This might be a little tougher than Putin thought...
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You're right, but maybe Covid delayed the situation? Maybe all the preparations for the invasion weren't ready at the time. I can't imagine all that needed to happen economically in preparation for the incoming sanctions. Putin also probably wanted to see if his Ukrainian coup attempt would work.
If Putin invades before the American election or coup attempt it puts a huge dent in the chances for re-election or coup attempt as Trumps popularity was already low AF.
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It’s all speculation. Maybe Putin just believed their intel and thought Ukraine was a soft target. Maybe he just miscalculated big time.
Might be as simple as that
Putin also knew the animosity Turd had for Zelenske blaming him for the impeachment trial. Putin waited for a bloodless takeover and once Trump lost, the reality set in that Biden was a different animal.
If it was ever going to have a chance of success it had to happen before NATO membership.
After the September declarations from the WH Putin saw that window closing.
They pressed for a multi-party treaty to guarantee Ukrainian neutrality and were told to pound sand, so they pounded Ukraine instead.
Former Russian ambassador and current CIA Director cable from 2008:
Completely underestimated Ukrainian will and strength, and completely overestimated Russian capacity.
Aside from grinding forward in the Donbass under artillery superiority they've been in reverse everywhere since mid-March.
EU is still gonna get fooked in this deal.
Germans and French understood pushing Ukrainian membership for NATO was likely to end up with a war, and so they sought to avoid it.
Question is, do we assume the neocons were naïve about this outcome, or desired this outcome. After the coup I used to think the former, but after they immediately pressed again when they came back in power I can't help but think this is exactly what they wanted.
If you were among the PNAC crowd this has been the best possible outcome.
28th mech.brigade fights on Kherson direction. Looks like this is empty irrigations canal. Soldiers after some ATGM launch cryes at the end "I hit this motherf...r!!!! "
The intel group was wrong on pro russia sentiment. Not sure what they thought of ukraine military but i know a person involved in training and planning their defense and the uk military was pretty stout. Poland and romania are top level.
I think we are going to see a lot of stories about dead or imprisoned officers soon enough. Putin is a megalomaniacal idiot, but he was also fed rosy information. I also think nobody in Russia knew just how rotten with corruption their military has become, and how grievously their readiness and operational capacity had been affected.
Gen. Mark Milley says the Ukrainians are making good use of the HIMARS that we have provided.
Good. Let's send them more. They can't get there fast enough from the way things look.
https://www.reuters.com/world/ukrai...argets-with-himars-us-top-general-2022-09-08/
Good. Let's send them more. They can't get there fast enough from the way things look.
https://www.reuters.com/world/ukrai...argets-with-himars-us-top-general-2022-09-08/
If they captured him, it’s incredible.
Can't really be sure of the mole on his face, but unless it is just horrible jpg artifacting the ear looks different. At the bottom, above the lobe, the captured guys ear seems smooth where the clearerer pic of the general has a ridge.
I hope it is the general alleged, just to see how Moscow tries to spin it.
This is incredible news if it is confirmed. Throughout the war we've been told about high ranking officers having to be closer to the lines than you'd see in Western armies. Well, if true this guy was pinched off behind Ukrainian lines.
Just how far have the lines moved, and how fast are the Ukrainians moving them? If this is in fact a Lt. General, and he was trying to escape by hiding his identity, the Russians must be near collapsing, at least in some pockets.
that can be explained by low res photo, but the nose on the captured is completely different. Downturned/beak-ish on the gen. Not so on the prisoner.Can't really be sure of the mole on his face, but unless it is just horrible jpg artifacting the ear looks different. At the bottom, above the lobe, the captured guys ear seems smooth where the clearerer pic of the general has a ridge.
I hope it is the general alleged, just to see how Moscow tries to spin it.
"Forces
"Pierced from the Russian front in the region of #Kharkov ! 2000 to 4000 Ukrainian soldiers broke through the front near Kharkov! Russian forces are withdrawing for the time being"
"9/9) Ukrainian forces conduct a so far successful counter-offensive towards #Kharkiv . With, according to observers, "support from the local population", the armed forces advanced nearly 50 km in just 3 days. (via #Ukraine War Map)"
"9/9) Ukrainian forces conduct a so far successful counter-offensive towards #Kharkiv . With, according to observers, "support from the local population", the armed forces advanced nearly 50 km in just 3 days. (via #Ukraine War Map)"
These (auf1 155) are actually self propelled howitzers. Could not find verification of this donation but it may have just been announced.
"The #France will soon deliver AUF1 155 tanks, AMX 10RC armored vehicles and TRF1 guns to Ukraine! The rest of the abandoned AMX30s could also be given away."
"The #France will soon deliver AUF1 155 tanks, AMX 10RC armored vehicles and TRF1 guns to Ukraine! The rest of the abandoned AMX30s could also be given away."
Russia still using banned munitions?
I imagine the first thing they do is have experts check it for boobytraps.
"The destroyed complex of REE Moskva-1 in temporarily occupied Vasylivka, Zaporizhzhia region. We train in mini-Moscow to destroy the big one)"
More captured munitions.
"recognizing that the Russian army #Russia had many real weapons, they withdrew and left their weapons everywhere. The number of clips on the internet must be more than 10 stores. This is just a counterattack in a small city."
"recognizing that the Russian army #Russia had many real weapons, they withdrew and left their weapons everywhere. The number of clips on the internet must be more than 10 stores. This is just a counterattack in a small city."
Let’s go - so much good news the past couple of pages!
Some of the videos look like WWII videos of residents coming out to greet the soldiers who freed them from Nazi occupiers, ironically.
Damn allergies are kicking up this morning…
