needed a year to build up the invasion plan.
It isn't complicated.
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I put Seminole on ignore months ago. It's the best thing anyone could do in this thread. His only goal was to parrot Putin's lies. Anyone of you reading his words are wasting your brain.
Poland is seeking 90+ Apache attack helicopters.
Another great fail by Putin. He has unified Western Europe, and has the ex satellites of the USSR arming up.
https://www.foxnews.com/world/polan...ers-from-us-making-second-largest-fleet-world
Another great fail by Putin. He has unified Western Europe, and has the ex satellites of the USSR arming up.
https://www.foxnews.com/world/polan...ers-from-us-making-second-largest-fleet-world
I don't think anything justifies Russia's invasion of Ukraine.
I've explained Russia's motives invading Ukraine, but certain dolts mistake that for justification.
You act as if the U.S. doesn't try to overthrow governments all the time.
It's our signature foreign policy.
In 2016, the Washington Post published an article by a Boston College professor named Lindsay O’Rourke noting the United States had either toppled or attempted to topple other countries’ governments 72 times between 1947 and 1989. The list is an astonishing compendium of disasters.
Violent overthrow of a leader is called a coup.
If MAGA protestors cause Biden to flee for his life and Senate Republicans pass an 'impeachment' with less than the required majority of votes, would you consider it legal?
That's what happened in Ukraine.
Don't trust me. Look it up yourself and show us the vote total from the Verkhovna Rada's 'impeachment'.
Hell, I'll give you a link.
I asked you quote any lie I've said about Yemen.
You can't and you won't because I haven't.
"Failed Russian river crossing at #Charkiw . Probably the 3 armored personnel carriers were voluntarily declared to be swimming tanks, right?"
I have put a couple of comrades on ignore and it has made this thread even more enjoyable.
Holy non sequitur Batman.
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Would you say Trump signed off on moves that ultimately assisted or emboldened Russia's invasion?
What was Trump's initial reaction when the invasion began?
Kinda makes sense for Putin to invade after his Trump puppet couldn't fully orchestrate the coup.
Charlie Wilson's War on steroids, in all of the good ways.
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Oh man, #خاركيف is beautiful this time of year!
FWIW
"Local residents of the Polish city of Rzeszow recorded the movement of military equipment to the Ukrainian border "
"Local residents of the Polish city of Rzeszow recorded the movement of military equipment to the Ukrainian border "
LOL at Kremlinmole.....
Incredible. Russian/Putin hubris may really be its undoing. Not a novel story as history goes, but crazy to watch in real-time.
Fact remains…he waited over a year after Trump left.
Seems to me it would have much smarter to invade while his “stooge” was in office. A no brainer.
Joe green lighted putin with the minor incursion being ok comment.
I don’t agree with that…Putin was going to invade no matter the President. For whatever reason he decided it was time.
I think he was banking on NATO/EU disunity because he thought he had them by the balls with their oil/Lng reliance
I also think his intel/military miscalculated bigly in regards to the Ukraine military and he bought it
Unless he thought his stooge in office would enable a bloodless coup, based upon things like, say, extorting the President of Ukraine for political help.
Perhaps Putin gambled Trump was going to win a 2nd term....with his help (again)
